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chicagosam said:
You got yourself into this. No one did this to you. It was an avoidable situation. Face up to your mistakes. You are going to compound this by running. Do the right thing, get it over with, and then get on with your life.

Heather,

I echo precisely what chicagosam says.

This business will haunt you one way or another if you don't deal with it head-on.

As he says; "Do the right thing, get it over with, and then get on with it".

That's really sound advice.
 

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Heather LouAnna said:
1. Without telling me that I'm stupid, irresponsible, or immature for considering this, what is your opinion on this entire topic?
2. Do you think this shit would follow me if I go to Colorado to the point where it'd interfere with me, pretty much, starting over like it never happened?
3. I wont need to get a new one right away, but do you think this will effect my trying to get a driver's license in Colorado when the time comes?
4. Anything you'd like to add, please do so.

1. On the entire topic? I think it's a good topic, it has engaged people's attention, led to some good, informative points being made, and raised some difficult issues in my mind.

My first impression is that barring you from your chosen field due to a malum prohibitum offense is pretty draconian. My sense of fairness is offended. I see no problem with the fine, the counselling, the community service, etc. Impaired driving is a big deal. But how does it affect your work (particularly because this was a first offense)? It's not like you were molesting children.

On that basis, I don't have a problem with you changing jurisdictions - provided that this will solve your employment problem. And from what previous responses have stated, it may not. Make sure.

2. Not sure. It might be a good idea to contact prospective employers before moving. It makes more sense to move with a job lined up, as opposed to being in a state of limbo.

3. No idea.

4. Provided that you've learned your lesson about driving impaired - and from what I'm reading, it sounds like you have - come to Canada! :biggrin1:
 

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Pichulon made some good points. (By the way, some states actually make a distinction between DUI and DWI... "under the influence" is below legal intoxication, but still illegal; "while intoxicated" is at or above the legal limit.)

I hate to break it to you like this, but in your list, you mentioned a few mandatory weekends in jail, court-ordered AA and MADD meetings, plus probation (you didn't mention if it is supervised or unsupervised). With these requirements hanging over you, if you skip out, you will likely become a fugitive felon. And yes, the fine state of Colorado WILL cooperate with the long arm of the law in Texas, and yes, they will pursue. You also mentioned that your drivers license is still good for a while - but keep in mind, every state in the union has a limitation on the length of time you may be resident without changing your license, and I think for most states, it is 3 months or 6 months. But most importantly, almost anything you have to do to set up residence in another state will require your social security number. Bank accounts, utilities, drivers license, it's everywhere... and you ARE in the databases.

My advice - do NOT flee to another state, without obtaining court permission. It really sticks in my craw to say that, but I only say it to hopefully prevent you from getting into some really SERIOUS trouble.
 

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I'd like to add that I didn't drink often before, and haven't for the past year because they instructed me not to after this incident. As I said, I have worked with children for the past five years in a psychological field; I have been a youth counselor, a daycare teacher, and a mental health worker where I was exposed to accutely mentally disturbed (very violent) children...and I'm fully aware of the effects that drug use has on society. Technically speaking, I am not an alcoholic, as the state would like for me to believe, but this incident involves drinking and has created problems for me. So by definition, I have a "drinking problem."

Many of you are telling me to get a good lawyer: trust to know that I do have a good lawyer. I had no idea I could refuse a field sobriety test. I had no idea I could refuse to blow into a breathalizer. This is my first DWI offense, but despite everything that my attorney can argue in my defense, I blew a .2223. (.08 is the legal limit and anything .4 or higher is where alcohol poisoning begins.) The long list of shit that I provided is the plea bargain and if I went before a judge or jury they would most likely tack on more years of probation.

The main problem is that this incident has put my life on pause for the next three years. I cannot work in the field that I am (I say this without blinking) overqualified in and I'm not experience in anything else. In order to pay these fines, I must work, and in order to work I must start over completely and find entry level positions.

The highest paying job, and the easiest, I could find right now is a position as a cocktail waitress at a gentleman's club. I've been there for two weeks now, serving the same poison that fucked up my life, albeit making good money.


I can tell that some of you did not read what I posted in it's entirety, but thankyou to those who did and replied without flippantly telling me something that isn't true: i.e. I am not mad at Texas. lmao I'm not mad at anyone over this. I don't really get angry.

After working in a place for several years where a child will punch you in the face (oh, yes, I've been punched many a time by a retarded child) for near nothing, I don't get angry or upset over stressful situations.

Again, thankyou for your opinions.
 

