If man (mankind) is created in the image of God then God must be

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I am just a little curious as to what exactly the point of this thread was. If you didn't have a defined discussion topic, wouldn't it have been better to just keep this as a blog?

Additionally, what exactly are you trying to say? Are you just against world religions in general? The way people handle them? Their misinterpretation? Their interpretation?

Regardless of your particular beliefs, it seems to me like you have a lot of anger to deal with - its fine that something annoys you, but what's the point in posting at all if the post is incoherent, rambling, hateful, and without focus?
 

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:confused: Whose report must I believe?


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Here's what I got from Wikipedia. Apparently both word origins are listed!

Etymology
The word sin derives from Old English synn, recorded in use as early as the 9th century.[1] The same root appears in several other Germanic languages, e.g. Old Norse synd, or German Sünde. There is presumably a Germanic root *sun(d)jō (literally "it is true").[2] The word may derive, ultimately, from *es-, one of the Proto-Indo-European roots that meant "to be," and is a present participle, "being." Latin, also has an old present participle of esse in the word sons, sont-, which came to mean "guilty" in Latin.[citation needed] The root meaning would appear to be, "it is true;" that is, "the charge has been proven."
The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτία) is usually translated as sin in the New Testament. In Classical Greek, it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target" which was also used in Old English archery.[3] In Koine Greek, which was spoken in the time of the New Testament, however, this translation is not adequate.[4] In other research, this word has been associated with the "hem" of a garment.[citation needed]
"Sin" was also the name of the Babylonian/Akkadian moon god. Some students in recent times have postulated a connection with the modern English word "sin"[citation needed], but this is likely a folk-etymology. Note that the Babylonian/Akkadian deity name Sin is derived from the Sumerian moon god Nanna - Suen. In the Sumerian myth "Enlil and Ninlil" [4] Suen is trapped in the underworld. Sons of Enlil and Ninlil are given as substitutes to allow for the ascent of Suen.


I personally like the "to miss the mark" definition. In other words, a sin is a mistake. We can learn from our mistakes. And no one is perfect, we all make mistakes, and yes we all "sin" so to speak, but I don't think we should condemn people for that. Now obviously there are some heinous acts that we do have to punish or remove people from society for, but those are the ones that are already considered felony crimes.

But I don't consider being gay or bisexual to be a sin at all.
 

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Hello

Say you told your children not to play with the electricity plug because it would really hurt them, but because of there age they had no idea of what could really happen to them & even if you tried to explain what all the effects of it was, you knew that all they could understand is " that plug really can hurt you so don't play with it" ,
then say they did do it and got a a shock from it that caused some serious illness, how would you feel? and now that they have "missed the mark" would you still try and help them?.

Now say you were told that you were still like little babies when it comes to what god is all about & you need to be taught by god,much like we teach our kids about our selfs & all that we know.
Then god says don't eat that stuff from that tree because it will hurt you, because god knows that there is no way you can comprehend the end result.
The "tree" was not bad in its self, just like electricity is not bad, but can kill if used wrongly but do we stop having it because our kids may get hurt? no we teach them to respect it if nothing else. the same as the "tree"
If your not ready for the end result you may not dealt with it to your fullest ability and you may find that your just not ready.

If you start reading the bible with that attitude ( like you don't know every thing even though most of us think we do,including me)
i think we would have maybe a better attitude our selfs and others.

Lastly, god did still try to tell us that forgiveness is better then revenge, but man did not want to here it, that is why we have the laws of the old testament because man kind as a whole finds it hard to forgive,so god had to make sure we did not extract more "justice then we ought too" that is why you can only tale 1 eye for 1 eye no more, yet if we could forgive we would be so much richer.

Just my take on things, if you look at the big bang, the universe going from one point outwards, what sound can do in water at the right frequency, and so on i think you'll find it interesting if nothing else.

Thank You.
 

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SugarandSpice, I love a good rant, and that is what it sounded like when you started going off about religion, but just to get one thing clear, are you saying that people from minority groups have no right to criticize your religion?
Like it takes some especially enormous balls and unheard of gall for someone on the fringes to feel like they have a right to an opinion to criticize someone's religion.
Wow, that is an outrageous assumption/accusation. It is rude and ignorant from anyone period. I'm saying people who are rude and ignorant should go and coitus thyself! Basically ,I mean that some people who want tolerance are bigoted hypocrites-DUH!
You seem to be suggesting that straight white people have more of a right than not straight/not white people. This statement is inflammatory bullshit.

On that note there is a punk band that wrote a song similar to what you wrote at the end of that rant. It had lyrics that may offend a few people, but hey, I didn't write it and it is pretty funny.
"Mary was a virgin so God must be a fag" followed by
"God's a fag" over and over.
I like it! Rock on! haha!!!!
Fag wasn't always a bad word so as long as "fag" is not meant to insult then I like it. I'll have to see if I can find that song.
 

