If you had to end it all...

[Xcuze]

Oh God, it would have to be the most painless way possible. I don't understand these people who throw themselves in front of trains or off buildings. Or stab or shoot themselves dead. Violent suicides, which seem to be a much more male thing.

I can't ever see myself doing it tbh. No matter how shit my life got I just don't think I'd have the balls to go through with it. Of course, severe pain and lack of hope could change my thinking entirely.

 

[conntom]

I too am a 'right to die' conservative. (and I think there are a lot of people like that)

So.....skydiving was mentioned. Yes you could do this. Students are require to use the auto open devices but not all skydiving center require it. So you could go and not pull....
Barring a change in the laws I'm not aware of that is......(i'm a skydiver)

How about the car's exhaust hose into the window with the car sealed up nice. Then with the car all started up and running I would take in a healthy does of nyquil to knock me out while all the pain of life is ended. (It might be wise to remove your catalytic converter first for more a more effective process)

Frankly, it is cruel to keep the sick and in pain alive. WHere the hell did this practice come from?

 

[Mem]

Oh God, it would have to be the most painless way possible. I don't understand these people who throw themselves in front of trains or off buildings. Or stab or shoot themselves dead. Violent suicides, which seem to be a much more male thing.

Jumping n front of a train or jumping off a building or shooting yourself in the head is painless because it's over before you feel the pain. Stabbing yourself is rare and is a form of self hate. Slicing your wrists must hurt but I think people do it underwater in a tub for it to hurt less.

 

[Northland]

Impossible for me to say.


Oh, wait, I've already been that close to having a dance with The Grim Reaper:biggrin1:.

http://www.lpsg.org/94259-two-years-already.html

The thing about terminal illness, as I learned myself, is that until the final moment, there's always that weird hope. Pain and all (along with a variety of crazy drugs, which can not only numb pain, they can offer sensations otherwise unknown). I was told it was over, to get my affairs in order. It was repeated after the second regimen of treatment failed. I pleaded and cried for another group of meds and got a different oncologist. Persistence kept me alive.

If a person wants to end it, that is their choice and it should be an option available. I wasn't dealing with a cancer that affected my cognitive skills; so, I knew what was going on. I knew if I somehow pulled through, my mind would still function. Of course there was also the threat of having various items attached for possibly forever since my digestive tract was damaged. In the end, my decision was to take the chance. This was my decision, and one which was not arrived at easily. The knowledge of long term side effects from meds, the physical rehab, the possibility of recurrence, all had to be weighed in. When a regimen for wiping out the cancer failed, I had to think it through again. Less than 5 years later, I'm still not considered fully cured, as the 'window' which the medical community presents, has a 5 year mark. Then again, in the past year, I've seen 2 people have recurrence of their non-Hodgkin lymphoma, one has died, the other is close- they'd lasted 10 years without any cancer, it returned more aggressively and wider spread- that is what I think of now, so my decision today might be different.

Today, I might refuse treatment, as many have over the years. If I refused treatment, I don't know that I would then look for a way out- the screwy part of my thinking, would tell me to go for the ride, get those last sensations, those last moments of interacting with people. During my cancer battle, a friend of mine, was dealing with pancreatic cancer. He died in early 2006, but, he was lucid (aside from what meds do) up until the end. He knew (the majority of the time) who was visiting, who had called on the phone, and still made his little quips. He also knew he wasn't going to make it; but, didn't want to run away.

Everybody is different for what they can and cannot handle, and the option to bow out should exist, with the medical community assisting.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Jumping n front of a train or jumping off a building or shooting yourself in the head is painless because it's over before you feel the pain. Stabbing yourself is rare and is a form of self hate. Slicing your wrists must hurt but I think people do it underwater in a tub for it to hurt less.

My brother jumped off of a building to commit suicide...he survived on the way to the hospital and died before they got there. There is no guarantee of death, especially a painless one this route. My brother was a paratrooper and knew how to jump and still didn't die instantly.

 

[Mem]

My brother jumped off of a building to commit suicide...he survived on the way to the hospital and died before they got there. There is no guarantee of death, especially a painless one this route. My brother was a paratrooper and knew how to jump and still didn't die instantly.

Maybe not knowing how to jump would have been better. If you jump off a 50 story building your odds of ending up dead look pretty good.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

There are far better and less messy ways to go

 

[conntom]

Jumping n front of a train or jumping off a building or shooting yourself in the head is painless because it's over before you feel the pain. Stabbing yourself is rare and is a form of self hate. Slicing your wrists must hurt but I think people do it underwater in a tub for it to hurt less.

In a nice warm bath as the loss of blood will make you cold...

Problem with it is you have plenty of time to regret doing it but nearly no time to save yourself - at least when done correctly.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

I think its also less messy in the tub. As long as you are found before you disintegrate into sludge and everyone in the family calls you Uncle Stew

 

[Flashy]

Cryonics, baby. Wake me up when you can fix what's wrong.

lol...reminds me of that scene from "Fierce Creatures"...when his dad gets shot in the head, and Kevin Kline is trying to get him to a freezer because he has to be cryogenically frozen until there is a cure...LOL.

 

[Flashy]

This is a very difficult issue at best.

I come from a medical family and I have seen both easy and hard death within a vast number of friends, and family who left this world with the help of HIV.

If you are dealing with a medical condition or progression of a condition known for intense physical pain then the whole thing becomes even more difficult.