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Heather LouAnna said:
1. Without telling me that I'm stupid, irresponsible, or immature for considering this, what is your opinion on this entire topic?
I'm sorry all this shit happened to you and hope it works out for the best. From what you're saying it sounds like leaving the state is by far your best option. Why are you even considering not doing so?
Heather LouAnna said:
2. Do you think this shit would follow me if I go to Colorado to the point where it'd interfere with me, pretty much, starting over like it never happened?
I really have no idea, but it sounds like it wouldn't.
Heather LouAnna said:
3. I wont need to get a new one right away, but do you think this will effect my trying to get a driver's license in Colorado when the time comes?
Again, I'm not well-informed on this subject, but I doubt it.
Heather LouAnna said:
4. Anything you'd like to add, please do so.
You're hawt. Wanna fuck?
 

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After reading a bunch of the responses, it sounds like you were mistaken about how easy it would be to start your life over in another state. Therefore I guess my opinion wrt what you should do has changed.

Bottom line: Find out more about your options. Don't make a decision like this without acquiring as much information as you possibly can. No doubt you already know this shit, but it can't hurt to hear it.
 

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I know I've already replied to this Heather, but another thought occurred to me. You work in education so you should be able to take this on board:

DUI was taking a big risk. You got caught. Your response to your punishment is what? You start thinking about taking another big risk (ie. running away). Maybe you are a compulsive risk taker. ie. you have an over optimistic view of your chances, or perhaps you are attracted by the excitement of risk taking. I'm not sure which it is, but I think you should give serious thought to making the most of whatever counselling you are offered at this time, and/or seek some specialist therapy. It might be that you can find a way to rein in this risk taking urge.

If you find it hard to believe you're a serious risk taker, bear in mind that a lot of us, most of us, would not have considered running in your situation, nor would we have taken the risk of drinking and driving in the first place. Why did you?
 

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Heather LouAnna said:
I had no idea I could refuse a field sobriety test. I had no idea I could refuse to blow into a breathalizer. This is my first DWI offense, but despite everything that my attorney can argue in my defense, I blew a .2223.
In California, radio ads from a prominent attorney specializing in drunk driving stress that you can decline to take a breathalyzer test, but that is not always the case.

I was pulled over in a random drunk check. I passed the dexterity tests and declined the breathalyzer (they spent a good 2-3 minutes trying to convince me to take the test). The officers told me that, if I had failed the dexterity tests, I could have been arrested without the breath test. After that, I would have been given both breath & blood tests and I could not have refused.

If your blood alcohol was really over 0.2, it is unlikely you could have passed the dexterity tests (standing on one foot for 30 seconds, etc.), so you would have been arrested anyway and would have been forced to provide breath and blood alcohol readings. So, your lack of knowledge is unlikely to have contributed to your current state of affairs.
 

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You may reiterate this over and over, that you have seen the facts already, and that you will face a long time in Texas doing something you shouldn't be doing, but running is out of the question.

If you are truly trying to avoid living a life you do not want. Then I don't see how running will make it easier for you. They will find you, this is not a guess, and when they do, it won't be a couple of years you will lose, but maybe the rest of your working career.

Do the time, fix the problem, and then try your hardest to prove to the professionals in your field that you don't have a problem and are able to look after the kids.

It won't be easy, but it is possible. And if you love doing what you do, then you will get back in the professional loop eventually.
 

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You had to drink a LOT of alcohol to blow a .2223 on the breathalyzer. You didn't accidentally go one drink over the line. You kept drinking WAY past the point of being legally drunk. You were wasted. You got behind the wheel of an automobile and drove, thereby endangering your own life and the lives of other drivers on the road. If you had any passengers, you put them in peril as well. You're lucky you didn't die and take somebody else out with you. You got caught, and unless you're a really special case it's probably not the only time you've driven while you were drunk. You're lucky the judge had a heart and allowed you other options than jail time. I say that given the seriousness of what you've done, your punishment, while it's severe, is considerably lighter than what could have been imposed.

You're 23. I know it's a pisser, but maybe you needed a wakeup call. Go to AA. Get sober and get recovery. They aren't the same thing, and you could probably use both. Experienced AA members, aside from being able to help keep you from getting into more trouble with drink in the future, will know the system well enough to help you wend your way through your punishment.

My opinion? Stay in Texas and take your lumps. You should never drink and drive again as long as you live, and neither should anybody else. If you do and you get caught again, I hope they throw the book at you.
 

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Look on the bright side you didn't kill anyone else while DRUNK Driving and you didn't get yourself paralyzed.

Deal with it. Yes when I was younger I drove buzzed twice, once coming home from a company X-mas party and the other time from a house party where I drank a lot of beer. I may have been technically drunk.

But you were SLOSHED and you deserve everything you get.

You could have refused the test but in my state I believe you go right to jail and lose your license. Probably worse than taking the test.

If you are an alcoholic please get help, and never drive drunk again.

It's only money and inconvenience that you have to deal with. If you want to drink and drive move to Europe. Because we don't want you here and no other state wants you there. Stay drunk driving in Texas it's a big state.

You want sympathy here it is ...I don't think you should be killed, you should just be caned, or sent to Iraq. Better yet why not join the military.

Shame on you, a .22 in NJ that is almost 4 times the legal limit.
 