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I am just a little curious as to what exactly the point of this thread was. If you didn't have a defined discussion topic, wouldn't it have been better to just keep this as a blog?

Additionally, what exactly are you trying to say? Are you just against world religions in general? The way people handle them? Their misinterpretation? Their interpretation?

Regardless of your particular beliefs, it seems to me like you have a lot of anger to deal with - its fine that something annoys you, but what's the point in posting at all if the post is incoherent, rambling, hateful, and without focus?
start your own thread and quit bitching you whiny ass
I'll post wherever I please and you are a teeny tiny insignificant minority who dislike what I write. Here's a raspberry for you :tongue:
 

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Gay,straight,and bisexual along with male and female.
A lot of animals exhibit gay,bisexual,and straight behavior this way too. Some animals can even change sex to have babies. These behaviors are instincts and natural similar to humans.
I have had friends who were born the wrong sex. Somehow they had a spirit that was obviously the gender they had to gotten changed to. They experienced some kind of mix up. That is the only time I would think there is some "cause" like environmental or something. I can't imagine how difficult and painful it must be for them and I am so glad they can get "treatment" for this "problem".
In ancient times before patriarchy the mother's brother was considered the closest male relative to her child. This is still how a significant number of people are raised considering the divorces and single parents. Lots of people are raised by moms and are closer to uncles than the fathers.
Another point is that were are not lobsters ,penguins,or other animals that NATURALLY have only one mate for life. It looks like only some humans naturally have one lifelong mate as well as some gay humans.
Non-straight humans are not a phenomenon like Autisms which has become prevalent.
Same sex love has been widely accepted and practiced and documented by known rulers and societies in the ancient world . Even the God Bacchus is gay along with many others.
The same religious views that supposedly are against all non-straight behavior are derived from societies that regularly stoned children for being"rebellious". They claimed that many kinds of atrocities were justified because God was on their side including slavery. Slavery is still common in the most sexually repressive cultures.
I would like to also say that I disapprove of the religious bigotry that I have seen on this site (it isn't more than in society at large but still rude) and I don't mean just towards me and my beliefs.
You don't find Pagans telling people who and how they can love outside the law of three which just represents karmic law. Whatever you do will come back to you.
If you are wondering what Pagan is. It means "of the country". People who were outside the control of the the forced religion and still practiced the "Old Religion' sometimes known as Witchcraft. I do not appreciate when someone who is gay acts rude to me about my religion. It seems like if they want tolerance they should also give it along with equality. That also goes for my friends and people I meet from formerly repressed and segregated racial groups. Some want everything phrased just perfect for their sensitivities then turn around and behave like bigots when it comes to religion. Let's all show some respect for each other.
I seen some rudeness about peoples beliefs but not a lot so far. People can say whatever they want but it still makes them assholes and/or ignorant.
I have heard some odd religious beliefs like someone finds an old rotted piece of paper in a cave and they say it is from God. I don't call them crazy on a public forum because that would be rude to the people who think old writings from caves are God papers.
another thing is that if God had a baby but didn't have sex with the mother that is OBVIOUSLY GAY!! LMAO.

I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.
 

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I thought this was going to be:

If man is created in God's image why are God's 'men' being circumcised? And if circumcision is part of God's image, why are we not born circumcised?

Guess not...
Good point.
Maybe God is has a giant foreskin over his whole body and uses it for a sleeping bag.
LMAO
 

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I thought this was going to be: If man is created in God's image why are God's 'men' being circumcised? And if circumcision is part of God's image, why are we not born circumcised? Guess not...



That would have been infinitely more interesting than the OP's inane, rambling; and unsubstantiated tripe.
 

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It was the winter of '65, we were hungry, just barely alive, took a train to Richmondtown- here's their website- Historic Richmond Town | Welcome actually it was the winter of 70 and it was a schoolbus but Joan Baez had a better visual approach- the bus made the turn up on Arthur Kill Road and that was just about the end of us all what with the spin that the black ice created for the driver and the bus. I met God that day- God is a terrifying creature which alternates between being a bright light, a dark void and all with a splitting headache. Years later as I motored my bike along the road towards Kerhonskon having left George back in Ellenville I hit a bump in the road and met up with God again-for close to a month! God was now sporting a new look, shorter hair, a new robe and sapphire rings on all 9037 fingers (God has extra fingers since God needs to keep a finger on all situations and an eye as well which is why God has 864 eyes:eek:). God reminded me of the sin of fornicating and offered me some advice- which I no longer recall. There were Wednesday night hoedowns and orgies with the medical staff- the medications were very good! Finally God said it was time for me to return to the living.


My earliest recollections had God and Jesus looking amazingly alike. These days I see God as a spiritual essence and as a big overseer with many underlings who do God's bidding and keep us humans out of trouble-most of the time.
 

