If A Guy Who Identifies As Str8 Enjoys Sucking Or Riding Cock, Do U Actually Consider Him To B Str8?

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Do you think a guy can actually be straight if he enjoys sucking or riding dick? Or do you think he must be a bit bi? I think a guy can be mostly straight and still like cock, but they’re definitely not completely straight.

I can’t see myself ever eating out or fucking a pussy, unless it were for a ton of money maybe. I just don’t find pussy attractive or arousing. So if a guy who identifies as gay also enjoys eating out or fucking pussy, I would consider him to be less gay than me. Likewise, I think a guy who identifies as straight but enjoys cock is less straight than a guy who has no interest in cock.

Sexuality is a spectrum with many shades of gray. It is also possible to fall on either end of a spectrum. Some men are definitely 100% straight and have no interest in guys or cock, and some men are definitely 100% gay and have no interest in women, pussy or tits.

But how can people claim that a man is still completely straight even though he enjoys cock, or that a man is still completely gay even though he enjoys pussy? I’ve seen quite a few people say this and get quite defensive about it, and it boggles my mind. Wouldn’t those people actually be some shade of gray?
 

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Do you think a guy can actually be straight if he enjoys sucking or riding dick? Or do you think he must be a bit bi? I think a guy can be mostly straight and still like cock, but they’re definitely not completely straight.

I can’t see myself ever eating out or fucking a pussy, unless it were for a ton of money maybe. I just don’t find pussy attractive or arousing. So if a guy who identifies as gay also enjoys eating out or fucking pussy, I would consider him to be less gay than me. Likewise, I think a guy who identifies as straight but enjoys cock is less straight than a guy who has no interest in cock.

Sexuality is a spectrum with many shades of gray. It is also possible to fall on either end of a spectrum. Some men are definitely 100% straight and have no interest in guys or cock, and some men are definitely 100% gay and have no interest in women, pussy or tits.

But how can people claim that a man is still completely straight even though he enjoys cock, or that a man is still completely gay even though he enjoys pussy? I’ve seen quite a few people say this and get quite defensive about it, and it boggles my mind. Wouldn’t those people actually be some shade of gray?

I definitely agree with you that sexuality is a spectrum. But I would challenge your question a bit.

I’m not a huge fan of labels, and I’m a firm believer in letting people identify however they want. It’s true that if a guy is regularly enjoying other guys’ dicks, there’s clearly something going on there. But it’s up to him to decide what it means.

In my own case, if you’d asked me at age 20 what I was, I would’ve said straight. I wouldn’t have even thought twice about it: I’d been with girls, and there hadn’t been anything weird about it, so I assumed that was that. To be honest, I probably would’ve taken offense that anyone might possibly think I was gay. Granted, I was secretly watching boy-on-boy stuff online, but nobody else knew about that, and hey... everybody’s got a guilty pleasure, right?

Eventually of course I admitted I liked guys. But it wasn’t till years later, when I realized I had no real desire to ever be with a girl again, that I fully saw myself as gay. In retrospect, I’d been gay all along, but I’d thoroughly convinced myself otherwise. And I was lucky: I had supportive friends and family, so the real barrier was admitting it to myself.

I guess what I’m trying to say is: yes, if a guy likes having sex with other guys, then that’s definitely some shade of gray. But I also agree if he wants to call himself straight, let him. Whether he’s in denial or not— maybe he just has different views on sexuality— it’s up to him to figure out....
 

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I definitely agree with you that sexuality is a spectrum. But I would challenge your question a bit.

I’m not a huge fan of labels, and I’m a firm believer in letting people identify however they want. It’s true that if a guy is regularly enjoying other guys’ dicks, there’s clearly something going on there. But it’s up to him to decide what it means.

In my own case, if you’d asked me at age 20 what I was, I would’ve said straight. I wouldn’t have even thought twice about it: I’d been with girls, and there hadn’t been anything weird about it, so I assumed that was that. To be honest, I probably would’ve taken offense that anyone might possibly think I was gay. Granted, I was secretly watching boy-on-boy stuff online, but nobody else knew about that, and hey... everybody’s got a guilty pleasure, right?

Eventually of course I admitted I liked guys. But it wasn’t till years later, when I realized I had no real desire to ever be with a girl again, that I fully saw myself as gay. In retrospect, I’d been gay all along, but I’d thoroughly convinced myself otherwise. And I was lucky: I had supportive friends and family, so the real barrier was admitting it to myself.

