Improper TSA pat downs

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Just go through the machine, let it scan you and provide the TSA official an image that doesn't show any details or take any measurements, and nobody ever has to worry about the dreaded "bad touch". Plain & simple. BTW, the TSA agent can have you detained and arrested by an armed security officer who are on duty at the same time. So telling them that you're going to sue them or put them in jail for "touching you", when you've already made it a point to make their job difficult by not going through the scanner in the first place, isn't a good look. http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/programs/aso_faq.shtm

Lastly, I can think of many other ways to make a statement that wouldn't cost me my right to fly and $11,000. Pick your battles wisely, people.
 
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Well, I got the screening- this guy grabbed my ass and with the back of his hand right up the zipper. It was weird cause he was uncomfortable and while I love being felt up it was weird in public at 6:00 AM. They looked at in my wasteline and again- right up the inner thigh. I fly every week, I kind of understand it- but I think they need to re-think this, with the advancment in scanning- this seem un-necessary. Sad part is I had enough electrions to probably build a weapon, they didn't even look at it. Seem like we can come up with a better system
 

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I fly frequently, I post over 200,000 miles a year on OneWorld Alliance airlines (AA, BA, Cathay Pacific). It is very easy to avoid the new pat down procedures, go through the full body scan! Passengers that do not want to go through the full body scanners are required to do the extensive pat down. If you don't like it drive, or take a train, bus, or ship. But please quit whining about your civil rights being violated by TSA.

Flying commercial aircraft is not a right, it is a privilege.

As a passenger on a commercial flight I do have the expectation that the carrier and government has done everything they can to make it a safe flight. I remember flying the months after 9/11, full luggage searches and multiple pat downs were common around the world. I use to take an AA 777 home to the US frequently. Getting into the airport required tight security, and then before we boarded they checked every passengers carry-on luggage by emptying it out on a table. Then they patted down every passenger right as they enter the jet way. Every time we collected our luggage mine, and everyone else I knew on the flight had their checked luggage tagged as being searched before loading by security.

This is different and dangerous world, yes it would be nice it these security measures were not needed, but they are. I am glad they now take this seriously, pre 9/11 the security screeners in large US cities where fast food rejects. Many screeners were making minimum wage, hell McDonalds in many cities pays more than minimum wage. I am glad to see that the TSA has professionalized this function in our airports.

If I thought it would get me through airport security any faster I would be willing to go through naked.

I propose 3 lines for TSA security checks.
  1. Express lane where seasoned travelers go through the lane naked.
  2. Full body scanner lane for the modest seasoned traveler.
  3. Third lane would be for people that refuse the body scanner, it would be a line to board a Greyhound Bus. Those passengers can sing the Greyhound song "Its got to be the going not the getting their that's good!" all the way on there during the stinky 30 hour bus ride.
 
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I heard the TSA is going to start a pay site on the web. It will be a direct link to any of the scanning machines in use in the country. Welcome to the new way of camming. Can not understand the big deal of a scan. No face to face contact, your not asked to remove any clothing, and there not posted to a big board for everyone to see. Just remember, as your plane goes down in flames, don't go thinking "Damn i wish they were still doing the scans."
 

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Just remember, as your plane goes down in flames, don't go thinking "Damn i wish they were still doing the scans."

Nah.

The plane's going down in flames due to no maintenance on the plane itself since all the profits are going to fill pockets.

So much for airport safety.
Damn Chinese parts.

I heard the TSA is going to start a pay site on the web. It will be a direct link to any of the scanning machines in use in the country. Welcome to the new way of camming.

Are they going to give a discount on all the travel toothpaste, mouth wash and travel kits on Ebay they've been selling, or Points to use for cam scan action?

Honestly - they should charge anyone who mis-uses one of these scanners as a Sex Offender, and require them to be put on "The List"

The list is so jacked up you can even get on it for Peeing on the side of the road.
SO....if your improperly looking at people through the scanner, your a candidate for the sex offender registry.
 
