Im not a woman, but she swears its not me.

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Petite, you never talk about sex openly with people. You admit this often. Which is fine, but i've talked to hundreds and hundreds of women and men about orgasms. 60-70% is hardly accurate. If you actually talked to women about orgasming outside of a sex site, very few admit to being able to if they are honest with you.

It's great you do all that research, but many opinions are biased. I go by what women say and how much experimentation I've done in my years since being a child before i knew what a clitoris was, many women died centuries past without knowing what it was and how to use it. Why do you think women are notorious in history for discounting sex and thinking it only as a mans enjoyment....its not because they were incapable of orgasm at all. They had no idea how to get there and that it took more than sex to do it.

There are women dying all over this planet today who have no idea about it either and many more men than women don't know about it. Ask 1,000 men who have frequent sex where a woman urinates from. Watch the look on their face....

You will also see around here that there are men and sadly, a few women, who believe you can penetrate the cervix during sex and actually have your dick wandering around her uterus. And even better- she supposedly LOVES it. LOL
 

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Petite, you never talk about sex openly with people. You admit this often. Which is fine, but i've talked to hundreds and hundreds of women and men about orgasms. 60-70% is hardly accurate. If you actually talked to women about orgasming outside of a sex site, very few admit to being able to if they are honest with you.

It's great you do all that research, but many opinions are biased. I go by what women say and how much experimentation I've done in my years since being a child before i knew what a clitoris was, many women died centuries past without knowing what it was and how to use it. Why do you think women are notorious in history for discounting sex and thinking it only as a mans enjoyment....its not because they were incapable of orgasm at all. They had no idea how to get there and that it took more than sex to do it.

There are women dying all over this planet today who have no idea about it either and many more men than women don't know about it. Ask 1,000 men who have frequent sex where a woman urinates from. Watch the look on their face....

You will also see around here that there are men and sadly, a few women, who believe you can penetrate the cervix during sex and actually have your dick wandering around her uterus. And even better- she supposedly LOVES it. LOL

There is a lot of ignorance! I was watching an anime porn with TheBF, and lots of the things men are ignorant about actually appeared in it! The dialog included horny men talking about penetrating a woman's cervix with their cocks and other stupid things. We wondered if that's where men get ideas like those, from animators who have never had sex! :lmao:

I have also always been orgasmic. Whatever that statistic is for women who orgasm during intercourse, I'm one of them. It's much easier for me to believe that 5-10% of women have never orgasmed from intercourse alone and 25% almost always have orgasms from intercourse, with all other women falling between those two extremes, than it is for me to believe that 80% have never orgasmed form intercourse alone.

The range of percentages given in that article of orgasm from intercourse without clitoral stimulation, would seem to be much more realistic:

10% Never orgasm
20% Rarely orgasm
45% Sometimes orgasm
25% Almost always orgasm

It's much lower than the stats given in the 1953 Kinsey Report

The New York Times: A Critic Takes On the Logic of Female Orgasm said:
Dr. Lloyd's figures are lower than those of Dr. Alfred A. Kinsey, who in his 1953 book "Sexual Behavior in the Human Female" found that 39 to 47 percent of women reported that they always, or almost always, had orgasm during intercourse.

But Kinsey, Dr. Lloyd said, included orgasms assisted by clitoral stimulation.
 
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I agree, making a big deal about it will make her fake it.

You are one of those easy orgasmers. I thought i was the only one, women are embarrassed until they are hearing another women say something about how they also don't orgasm. I only figured out what a clit was good for from porn when the lady would run her own, I had no idea what that meant (i was a young teenager) and i asked my then 18 year old sister in law what that meant. I tried it several times after that with no real pleasurable feelings. It was only when i really concentrated for like 30 minutes on it did it happen and i have been hooked since.

Recently i found out my very sexually active Mom never has been able to do it either. I was like, ok good, its not just me once again.

So far only one of my real life friends has admitted to being able to do it. But she orgasms easily she says.

I orgasm easily, clitorally, with the right conditions in place. Things are getting more and more sensitive for me so im hoping i'll be surprised one day. But in the mean time, im like Dolfette, its not required to have a good time in bed.
 

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I can understand why women wouldn't discuss problems orgasming, but then again, I can understand not talking about all of it. I couldn't imagine sincerely talking about sex with my relatives. My mother would be willing to talk about it, I think, but I really don't to talk to her about it!

