If you have gay sex as a teenager does it count as real sexual experience?

[crescendo69]

Ah did not have sex with that woman!

 

[Male Bonding etc]

Let's see... surely somewhere there is a previous thread that lists the things that "straight" boys do, et cetera... One can only be 100% straight if...

Probably on that list is something along the lines that one can never even have a same sex dream. You might never tell anyone, but in your heart you'd know you couldn't be 100%.

And yes, Cres, I keep thinking of that quote also!

 

[fortiesfun]

Though I am tempted to be flippant, this question is fascinating because it becomes a real issue in almost every scientific experiment and sexual orientation survey. That is because the vast majority of men raised in Western cultures (upwards of 95%) have some male-male experience in their lives. (In fact, though I don't have the survey data with me at the moment I think I recall that a slight majority have at least one male-male experience after their teenage years are over.)

It really starts fuckin' with the data when you apply the kind of definitions that Rugbyscott is using, because you end up with almost no "straight" control population with which to compare "gay" men.

Instead of facing what this really means, which is that almost everybody is bisexual to some degree, we persist in trying to draw hard and fast lines between straight and gay.

However, treating to OP's question with some dignity, most surveys and most experimental protocols use a five year cut-off period and treat you as "str8" if you have had no homosexual contact in that period regardless of what you may have done, no matter how many times, and no matter for how long before you changed behaviors. (Not defending this position, which I find astonishing, but when you read the propaganda that says the gay population is 4% or less of the population, you are seeing this definition in place.) In the world of sexuality research, at least, your teenage experiments don't count.

The biggest exception of which I know has to do with blood donation. In the US and Canada if you have had male-male sex (any activity involving the actual or potential exchange of body fluids) since 1978 you are ineligible to give blood. In that case, at least in theory since in practice everyone lies, your adolescent experiments do count. Fortunately this is not a problem since the blood supply is so overstocked that no more donations are needed...

 

[bentrim]

i like sucking another man's cock until i get a mouthful of cum, but i also like eating pussy.

 

[DC_DEEP]

When having someone go down on you, one person is servicing the other. Don't try to make letting a guy smoke your pole once the same as fucking his stink hole dude. it's a whole different deal.

If you say so.

 

[B_NineInchCock_160IQ]

When having someone go down on you, one person is servicing the other. Don't try to make letting a guy smoke your pole once the same as fucking his stink hole dude. it's a whole different deal.

What if you sat down, perfectly still, and some other guy lowered himself onto your dick? He's doing all the work, you'r feeling similar sensations as you would if you were fucking some girls' ass, isn't he servicing you then?

For that matter, what if you enjoy having your prostate massaged, and some other guy offered to do this for you with his penis?

Or, by extension, you enjoy having penises shoved into your mouth, so some guy "services" you by putting his dick in yours. That's not gay, right? I mean, you're not doing any work. So you can't be gay.

This logic is problematic at best.

But I realize the need for some out there to try and rationalize past or current homosexual experiences so that they can still think of themselves as "100% straight."

Abandon this "100%" marquis as the ideal (or as one of two possible answers in a binary system), admit that there is some middle ground that you've clearly treaded into, stop obsessing so much about labels, and I think you'll be a happier person. Not you, rugbyscott, necessarily. Just anyone reading these words.

 

[Principessa]

If I have sex with someone and I don't enjoy it I don't count it, I've managed to keep my count down to a very reasonable 11 that way.

Gee, if thats how we are doing it my count is still in the single digits!

Hmm. If I had sex with a woman, but didn't enjoy it, and she got pregnant, would that be a virgin birth?

Of course!

 

[Hot stuff]

The str8 guys seem a bit coy. We eat what we like when we like because it tastes good to us at the time. Maybe later we feel it is sweet or sickly and change our palettes as we get older. Likewise sexual experiences will vairy according to our needs as we get older. The past is really irrelevant, it has been and gone. What is relevant to us is how we view our past experiences and have we desires to relive them,,, here sexuality becomes blurred as we combine our memories with powerful emotional bonds. The most obvious answer is at the time you got a kick out of a gay experience, and now it has become irrelevant; or you enjoyed the experience and discussing the issue with like minded people akes you feel more comfortable.. To be honest only you know the reality of your sexual desres

 

[Male Bonding etc]

Good points, NIC. Always a pleasure to see the 160 working in top form.

 

[weylun]

Absolutely. I'm not saying this well, but Sex is an action, and gay is an emotional bonding. Most guys between 14 and 25 can have sex with anything--including animals--as long as all they want to do is cum. I don't think it becomes gay until they NEED to be with a man as much or more than they do with a woman. IMHO

Yes! I agree. Being gay is just not having sex with guys. It's about being emotionally attached to a guy, about dreaming guys when jerking off, and about kissing a guy that FEELS right.

