Exactly the response I expected. LMFAO! Ah, some people are so predictable.Exactly the response I expected lmao!
Well, I showed you, but I can't force enlightenment on you. That's entirely up to you.Maybe I wouldn't be so "resistant" if only I knew what exactly the conflict was. But since you can't enlighten me on this subject I guess you will forever label me a stubborn mule. Oh how I wish I knew what this conflict was so I could resolve it!
You can lead a horse to water . . . . or as you say, "a mule" . . . . .
I haven't labeled you either, and I won't. You seem to be doing a good job of that all on your own.
You're absolutely correct. Defining sexual orientation includes behavior, thoughts, fantasies and desires.
Has anyone in this thread said that it was restricted to behavior?
Maybe you wouldn't be so confussed [sic] if you (and the OP) stuck to what I actually wrote, instead of putting your own interpretation on it or making things upFrom reading your posts, stating that he may benefit from "a caring therapist" as he has "conflict" I find confussing.
I don't subscribe to 'x' orientations, or 'y' orientations, or 'z' orientations. I believe in a continuum. People are distributed at various points along that continuum, a few reside at one extreme or the other, the rest fall somewhere in between, and sometimes some of them move around from one point to another. Sometimes they deny to themselves where they actually are on the continuum and work really hard at pretending they are somewhere else.If you agree that his sexual behavior does not solely conclude 'x' orientation, then why does he have conflicts?
I am much closer to the 'gay' end of that continuum than the OP claims to be, yet I have nowhere near the obsession with cocks he does, nor am I remotely interested in being penetrated or pounded in the ass.
Just sayin . . .
As far as conflicts go, I've seen plenty of men on this board who claim they are only interested in cocks, and have no interest at all in the men they are attached to. Never have I seen any of them here or IRL express with such repetitive over-the-top vehemence that men are "ugly", "gross", and "ew yucky" as the OP has. It sounds absurdly like a six year old boy talking about little girls on the playground. Seriously, who are we trying to convince here?
The terms "disassociation" and "overcompensation" spring to mind here, but then, I should probably consult a psychologist. :wink:
What makes you so sure he has no conflicts? From what I gather, he wants more than "a bit of cock", and he's expressed way more than a lack of attraction. Let's stop minimizing and spinning the argument our own way, shall we? And if "he's worked it out already", what's the point of the thread? Rationalizations can be very "comfy", btw.He has no conflicts, he wants a bit of cock, but isn't attracted to males. He's worked it out already for himself, he just needs to find the best way of achieving this in a way that he finds comfy.
And to be clear, I said in my first post he "may have some internal conflicts". It was only his subsequent vehement denials that convinced me beyond a shadow of doubt that he did.
Brilliant. The best of all possible worlds! Have your cake, eat it too. Fits the title too: "I'm not gay but . . . "... I suggest a trans possibly.
Howevah, take off the clothes, the padding, and the make up, and what have you got? Surprise, A MAN!!!
Does anybody besides me see the potential for more rationalization and denial in this approach?
Hey, guess what? I just realized "illusion" rhymes with "delusion".
Again. I never said he has emotional problems, did I? Then again, how are you so sure he doesn't?No conflict at all, he has no emotional problems. He knows what he wants.
Hill, much as I always appreciate your input, I felt compelled to emphasize the second line of your post. Not that it makes any difference; people will naturally glom onto the explanation that fits their rationalizations and self-justifications. For the vast majority of men in this predicament, e.g. the OP and many of the responders in this thread, plus many, many more men on this board, I suspect they'll stick to the first line. I'd also like to suggest that this kind of denial may have less to do with denying their feelings for other men, than avoiding the stigma associated with engaging in homosexual activity, and submissive homosexual activity in particular.OK some straight men do in fact have a penis fetish, they may just like them to look at or play with or want to have them do more than that to them. And yet they remain straight men.
And then there is a whole range of "straight" men who hide behind the notion of having a penis fetish in order to avoid dealing with their actual feelings towards other men.
Be clear on which of these two kinds of men you happen to be and then enjoy your life.
I also feel obliged to point out that having a fetish for an inantimate object like eyeglasses is a far cry from fetishizing a sexual organ and trying to detach it from its life source, i.e. a flesh and blood human male.
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