There's nothing wrong with playing with your clitoris during sex to achieve orgasm. I do it sometimes and sometimes TheBoyfriend does it for me. There doesn't need to be this stigma against doing it. The clitoris is a wonderful thing! :smile:
 

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Thanks for all of the help everyone. I am just not going to make a big deal out of it like i have been advised. Because if she doesn't cum she is completely satisfied with sex.
Thanks again for all of the replies
 

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I love how every guy here says no woman orgasmed before or after them. I laugh constantly about the statistics- given by real women. Ask an lpsg guy how many women orgasm from sex- all of them.
i've had guys convinced i came when i neither came nor faked.
kings of wishful thinking.
Thanks for all of the help everyone. I am just not going to make a big deal out of it like i have been advised. Because if she doesn't cum she is completely satisfied with sex.
Thanks again for all of the replies
well done you!
you're a bigger man than most.
 

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I suspect she never did orgasm in the first place. She is tired of faking it and now that the relationship has progressed, she is just going to say she cant orgasm anymore.

In my experiance, some girls make themselves orgasm. One would ride me on top until she came. So, do I get the credit for making her cum? I just lay there and let her hump me until she is done. Doesnt sound as "manly" as, "I fucked her til she came!"

Another would rub her clit during penetration til she came. Again, who gets the credit?

Another would grab my erect penis at the base and rub herself with it until she came. Not even penatration. Again, who gets the credit?

My point is that it doesnt matter who gets the credit for the orgasm. Hell, they cant make me cum either! No woman has ever given me an orgasm from a BJ, or from "riding" me. I have to thrust, ususally in doggy postition to cum.

And we all enjoy sex because we knew how to make it work WITH each other.
 

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I suspect she never did orgasm in the first place. She is tired of faking it and now that the relationship has progressed, she is just going to say she cant orgasm anymore.
don't be a twat.

lots of the women go through phases of losing their orgasm or finding it more difficult. it's frustrating and upsetting as hell! bad enough without some prat bloke assuming there's some lie involved.

it's so mental with us that it can only take a small change in our lives to throw things off kilter.
 

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that's just as fucking irritating as when a guy starts a thread about his girl's vaginismus halting their love life and a bunch of twat blokes insist it's because she's screwing around.
 

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don't be a twat.

lots of the women go through phases of losing their orgasm or finding it more difficult. it's frustrating and upsetting as hell! bad enough without some prat bloke assuming there's some lie involved.

it's so mental with us that it can only take a small change in our lives to throw things off kilter.
I am not being a twat. But isnt this a possibility among all the possibilities? This point has not been brought up.

The truth sucks sometimes. Its obvious she cares for him and that he is more worried about this issue than she is.
 

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I am not being a twat. But isnt this a possibility among all the possibilities? This point has not been brought up.

The truth sucks sometimes. Its obvious she cares for him and that he is more worried about this issue than she is.
yes you are.
you've lost all your cool points in one post.

you didn't say it was a slim possibility, you said you suspected this was the case.
 

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I suspect she never did orgasm in the first place. She is tired of faking it and now that the relationship has progressed, she is just going to say she cant orgasm anymore.

In my experiance, some girls make themselves orgasm. One would ride me on top until she came. So, do I get the credit for making her cum? I just lay there and let her hump me until she is done. Doesnt sound as "manly" as, "I fucked her til she came!"

Another would rub her clit during penetration til she came. Again, who gets the credit?

Another would grab my erect penis at the base and rub herself with it until she came. Not even penatration. Again, who gets the credit?

My point is that it doesnt matter who gets the credit for the orgasm. Hell, they cant make me cum either! No woman has ever given me an orgasm from a BJ, or from "riding" me. I have to thrust, ususally in doggy postition to cum.

And we all enjoy sex because we knew how to make it work WITH each other.

That's it, im dumping my husband. you are mine, all mine....and i'll share a little bit of you with Dolfette. Can you look at crime scene photos? If so, oh man. You are OURS.
 

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Every one of these posts always make me thing they are getting fooled, it's not their fault. She's the one who can fake an orgasm to perfection. You don't even have to know what one feels like to know how to sound like you are having one. If you critique my sex noises, they increase with more pleasure. But it doesn't equate orgasm. It's hard for a guy to understand that, they keep increasing pleasure with thrusts to the point of bursting into orgasm, it's not really what happens to us during the event.

I've always thought most of that simultaneous orgasm is bullshit, if it happens, great, but don't really expect it to. One person is riding the the line waiting on you and when you are starting, they are likely almost done, or you are, etc. It's like trying to synchronize sneezing with a friend.
 