I've had a girlfriend before to "test" my sexuality and I can tell you that I am definitely GAY. Sure, pussy feels good but it's the penis that I absolutely adore.

I still watch straight porn 70% of the time (I watch the guys) but I am not straight.

 

[D_Elijah_MorganWood]

You're a Kinsey 1 or 2.

 

[vibratingfinger]

I've had two homosexual experience with one guy. Neither time I could get a hard on so it didn't go anywhere. But I still count them as sex.

 

[Male Bonding etc]

You're a Kinsey 1 or 2.

I liked that Kinsey scale. Here's Wikipedia's entry about it:
Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I'm pretty comfortable saying I'm a 2.

 

[basque9]

If you just fooling around when you were a teenager and learning about different ways to have sex and what feel good, does this count? I'm not counting mine but whats your opinion? Can a man be a straight man, if he has bisexual experiences in his teenage years? What do you think?

Eddie, I think the important factor in your case is not how many teenage boys you played with or maybe even sucked or fucked! The determining factor in whether you can qualify as a straight man is what you are doing as an adult and where your sexual preferences actually lie. Of course those experiences count, in the sense that they happened...but they have not necessarily put a stamp on your back which labels you bi-sexual or gay! Look into your heart and your inner feelings and you will be able to put the correct label on your sexuality...with no input needed from us!:smile:

 

[Falcon9]

The unexamined life is not worth living.

Socrates, in Plato, Dialogues, Apology
Greek philosopher in Athens (469 BC - 399 BC)

 

[D_Harry_Crax]

To OP, stop worrying so much.

 

[earllogjam]

If you just fooling around when you were a teenager and learning about different ways to have sex and what feel good, does this count? I'm not counting mine but whats your opinion? Can a man be a straight man, if he has bisexual experiences in his teenage years? What do you think?

I messed around with girls as a teen and I consider myself gay today. I just try to forget all those feelings of having sex with the opposite sex and poof they are gone. What's wrong with that? Isn't there some other productive thing you can think about than the shit you did as a teenager with guys? Are you the same person now as you were then? Most of us are not.

What I did as a teen doesn't define who I am today. If I did I would be a geeky, straight, nerd with a bad case of acne.

Don't most boys play doctor and play with each other? I did. All of those guys I played with turned out confirmed straight men.

Anyways who cares? I'd chalk it up to experience and get over it. If you consider yourself straight today isn't that the only thing that really matters?

 

[EddieAztek]

So if you and your buddy just sticking your dicks in places because the places are there and not because you were liking guys, this is gay sex? How can I say I've had gay sex if that was the only sex we could get before we decided we're only fucking girls? If you don't know what straight sex is, how can you be having gay sex?

I don't think myself a totally dishonest person but when I say I've never had real gay sex, I feel like that is the truth.

 

[Principessa]

]So if you and your buddy just sticking your dicks in places because the places are there and not because you were liking guys, this is gay sex? [/b]Yes, that seems to be the consensus. How can I say I've had gay sex if that was the only sex we could get before we decided we're only fucking girls? WTF?!? If you don't know what straight sex is, how can you be having gay sex? OH PLEASE! I grew up in a town that had more horses and chickens than people and by the age of 10 even I knew what gay sex was. In what corner of podunk did you grow up?!?
I don't think myself a totally dishonest person but when I say I've never had real gay sex, I feel like that is the truth. The truth is that you experimented with gay sex when you were younger. If even 1/10 of the stories men have written about on this site are true you aren't gay, odd, or even special. However if the only way you can sleep at niight is to say you have never had gay sex, then so be it.

Eddie darling, if you have had your dick in another mans ass, you had gay sex. If he had his dick in your ass, you had gay sex. If you sucked his dick, or he sucked yours you had gay sex! Stop trying weasel out of it!

None of the above is what makes a man gay. What makes a man gay or bisexual is the intense need to be with another man emotionally as well as physically. If I am not mistaken being a gay man also means you have no desire to engage in any type of sex with a woman.

 

[lemont77]

Eddie darling, if you have had your dick in another mans ass, you had gay sex. If he had his dick in your ass, you had gay sex. If you sucked his dick, or he sucked yours you had gay sex! Stop trying weasel out of it!

None of the above is what makes a man gay. What makes a man gay or bisexual is the intense need to be with another man emotionally as well as physically. If I am not mistaken being a gay man also means you have no desire to engage in any type of sex with a woman.

I think this is the definition of "succinct."