I guess what I’m trying to say is: yes, if a guy likes having sex with other guys, then that’s definitely some shade of gray. But I also agree if he wants to call himself straight, let him. Whether he’s in denial or not— maybe he just has different views on sexuality— it’s up to him to figure out....
Did you enjoy fucking and eating out pussy when you were with girls? Or was it something that you felt you had to do and you were just going through the motions?
 
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Did you enjoy fucking and eating out pussy when you were with girls? Or was it something that you felt you had to do and you were just going through the motions?

I did enjoy fucking, yes, though part of that was that I didn’t know any better. (Knowing what I know now, a man’s ass feels so much better to me than any pussy!) Oral took some getting used to, and I did it mainly for the girl’s pleasure... and selfishly because it would increase my chances of getting a blowjob. (Here too, I love sucking a guy— or eating him— way more than eating a girl!)

If I’m being honest with myself, I thought about guys more than once, even when I was in the act with a girl. But I never would’ve admitted it at the time. Not to mention that I’d never actually been with a guy at that point, so I didn’t fully know what I was missing. Girls actually used to be surprised at how much I would cum (or at least they claimed to be surprised) though they also complimented me on how respectful I was, since I wasn’t hitting on them 24/7.

Once I did start sleeping with guys, I never went back. So in that sense, I wasn’t one of those guys you were describing, who fucks dudes yet still calls himself straight. But like I said before, it did take me a long time to call myself gay, as silly as it sounds today....
 
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But how can people claim that a man is still completely straight even though he enjoys cock, or that a man is still completely gay even though he enjoys pussy? I’ve seen quite a few people say this and get quite defensive about it, and it boggles my mind. Wouldn’t those people actually be some shade of gray?


No one is claiming anything. It is how people identify with their sexuality.

This topic has been brought up in much longer, and heated threads. Does the exact same conversation need to happen again? If you don't understand someone's sexual identity, you don't have to. You also don't have to keep making assertions that people need to be this, this, and this, with labels of your choosing.

Do you want to know why people get defensive? Because people don't listen. You can have a 20 page thread, with a couple of dozen separate people telling their life stories, and people still won't get it. Why? Because they are unwilling to understand what someone else is communicating, again, and again.

So there is a level of frustration and defensiveness by the people who are ..slowly..taking..their..time.. to explain the exact same thing to the same people, who aren't here to understand. They are just here to make an assertion, and tell everyone else they are wrong, or in denial. Stop it.

From my own personal history: it took me a while to wrap my head around transgendered persons. Like, a long time. But, while I thought about it, and thought some more, I didn't corner people and tell them that they were wrong, or in denial, or..whatever. It was my process to understand; not their job to repeat themselves to me until I was satisfied with the answer I received.
 
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No one is claiming anything. It is how people identify with their sexuality.

This topic has been brought up in much longer, and heated threads. Does the exact same conversation need to happen again? If you don't understand someone's sexual identity, you don't have to. You also don't have to keep making assertions that people need to be this, this, and this, with labels of your choosing.

Do you want to know why people get defensive? Because people don't listen. You can have a 20 page thread, with a couple of dozen separate people telling their life stories, and people still won't get it. Why? Because they are unwilling to understand what someone else is communicating, again, and again.

So there is a level of frustration and defensiveness by the people who are ..slowly..taking..their..time.. to explain the exact same thing to the same people, who aren't here to understand. They are just here to make an assertion, and tell everyone else they are wrong, or in denial. Stop it.

From my own personal history: it took me a while to wrap my head around transgendered persons. Like, a long time. But, while I thought about it, and thought some more, I didn't corner people and tell them that they were wrong, or in denial, or..whatever. It was my process to understand; not their job to repeat themselves to me until I was satisfied with the answer I received.
No need to be rude and aggressive. I didn’t know that there were already threads on this subject. And I didn’t corner or attack people like you claim I did. You shouldn’t make such accusations without providing evidence.
 
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No need to be rude and aggressive. I didn’t know that there were already threads on this subject. And I didn’t corner or attack people like you claim I did. You shouldn’t make such accusations without providing evidence.
Clarity of communication isn't rude.