Though assisted death is not "legal" per se, in some ways it is done every day by increasing the rate of a morphine drip to the point that the drug begins to interfere with breathing. If there is a definite no code or DNR order then by the time that the end comes one will be totally unconscious at the time the end comes anyway. This has the advantage of not creating other legal problems at the end based on the type of death.

There are numerous drugs available OTC that will do it very easily, but the problem with most drug assisted death is that there is no way to absolutely positively guarantee the end will be free of suffering. I have always had mixed feelings regarding Jack Kevorkian. I do believe that there are times when we are far kinder to our pets than we are to other people. I do believe in a right to die with dignity rather than a prolonged tour through agony.

Of all of the deaths I have seen the toughest came from a condition called P.M.L. and that was one I still could not believe simply because of the way it went.

I think the best way is to find MD's (and there are more than a few) who are willing to walk this tightrope. There are many very compassionate MD's who will help you. The biggest thing here is to make certain that everything in the situation is controlled. For this kind of thing your best chances are if you are as the time grows near in a home hospice situation with friends and family all around you and with an MD who who will "do everything he/she can to ease your suffering" and will help you transition on.

I am personally against the more obvious methods because, by necessity and law depending on jurisdiction investigations around you by law enforcement are guaranteed. The outcome of those investigations can have a pronounced effect on others and then the viewpoint that counts is the one of the legal system and the representatives of that system in your area.

an excellent post.

very thoughtful and thorough

 

[Flashy]

Impossible for me to say.


Oh, wait, I've already been that close to having a dance with The Grim Reaper:biggrin1:.

http://www.lpsg.org/94259-two-years-already.html

The thing about terminal illness, as I learned myself, is that until the final moment, there's always that weird hope. Pain and all (along with a variety of crazy drugs, which can not only numb pain, they can offer sensations otherwise unknown). I was told it was over, to get my affairs in order. It was repeated after the second regimen of treatment failed. I pleaded and cried for another group of meds and got a different oncologist. Persistence kept me alive.

If a person wants to end it, that is their choice and it should be an option available. I wasn't dealing with a cancer that affected my cognitive skills; so, I knew what was going on. I knew if I somehow pulled through, my mind would still function. Of course there was also the threat of having various items attached for possibly forever since my digestive tract was damaged. In the end, my decision was to take the chance. This was my decision, and one which was not arrived at easily. The knowledge of long term side effects from meds, the physical rehab, the possibility of recurrence, all had to be weighed in. When a regimen for wiping out the cancer failed, I had to think it through again. Less than 5 years later, I'm still not considered fully cured, as the 'window' which the medical community presents, has a 5 year mark. Then again, in the past year, I've seen 2 people have recurrence of their non-Hodgkin lymphoma, one has died, the other is close- they'd lasted 10 years without any cancer, it returned more aggressively and wider spread- that is what I think of now, so my decision today might be different.

Today, I might refuse treatment, as many have over the years. If I refused treatment, I don't know that I would then look for a way out- the screwy part of my thinking, would tell me to go for the ride, get those last sensations, those last moments of interacting with people. During my cancer battle, a friend of mine, was dealing with pancreatic cancer. He died in early 2006, but, he was lucid (aside from what meds do) up until the end. He knew (the majority of the time) who was visiting, who had called on the phone, and still made his little quips. He also knew he wasn't going to make it; but, didn't want to run away.

Everybody is different for what they can and cannot handle, and the option to bow out should exist, with the medical community assisting.

well, i personally am glad you made it Northie. :smile::wink:

 

[invisibleman]

I wouldn't want to leave a mess for my loved ones. Once I researched the topic, and a good method is supposedly getting a helium tank, a hose and a garbage bag, and I think you can figure out the rest...

DEATH BY HELIUM

You want to kill people with laughter listening to you speak after all that helium inhalation.

 

[invisibleman]

Death by chocolate.

Oh, I like her idea better.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9c8XlYSnpo

 

[chicagosam]

Insulin overdose.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

As long as you could get a hold of insulin, or morphine. I have enough Rx meds in my house that would easily make you accidentally stop breathing by slowly making your ability to breath go away with consciousness. This is something that accidentally kills people all the time.

 

[Xcuze]

Jumping n front of a train or jumping off a building or shooting yourself in the head is painless because it's over before you feel the pain. Stabbing yourself is rare and is a form of self hate. Slicing your wrists must hurt but I think people do it underwater in a tub for it to hurt less.

But its not a guaranteed way of dying. You could survive and be a vegetable. Which would really make your life shit! Many have survived jumping from buildings. There was a case a year ago where a guy jumped from his balcony holding his small child...he wanted the child to die with him. The guy survived but the child died. He was charged with murder but the guilt he must feel about killing his child must be more than he can bare.

Also, the whole lead up to a violent suicide must be a traumatic experience. Just thinking about what you are about to do. Im sure many chicken out at the last minute.

 

[Northland]

well, i personally am glad you made it Northie. :smile::wink:

You and me both:smile:.

 

[HazelGod]

lol...reminds me of that scene from "Fierce Creatures"...when his dad gets shot in the head, and Kevin Kline is trying to get him to a freezer because he has to be cryogenically frozen until there is a cure...LOL.

Haven't seen that one...but yeah, catastrophic brain trauma would sort of obviate cryonic vitrification.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

You and me both:smile:.

I can only imagine how interesting your entire story of survival must be. Do you have a blog of it somewhere?