i think i've finally lost all interest in men.

[Trouty]

i do that too.
if i'm going out clubbing i wear a wedding ring. it means i can escape most of the pestering.
yes, there's still a perception that single women would only go somewhere that sells booze if they're looking for a cheap hookup.

Clubbing = not the best place to meet Mr. Right (or even Mr. Nearly Right). The wedding ring is likely to put a lot of decent guys off i.e. the one's who respect another man's marriage

 

[dolfette]

Clubbing = not the best place to meet Mr. Right (or even Mr. Nearly Right). The wedding ring is likely to put a lot of decent guys off i.e. the one's who respect another man's marriage

yes, there's you missing the point entirely.

i'm not there to meet men at all.
i want to put off all the men.

clubbing = dancing and socialising with my friends.

sheesh

 

[Trouty]

yes, there's you missing the point entirely.

i'm not there to meet men at all.
i want to put off all the men.

clubbing = dancing and socialising with my friends.

sheesh

Unless you go to some lesbian club you're going to 'meet' men whether you want to or not.

double sheeeeeeeesh

 

[dolfette]

who respect another man's marriage

also, congrats on that one.
it's not MY hypothetical marriage. no, it's the man's.

 

[D_Sparroe Spongecaques]

Clubbing = not the best place to meet Mr. Right (or even Mr. Nearly Right). The wedding ring is likely to put a lot of decent guys off i.e. the one's who respect another man's marriage

That's the whole point of her wearing the ring...because she doesnt want any guy hitting on her at all,never mind Mr.Right or even Mr Right Now...she has a bf as she states in the OP.

The point Dolfette is tring to make is.....that just because she isnt out with a man on her arm doesnt mean she isnt a complete person....as many guys and well as women tend to think.

 

[Trouty]

That's the whole point of her wearing the ring...because she doesnt want any guy hitting on her at all,never mind Mr.Right or even Mr Right Now...she has a bf as she states in the OP.

The point Dolfette is tring to make is.....that just because she isnt out with a man on her arm doesnt mean she isnt a complete person....as many guys and well as women tend to think.

My misunderstanding. FWIW I think she's a complete person - a complete nutter! (only kidding :biggrin1

 

[D_Sparroe Spongecaques]

Unless you go to some lesbian club you're going to 'meet' men whether you want to or not.

double sheeeeeeeesh

Unless a guy takes the hint that just because a female is out on the town with her female friends for a drink and a dance and that she isnt wanting attention from guys then the better.It is allowed you know...she is a grown up girl:tongue:

Looking is one thing but hitting on her is something else

WTF should she go to a 'lesbian club' as you so quaintly put it?



Triple sheeeeeeeeeeeesh

 

[dolfette]

Unless you go to some lesbian club you're going to 'meet' men whether you want to or not.

double sheeeeeeeesh

yes, that's exactly what i mean by this,

i do that too.
if i'm going out clubbing i wear a wedding ring. it means i can escape most of the pestering.
yes, there's still a perception that single women would only go somewhere that sells booze if they're looking for a cheap hookup.

yes, i will be around men.
that doesn't mean i'm there to meet men.
some women like to leave the house just for fun.

 

[Trouty]

also, congrats on that one.
it's not MY hypothetical marriage. no, it's the man's.

Hmmmm.... I did make a bit of a boob with that one. Must be my misogynistic tendencies coming to the surface again :redface:

 

[dolfette]

Unless a guy takes the hint that just because a female is out on the town with her female friends for a drink and a dance and that she isnt wanting attention from guys then the better.It is allowed you know...she is a grown up girl:tongue:

Looking is one thing but hitting on her is something else

WTF should she go to a 'lesbian club' as you so quaintly put it?

Triple sheeeeeeeeeeeesh

i'm not going to be pissed off if a guy tries to chat me up,
as long as he's ok with failing at that.
i'm polite in my rejection.

the problem is that they usually aren't ok with it.
and that they often skip the chatting up in favour of trying to dry hump you on the dance floor...which in legal terms borders on assault.

if a woman isn't looking at you, isn't smiling at you, isn't even acknowledging you exist then the chances are that she's really not interested.

 

[dolfette]

Hmmmm.... I did make a bit of a boob with that one. Must be my misogynistic tendencies coming to the surface again :redface:

you are forgiven.

just this once, because it's a sunny day and i'm in a good mood.

 

[D_Sparroe Spongecaques]

i'm not going to be pissed off if a guy tries to chat me up,
as long as he's ok with failing at that.
i'm polite in my rejection.

the problem is that they usually aren't ok with it.
and that they often skip the chatting up in favour of trying to dry hump you on the dance floor...which in legal terms borders on assault.

if a woman isn't looking at you, isn't smiling at you, isn't even acknowledging you exist then the chances are that she's really not interested.

My sentiments exactly....and wear something that shows the teeeeeeensiet bit of cleavage?? Many guys think that give the go ahead for a grope and a squeeze.


P.S..I sound like a man hater LOL!!

 

[dolfette]

My sentiments exactly....and wear something that shows the teeeeeeensiet bit of cleavage?? Many guys think that give the go ahead for a grope and a squeeze.


P.S..I sound like a man hater LOL!!

girly, showing your ankles is interpreted as an invitation to grope by some men.
i've tried going out in voluminous sweaters & jeans with nothing but my face & hands on show. it doesn't stop the guys who think we should be at home knitting if we're not looking for sex.

there are lots of decent guys out there though.
...it's just that i don't really want them.

