If healthcare is a right, should the .gov dictate what you

[twoton]

But it does bring up a good point. Someone who smokes cigarettes will have higher healthcare costs than someone who doesn't. How do we balance his freedom to smoke against our having to pay for his care?

Motorcycle riders are not required to wear helmets in many states. Yet states provide funding for traumatic brain injuries. Should we have to pay extra for someone who makes the decision to not wear a helmet?

We could keep going on this. Overweight. Inactive lifestyles. Heavy drinking. Jumping on trampolines. Swimming in shark infested waters. Sliding into second base. Promiscuous unprotected sex.

 

[1046021]

Is the Declaration of Independence a legally binding document?

Certainly is, also completely off topic.

 

[TexanStar]

But it does bring up a good point. Someone who smokes cigarettes will have higher healthcare costs than someone who doesn't. How do we balance his freedom to smoke against our having to pay for his care?

Motorcycle riders are not required to wear helmets in many states. Yet states provide funding for traumatic brain injuries. Should we have to pay extra for someone who makes the decision to not wear a helmet?

We could keep going on this. Overweight. Inactive lifestyles. Heavy drinking. Jumping on trampolines. Swimming in shark infested waters. Sliding into second base. Promiscuous unprotected sex.

In a democratic republic, which we are, we vote for representatives who enact such laws as needed (seat belt laws, motorcycle helmet laws, etc).

It's not "dictated".

 

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

Certainly is, also completely off topic.

When was the last time the Supreme Court decided on the Declaration of Independency of a law?

 

[Industrialsize]

When was the last time the Supreme Court decided on the Declaration of Independency of a law?

You post like a child. I'm done with you.

 

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

In a democratic republic, which we are, we vote for representatives who enact such laws as needed (seat belt laws, motorcycle helmet laws, etc).

It's not "dictated".

But if my taxes are going to pay for your health insurance, should I NOT be able to coax my Congress critters to write certain behaviors as too risky into the law?

 

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

You post like a child. I'm done with you.

Yeah, you said that yesterday.

But here you are, pouty lip and all.

 

[1046021]

You post like a child. I'm done with you.

I was thinking the exact same. Thanks. I don't have anything further.

 

[Industrialsize]

But it does bring up a good point. Someone who smokes cigarettes will have higher healthcare costs than someone who doesn't. How do we balance his freedom to smoke against our having to pay for his care?

Motorcycle riders are not required to wear helmets in many states. Yet states provide funding for traumatic brain injuries. Should we have to pay extra for someone who makes the decision to not wear a helmet?

We could keep going on this. Overweight. Inactive lifestyles. Heavy drinking. Jumping on trampolines. Swimming in shark infested waters. Sliding into second base. Promiscuous unprotected sex.

"We could keep going on this". And where will it get you?

 

[TexanStar]

But if my taxes are going to pay for your health insurance, should I NOT be able to coax my Congress critters to write certain behaviors as too risky into the law?

You're already able to do this. Hell, remember this guy?

He's part of the reason your car has seat belts in it.

 

[Industrialsize]

Pop quiz, hot shot!

Is the phrase "...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..." actually found in the Constitution?

The writings of the founders of the nation and of the constitution provide the best look at their reasoning behind the actual laws and governing system that they put into effect. Now, when the US Supreme Court reviews cases of constitutional law, they use these secondary sources to help interpret the law.

So while the Declaration of Independence not a "legal document" as such, it may have legal ramifications if it reveals something of import to the SCOTUS justices.

 

[twoton]

"We could keep going on this". And where will it get you?

Hopefully to a point where we draw boundaries as to what we'll pay for and what we won't pay for. We can't pay for everything everyone wants. That's just the reality of it.

 

[Industrialsize]

Hopefully to a point where we draw boundaries as to what we'll pay for and what we won't pay for. We can't pay for everything everyone wants. That's just the reality of it.

Where has that been proposed?

 

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

You're already able to do this. Hell, remember this guy?

He's part of the reason your car has seat belts in it.

Tucker was the first to put seatbelts in cars, if I am remembering things correctly.

For whatever reasons, Tucker's "business model" wasn't viable...but the Detroit's big 3 were, even sans seatbelts.

Said another way, I would rather have some things decided or demanded by the consumer in the free market.

Obviously, car safety standards and healthcare insurance are no longer free markets.

 

[Klingsor]

You started the same thread three times???

 

[b.c.]

You started the same thread three times???

That's because he's a

 

[slurper_la]

Eat, how much you exercise, penalize you for smoking, ding you for drinking alcohol, test you for illegal drugs, and require you to wear condoms, etcetera, etcetera?

He who pays the piper, gets to pick the tune.

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All of those things are done now, by insurance companies, by corporations, etc.

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[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

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All of those things are done now, by insurance companies, by corporations, etc.

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But when the government starts footing the bills for your healthcare with MY taxpayer money, shouldn't I have say via governmental laws and regulations what behaviors will and will NOT be covered?

 

[slurper_la]

so by your logic.. and comment.... we can can get rid of the following... which are not mentioned in the constitution

• The Air Force
• Congressional Districts
• The Electoral College
• Executive Order
• Executive Privilege
• Freedom of Expression
• (Absolute) Freedom of Speech and Press
• "From each according to his ability..."
• God
• Immigration
• Impeachment means removal from office
• Innocent until proven guilty
• It's a free country
• Judicial Review
• Jury of Peers
• "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"
• Marriage
• Martial Law
• No taxation without representation
• Number of Justices in the Supreme Court
• "Of the people, by the people, for the people"
• Paper Money
• Political Parties
• Primary Elections
• Qualifications for Judges
• The right to privacy
• The right to travel
• The right to vote

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You forgot: "In god we trust"

 

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

That's because he's a
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Yo, dawg!

Shit's chess, not checkers!