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Gay,straight,and bisexual along with male I would like to also say that I disapprove of the religious bigotry that I have seen on this site (it isn't more than in society at large but still rude) and I don't mean just towards me and my beliefs.
I do not appreciate when someone who is gay acts rude to me about my religion.What religion would that be?
That also goes for my friends and people I meet from formerly repressed and segregated racial groups.
Uh, what?
Some want everything phrased just perfect for their sensitivities then turn around and behave like bigots when it comes to religion. Let's all show some respect for each other.
I seen some rudeness about peoples beliefs but not a lot so far. People can say whatever they want but it still makes them assholes and/or ignorant.Like you? Anyone who disagrees with you,you call names,like the above.

You mean like this statement?
I have heard some odd religious beliefs like someone finds an old rotted piece of paper in a cave and they say it is from God. I don't call them crazy on a public forum because that would be rude to the people who think old writings from caves are God papers. Your jumbled beliefs are just a mish mash of,God only knows! There is no rhyme or reason, to anything you've stated.
another thing is that if God had a baby but didn't have sex with the mother that is OBVIOUSLY GAY!! LMAO.
Wow, you really are ignorant and rude. You ask folks to "to not be bigots and not rude" Then what is this statement except ridiculous,rude,and bigoted. You should really learn how to read to "enrich whats left of your mind.
This is the truth, not rude.Nobody knows what the hell your'e talking about. I suspect you wrote this, while on drink or drugs.
cigarbabe:saevil:
 

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I wish we didn't have to reply to fruitcakes like the OP, either in this forum or IRL. Unfortunately, they are too numerous and too influential.

One gets nowhere, though, if one engages with the madness. The original argument is gibberish and ought to be labelled as such.

To try to explain to the OP how he has the message of Jesus wrong, or has misinterpreted it, or misunderstood it, will just draw you into an unwinnable argument and expose the grounds on which your own personal belief is based. Is that basis any better than the original poster's?
 

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I wish we didn't have to reply to fruitcakes like the OP, either in this forum or IRL. Unfortunately, they are too numerous and too influential.

One gets nowhere, though, if one engages with the madness. The original argument is gibberish and ought to be labelled as such.

To try to explain to the OP how he has the message of Jesus wrong, or has misinterpreted it, or misunderstood it, will just draw you into an unwinnable argument and expose the grounds on which your own personal belief is based. Is that basis any better than the original poster's?
Douche bag
 

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Wow, you really are ignorant and rude. You ask folks to "to not be bigots and not rude" Then what is this statement except ridiculous,rude,and bigoted. You should really learn how to read to "enrich whats left of your mind.
This is the truth, not rude.Nobody knows what the hell your'e talking about. I suspect you wrote this, while on drink or drugs.
cigarbabe:saevil:
I was actually sober and plenty of people understood my points.
Yes, I do call people names because they are rude and stupid and treat me bad just because they are unfamiliar with some philosophical ideas.
Some of the resposes have een loaded with insults and unfair accusations not merely disagreements.
I make errors in my spelling and grammar when I am in a lot of pain and sometimes I am too lazy to fix them.My statements still make sense even with the errors. Sometimes I post while on pain medication and I am more likely to name call.I can admit that it can affect my personality.
I just called someone a doughbag because his response was loaded with insults just because he disagrees with me. I thought about what you said Cigarbabe and I can write another post explaining that there is no one story of Jesus that is right or true and that his response was uneducated and narrow minded.
I can take constructive criticism . I had to learn the flow of this site and see how this forum works and how to respond to other posts . Sometimes I just call names but I am getting better and your post had made me realize that I should take the time to point out the errors I see or comment appropriately instead of just calling someone a douchbag even if they had it coming.
It just makes me laugh to call them names. I enjoy it.
Have a happy new year
p.s. I hate the shift key.It bothers my neck to use my fingers like that so sometimes I am not going to capitalize.
 

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I wish we didn't have to reply to fruitcakes like the OP, either in this forum or IRL. Unfortunately, they are too numerous and too influential.

One gets nowhere, though, if one engages with the madness. The original argument is gibberish and ought to be labelled as such.

To try to explain to the OP how he has the message of Jesus wrong, or has misinterpreted it, or misunderstood it, will just draw you into an unwinnable argument and expose the grounds on which your own personal belief is based. Is that basis any better than the original poster's?
Your response is just ignorant and narrow minded. You call me names yetr you are so incredibly ignorant and stupid. There is no one true story of Jesus to fucking misinterpret. IDIOT!!
Well, yes, CB I'm a name caller cuz this guy is a douche bag. He doesn't make an educated argument.
I don't have a lot of patience for the arrogant and stupid.
 

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Hello

sugarandspice, this statement "There is no one true story of Jesus to fucking misinterpret." what are you saying?, that there are many stories or that Jesus was not a real person? i don't quite get it.

Thank You.
 

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you misinterpret the word "image". if i were to create something in my image it would be how i would like it to be.call it an idea. GOD created us how he thought man would be.to be like him. meaning to be good wise,but obedient to him.