 

[B_crackoff]

if a woman isn't looking at you, isn't smiling at you, isn't even acknowledging you exist then the chances are that she's really not interested.

Doesn't mean she is either!:wink:

It's a 2 way street. Men have so much social pressure as well to settle down too, & women put an inordinate amount of stock in marriage, & pressurize guys into it because they want to feel secure.

I've had several relationships go tits up because I wouldn't marry - too easy to enter ,& a nightmare to leave.

A lot of married people put social pressure on you, I believe, because they want you to be as miserable as them!

The thing is, Dolfette, people who know you know if you're happy or not, & possibly genuinely want to see you settled & in bliss. Have you tried not seeing any man at all for a longer period of time?

I know lots of women who haven't dated for 2 years or more. Oddly enough none of them have kids, so it's not rare.

 

[wseattle]

For all those that hate men and themselves we get it now please leave we are tired of hearing you.

 

[invisibleman]

...y'know, i think it's more socially acceptable for a man to say that the opposite sex are more trouble that they're worth and give them up for porn and kleenex. and people assume that a woman needs a made in order to be complete. i mean, i have a bf and i still get that, ''no wonder you can't get a man!' response from the misogynists here.

so the topic up for discussion is,
the social pressure to get a man and the assumption we're incomplete without one.

Well, you don't have to have a man to feel complete...just have a variety of men to handle what is necessary.

In life-- there aren't any guarantees. If you ever find someone that is a keeper, cherish them like gold.

 

[D_Sparroe Spongecaques]

Doesn't mean she is either!:wink:

It's a 2 way street. Men have so much social pressure as well to settle down too, & women put an inordinate amount of stock in marriage, & pressurize guys into it because they want to feel secure.

I've had several relationships go tits up because I wouldn't marry - too easy to enter ,& a nightmare to leave.

A lot of married people put social pressure on you, I believe, because they want you to be as miserable as them!

The thing is, Dolfette, people who know you know if you're happy or not, & possibly genuinely want to see you settled & in bliss. Have you tried not seeing any man at all for a longer period of time?

I know lots of women who haven't dated for 2 years or more. Oddly enough none of them have kids, so it's not rare.

I know this wasnt directed at me but i'll chip in anyway....i know alot of women who have pressured guys into settling down,marrying etc etc so you're quite correct it is a 2 way street ......however.....the topic wasnt about that.

Maybe if i hadnt have dated when i did and then went on to get married i might not have ended up with my 6 fabalicious children....so not all bad eh!

For all those that hate men and themselves we get it now please leave we are tired of hearing you.

On the womens issues section of the forum......perish the thought..and a 'man' makes a crass comment like that.......and folk wonder why some women are men haters:wink:

 

[dolfette]

Doesn't mean she is either!:wink:

It's a 2 way street. Men have so much social pressure as well to settle down too, & women put an inordinate amount of stock in marriage, & pressurise guys into it because they want to feel secure.

I've had several relationships go tits up because I wouldn't marry - too easy to enter ,& a nightmare to leave.

A lot of married people put social pressure on you, I believe, because they want you to be as miserable as them!

The thing is, Dolfette, people who know you know if you're happy or not, & possibly genuinely want to see you settled & in bliss. Have you tried not seeing any man at all for a longer period of time?

I know lots of women who haven't dated for 2 years or more. Oddly enough none of them have kids, so it's not rare.

gawd! i hated the pressure.
the ex was forever trying to get me up the aisle,
and his entire family wanted it too.
but marriage *shudder* that's some scary shit!

doll, after i split with the ex i was celibate & without for three years. that's a pretty long time by most standards, but i just wanted to spend time doing what i want to do. i would politely accept numbers which i never intended to call...and i think i was happier.

i've only had two boyfriends since i stepped out of celibacy.

people who know me?
well the women who can't live without a man don't get it,
and men in general just don't get it.
my parents certainly don't get it at all!
i think you give people credit for being more rational than they are.

For all those that hate men and themselves we get it now please leave we are tired of hearing you.

i'm very sorry that you have issues, but this forum is only for issues belonging to women. i suggest you petition for a ''men's issues'' forum on the site if you want to whine too.
if you don't like reading women's issues you could always...well...not read women's issues.

Well, you don't have to have a man to feel complete...just have a variety of men to handle what is necessary.

In life-- there aren't any guarantees. If you ever find someone that is a keeper, cherish them like gold.

but what defines a keeper? i would say that, if i'm honest, most of my boyfriends have been keepers. i just didn't want to keep them though.

but you've sort of hit the crux...what is necessary?

 

[ZOS23xy]

Is it really such a big deal anymore?

In a way yes. I did not get married until I was in my mid thirties, because I knew I was immature and knew I had to resolve several issues before plunging into the maelstrom of human emotion and sexuality.

I spent a lot of time reading and drawing and writing and dating. And working my right hand. By the time I was ready for marriage I was not in denial about who I was marrying, and it wasn't hormones.

Spend too much time alone, and you get asked "You can't get along with anyone" or "are you gay"...

A women gets asked the same, but people began lining up prospects for here--friends who are the human equivalent of leftovers .

So, yes, it is a big deal.

 

[dolfette]

For all those that hate men and themselves we get it now please leave we are tired of hearing you.

actually, that's another good one.

if you don't want sex or relationships then you must be a man hater.