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Heather LouAnna said:
The following post will probably cause many people here to view me very differently, but I don't give a shit..


You DON't give a SHIT? That's your problem. I'm not saying you should kill yourself, but it may save a life. I would say what a low-life fucking scumbag you are, but I'm too much of a nice guy to say that.
 

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HickBoy said:
You had to drink a LOT of alcohol to blow a .2223 on the breathalyzer. You didn't accidentally go one drink over the line. You kept drinking WAY past the point of being legally drunk. You were wasted. You got behind the wheel of an automobile and drove, thereby endangering your own life and the lives of other drivers on the road. If you had any passengers, you put them in peril as well.

It was the tequila shots that my friend bought me that sent me over the edge. When I too the fiel sobreity test, my friend (who had been following me in another car) said that I did perfectly on everything until they asked me to walk in a straight line. I did not received the breathalizer until after I was in jail, and after I was allowed to sit for several hours, which initially caused the alcohol in my stomach to be processed through my system, thereby causing my BAC to be higher. I was a little drunk behind the wheel, but my BAC certainly wasn't that high when I was driving. The police purposefully waited for my BAC to rise.

Riven650 said:
seek some specialist therapy.

Working in the psychological field, I've more information on this topic that you can imagine. lol At the time when I got this DWI, I was working at a mental hospital, getting beaten up daily, sometimes several times a day. Literally getting beat up. I've been going to a therapist since before I can remember. Therapy is not what I need.

I wouldn't say I'm a risk taker, but there's certainly nothing boring about my life. The things I choose to do and the people I keep around me simulate tv. I've been told this by several people.

mem0101 said:
You DON't give a SHIT? That's your problem. I'm not saying you should kill yourself, but it may save a life. I would say what a low-life fucking scumbag you are, but I'm too much of a nice guy to say that.

LMAO....omg...That's....that's awesome. Who pissed in your cheerios, love?



Anyway...thanks for all the advice I've received here. I' appreciate each of your replies.
 

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Heather LouAnna said:
It was the tequila shots that my friend bought me that sent me over the edge. When I too the fiel sobreity test, my friend (who had been following me in another car) said that I did perfectly on everything until they asked me to walk in a straight line. I did not received the breathalizer until after I was in jail, and after I was allowed to sit for several hours, which initially caused the alcohol in my stomach to be processed through my system, thereby causing my BAC to be higher. I was a little drunk behind the wheel, but my BAC certainly wasn't that high when I was driving. The police purposefully waited for my BAC to rise.



Working in the psychological field, I've more information on this topic that you can imagine. lol At the time when I got this DWI, I was working at a mental hospital, getting beaten up daily, sometimes several times a day. Literally getting beat up. I've been going to a therapist since before I can remember. Therapy is not what I need.

I wouldn't say I'm a risk taker, but there's certainly nothing boring about my life. The things I choose to do and the people I keep around me simulate tv. I've been told this by several people.



LMAO....omg...That's....that's awesome. Who pissed in your cheerios, love?



Anyway...thanks for all the advice I've received here. I' appreciate each of your replies.

TBFTGOGGI
 

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If I might express a preference - if you skip out to another area, kindly make it someplace other than Boulder. I have a sister who works in Boulder. Sharing the roads with someone who doesn't consider herself a "risk taker" even though she drives with those astronomical BACs is something Boulder commuters can surely do without.
 

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Heather LouAnna said:
1. Without telling me that I'm stupid, irresponsible, or immature for considering this, what is your opinion on this entire topic?
2. Do you think this shit would follow me if I go to Colorado to the point where it'd interfere with me, pretty much, starting over like it never happened?
3. I wont need to get a new one right away, but do you think this will effect my trying to get a driver's license in Colorado when the time comes?
4. Anything you'd like to add, please do so.
I spend a lot of time in traffic court so I feel like I should have more to add here, but I don't have much experience dealing with DUIs.. I never drink and drive I just get stopped all the time because my car is shiny. Personally I'm very much looking forward to moving out of the country soon, traffic laws are overall much more sensible in most parts of Europe and my driving record won't follow me over there. Sounds like you're in more trouble than I was ever in, even though my insurance rates would be higher if I had any. I'd advise talking to a lawyer in Colorado about this, as laws regulating traffic and DUI violations are handled on the state, not federal level, and therefore vary a lot from state to state and even county to county. The way the court system works in each place is different, too. Listening to random people's advice from LPSG probably isn't the best idea, I'd talk to someone who really knows what they're talking about.
 

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just echoing what others have said, by running, you'll be delaying the inevitable, it will catch up to you and be worse in the long run.

own up to it, face it. otherwise you won't learn from your mistakes, you continue to make the same mistakes and make all new ones

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well you could just kill yourself.

whoops, i'm sorry. for some arbitrary reason i guess we're suposed to be somewhat serious on this semi-anonymous medium.

sorry, i can't do it.

you sound hot.​