..and you aren't new to this conversation, just persistent:
I’ve seen quite a few people say this and get quite defensive about it, and it boggles my mind.

Also, you come off as very judgemental, with a degree of willful ignorance in your posts. As you have found out, people don't have much tolerance for that. You like to finger point, but get really defensive when people point that finger back at you.
 
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If a "straight" guy asks me to suck his cock, who am I to argue with him over his self-perception? I would consider him not 100% straight, but it's up to him to decide where he falls on the spectrum. Yes, some people are just deluding themselves. Some people are just curious and don't do it again once they experience it. Some guys just look at it as a way of getting off. Whatever. I think people get to define themselves.
 

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Sounds just like me lol the real barrier was admitting it to myself...

Well said

I definitely agree with you that sexuality is a spectrum. But I would challenge your question a bit.

I’m not a huge fan of labels, and I’m a firm believer in letting people identify however they want. It’s true that if a guy is regularly enjoying other guys’ dicks, there’s clearly something going on there. But it’s up to him to decide what it means.

In my own case, if you’d asked me at age 20 what I was, I would’ve said straight. I wouldn’t have even thought twice about it: I’d been with girls, and there hadn’t been anything weird about it, so I assumed that was that. To be honest, I probably would’ve taken offense that anyone might possibly think I was gay. Granted, I was secretly watching boy-on-boy stuff online, but nobody else knew about that, and hey... everybody’s got a guilty pleasure, right?

Eventually of course I admitted I liked guys. But it wasn’t till years later, when I realized I had no real desire to ever be with a girl again, that I fully saw myself as gay. In retrospect, I’d been gay all along, but I’d thoroughly convinced myself otherwise. And I was lucky: I had supportive friends and family, so the real barrier was admitting it to myself.

I guess what I’m trying to say is: yes, if a guy likes having sex with other guys, then that’s definitely some shade of gray. But I also agree if he wants to call himself straight, let him. Whether he’s in denial or not— maybe he just has different views on sexuality— it’s up to him to figure out....
 
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just a sensitive ass ! no more or less
and straight less dive into prostate experiences until they find out it gives them great pleasure.
Do not consider the gay !
 

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It's like someone saying they are a good Christian when they are actually total scrumbags.

In my mind, everyone is entitled to think of themselves as they wish but that doesn't mean we can't have our own label for what they are.
 

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Its exhausting trying to figure out peoples own labels nowadays so might as well let them label themselves however they want. What ever makes you happy. If you wanna fantasy about having a cock in your mouth but call yourself straight... whatever, lol.
 

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Do you think a guy can actually be straight if he enjoys sucking or riding dick? Or do you think he must be a bit bi? I think a guy can be mostly straight and still like cock, but they’re definitely not completely straight.

I can’t see myself ever eating out or fucking a pussy, unless it were for a ton of money maybe. I just don’t find pussy attractive or arousing. So if a guy who identifies as gay also enjoys eating out or fucking pussy, I would consider him to be less gay than me. Likewise, I think a guy who identifies as straight but enjoys cock is less straight than a guy who has no interest in cock.

Sexuality is a spectrum with many shades of gray. It is also possible to fall on either end of a spectrum. Some men are definitely 100% straight and have no interest in guys or cock, and some men are definitely 100% gay and have no interest in women, pussy or tits.

But how can people claim that a man is still completely straight even though he enjoys cock, or that a man is still completely gay even though he enjoys pussy? I’ve seen quite a few people say this and get quite defensive about it, and it boggles my mind. Wouldn’t those people actually be some shade of gray?


Why don't we just let these labels go, they only cause loads of misery for many people who are struggling with their sexual orientation not knowing what to call it, who they are.

The word Homosexual empowers haters - fag, pooftah, batty, etc and a good beating for not being 'normal' - awful word.

The word Bisexual empowers haters on both sides, - I find it especially tragic that gay men poke fun at Bisexual men, I only know very few gay men who have never had sex with a female

Young LGBT people still have the highest rate of suicide because of these names, struggling to be able to tell friends and family they prefer same sex partners, suffer bullying at school.

No, it's time to let these words go, WE should stop using them, WE can lead that revolution and improve the lives of those who will be following us, yes I know my profile says 100% gay, but I think I might very well take that off and let you all guess! Feel free to ask if I like sucking dick.
 
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