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If I were subjected to one of those pat downs, I would make it very clear that if they touched me inappropriately I would be seeing them in court. I have never been afraid of standing up to anyone, and a security guard going on an ego trip certainly doesn't scare me (I'll refuse a body scanner too). There is a point that you have to draw the line. Feeling up people's genitals is past that line. We have a right to privacy and molestation is against the law.

Period.

Although... seeing the surprise on the security person's face might be worth it. ;)


Okay, wait till the first time their is an "incident" because someone was not patted down or screened fully. Then people will bitch because TSA did not do their job and screen THOROUGHLY. People seem to have forgotten 9/11.
 

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I've been thinking it'd be kinda fun to work up a big old hard-on before heading into the full body scanner. Just give that poor bum who's been staring at the screen a little thrill.

Only problem: getting myself worked up when going through security I'm feeling totally annoyed and vulnerable.
 

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I dont have an opinion about the new scanners or
pat down procedures in the US yet;
havent looked into it in sufficient details.

However, thinking these "enhanced" security mesures could
have prevented actions like those on 9/11 is erroneous.
The methods used by the hijackers that day would have successfully
circumvented these new security mesures.

They did not carry any explosives, they did not carry any firearms,
they did not even carry much in the way of knives...
they got onboard with very small, easily concealable,
razor sharp, box cutter blades.

These new mesures in place now are not adressing
the kind of threat faced on 9/11. If they get as far
as the TSA check points, a similar attack would
very likely be successful today.


Maybe it is justified, maybe it isn't... as I said, I dont know yet
but the comparative with 9/11, in this case, is not appropriate.

You must not spend too much time onboard airplanes. Terrorists with box cutters are not going to successfully hijack an airplane AND gain access to the cockpit. The mentality prior to 9/11 was to COMPLY with a hijackers demands. Today hijackers with boxcutters would most likely be immediately overpowered by passengers and crewmembers. 9/11 was a one shot deal... I honestly don't think it could ever successfully be carried out again IN THE SAME FASION.
 

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If the US would stop being the world's bully, these kinds of fears and threats of retaliation would end and so would the LONG lines at airport security points and invasive patdowns and xrays.
 

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What do u think about them? I feel like some people in here will opt for the pat down just to get felt up on lol, some may even pop hard-ons.
 

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Now see..this is what I don't get. I thought you Republicans were "pro-security". "Freedom isn't free", "You're either with us or against us", "Never forget 9/11", "Democrats are soft on national security"...WTF? Here is the government doing what they are supposed to do - protect us - and the Republicans and FOX News are all up in arms screaming about invasion of privacy!?!? As usual - all they do is complain, complain, complain, fearmonger, confuse, exaggerate - and OFFER NO ALTERNATIVES!!!!!!!!

I say - pat me down, x-ray my ass, do whatever you need to do - I don't care - just get me on my flight and in the air on time. All you wussies better not ever travel to Israel or any other country that takes it's air travel, security, and citizens seriously. If you don't want to be patted down - then walk, ortake the train, or ride the bus - but shut the hell up.

My, my, My! Aren't we testy?

It's not about that. It's about a government that has gotten too big. I want the government to keep their nose out of my business and as uninvolved in my life as possible. Just because I've bought an airline ticket does not mean that I have also entered to win a grand prize of government induced molestation and a free dose of cancer. We HIRE the government and we FIRE the government. They can take their hands out of my pants and my wallet right now.

And I'm not a Republican. I'm an "Independent." To vote along party lines and the entire party system is simply moronic. It's only there to facilitate vast generalizations to members of the herd like yourself who won't bother trying to understand the underlying reasons behind problems and the various solutions.
 

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Someone should wear a jumbo rubber cock ring, take a viagra, and then wear either nothing or something like ergowear or tulio with an extreme, pointing-out pouch,
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