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A point to consider: Is it possible that there is a greater percentage of men here making their girlfriends orgasm, because they have large penises? It's pretty well accepted that a large penis has a better chance of causing female orgasms, correct? And this is a community of well endowed men, after all.


There is some truth to this. A longer penis has a better chance of hitting the A-spot. Until I came to LPSG I didn't know that the A-spot existed. What I did know, was that I liked larger penises (over 7) because they hit what I called my 'full spot'. Then I came here and found out that it really does exist and it's not just me. Smaller penises are less likely to hit the A-spot which reduces the chance of female orgasm by a whole orgasmic zone.
 

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But guys who are shorter can bounce their pubic area off of the clitoris with each thrust. 10 inchers can't say that. I like my pubic bouncing....much better than any old fingers rubbing down there. Plus we can use our hands for other things. It's great. But then again, im getting all that stimulated at the same time. A spot, Gspot, clitoris.
 

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as a woman who has NEVER orgasmed during sex, i'm tempted to tell you to quit your whining.

some of us don't need an orgasm for sex to be mind blowing.
shit, i don't even like orgasms. if it was a choice between a fuck and an orgasm, i'd go with a fuck. . . .

I'm particularly glad to read your statement that "some of us don't need an orgasm for sex to be mind blowing." By saying that, you've helped to reassure me about a woman whom I once loved. Here's the story:

Toward the end of my first marriage I had an affair with a very interesting, intelligent, and attractive younger woman (I was 55, and she had just turned 34). She told me that she had had her inability to orgasm all her life, but that she nevertheless got a lot of pleasure from sex. She had been married, and faithful to her (less than faithful) husband, for a period of five years, but both before and after her marriage she had had numerous lovers. During our affair, I had no doubt that she was being faithful to me.

Naturally, I took it as a challenge to see whether I could help her achieve orgasm. I worked very hard a number of times to do so, and though she never cummed in the ordinary "explosive" sense, she always, repeat, always insisted that she enjoyed herself . She certainly gave many indications of enjoyment, including regularly becoming plentifully lubricated after just a minute or so of breast and/or clitoris stimulation. I remember one session when I performed cunnilingus on her for 10 or 15 minutes, then entered her, reached my climax, and immediately resumed cunnilingus for what must been close to an hour more, giving up only when she said she had been having a good time but had become just too sore to continue. She repeatedly evidenced and expressed enjoyment of our intercourse and of fellatio, which she loved doing and often initiated.

She told me she had had anal intercourse once or twice, but that it hurt her too much to want to repeat; and since I've never been much interested in anal sex, we never tried it. Childless, she had a delightfully tight vagina; it fit like a snug sheath along the full length of my penis, and thanks to regular Kegel exercises, she had wonderful control over her vaginal muscles, able to squeeze me even more tightly whenever she wanted to. She was even able to "milk" my penis, squeezing me from the base of my penis down to the head.

On those days when we could be together for the whole day, we always had at least four sessions of love-making, and sometimes more. Once, I recall, after only four sessions I had to leave because of the time. We were sitting at her table, having just finished supper (she was a great cook); when I said I had to leave, she reached out and started to undo my belt. I repeated that I simply had to go, but even so she clung to me at her door, rubbing my stiff penis through my trousers and begging me to stay just a little longer. I wanted badly to stay, but there just wasn't enough time.

She must have been among the small percentage (10 percent, I seem to have heard) of women who cannot achieve full orgasm, but there could be no doubting her enjoyment of sexual activity. Was she frigid? In my view, anyone who enjoys sex as much as she did (and, I hope, still does) is NOT frigid!
 

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But guys who are shorter can bounce their pubic area off of the clitoris with each thrust. 10 inchers can't say that. I like my pubic bouncing....much better than any old fingers rubbing down there. Plus we can use our hands for other things. It's great. But then again, im getting all that stimulated at the same time. A spot, Gspot, clitoris.

Yes, that is wonderful! I have to say that I love it when a guy is balls deep because of how wonderful it feels on my labia and clitoris. Full contact with the outside of my vagina feels so wonderful during sex, especially with lots of grinding!

I can get some of that sensation by rubbing my pubis mont against his belly during sex in different positions, which stimulates my clitoris, and that brings me to orgasm, but I do wish that he could fit all the way inside me more easily.
 

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I'm particularly glad to read your statement that "some of us don't need an orgasm for sex to be mind blowing." By saying that, you've helped to reassure me about a woman whom I once loved.

I have to agree with you. It doesn't sound like she's frigid at all! That was really nice reading about her. You obviously loved her very much.