Incels...are Men In Trouble? Or Just A Small Subset Of Men?

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This is a long form read on “incels” (involuntary celibate) that’s intriguing, fascinating and incredibly disturbing. During the read I was reminded of some posters here on LPSG.

Their hatred for women along with their warped view of the world is scary. They’re looking at women through a hateful prism and prison of their own creation. They believe their destructive brand of pseudoscience that supposedly explains all of society based on looks and suck size. It’s astounding. These incelsbelieve plastic surgery is all that stands between them and the unrelenting fawning from beautiful women. They believe the best life and jobs are reserved for those men who have the right look. Never in their mind does it occur that women might not sleep with them because they’re just assholes, uninteresting or lacking confidence.

I would love to know your thoughts (especially the women of LPSG).

A few excerpts:

...He discovered terms like “oneitis,” a disease of romantic obsession that enslaves men, and “hypergamy,” an evolutionary principle that pushes women to seek mates above their status. In a post-monogamy society, that means a tiny percentage of genetically superior alpha guys hoard most hetero sex. There were infographics to back it up, Tinder experiments with precise data. Beyond that, there was biology: Genetic wiring controls most everything about life, the forums’ users argued, ensuring the misery of people like him.

The forums’ posters blamed their plight on women’s rising social power. Once upon a time, women without careers married for stability; today they inevitably spent their 20s riding a “cock carousel” of the hottest guys they could land, settling for an ugly or average-looking man only when they were old and used, i.e., above 30. Even then, women could hardly be depended on for loyalty. Showered with attention on dating apps, favored by divorce courts, beloved by HR diversity initiatives, women had become a privileged class. The forums rarely mentioned wage gaps, pregnancy discrimination, or sexual violence, except in jest....

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The sight of certain women began to bother him. When a woman he hired turned out to be beautiful, he fumed online: “An 8/10 girl works for me since today. I’m going to dominate the hell out of her. Trust me, I’m going to kill her confidence.” Women with babies ignited anger, too. “Every time I pass by a pram, it fills me with disgust to know that she has ruined her body and chose to reproduce with another guy,” he wrote. Other users responded with gifs: angry WWE faces, a cackling Nic Cage. “Seeing women taking care of their sons is the only situation in which I don’t hate them,” agreed one user named Biebercel.

The posters called themselves “incels,” short for “involuntarily celibate.” On one forum where Truth4lie posted — Lookism, which succeeded Sluthate — there are 10,000 registered users. They were on other websites, too (incels.me, incels.co, r/braincels), although it’s impossible to know who was posting on multiple accounts. Incels called women like the one Truth4lie had hired “Stacies.” Alpha men had a name, too. They were called “Chads.”

You know, those guys who are “praised day and night for their top-tier genetics, making a shit-ton of money, getting insane amounts of validation, never having to worry about paying the rent or any of that bullshit; all they think about is their next football match and coming home and having a threesome with two supermodels, supermodels that puke at the thought of them touching you.” That’s how one incel with a Pepe frog as his avatar described Chads, posting a picture of Lucky Blue Smith and Jordan Barrett backstage at a Balmain fashion show.


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Oh wow. I didn’t search for “incel” before posting. Good lord that thread.

I don't think it's a huge group of people in this "incel" community, but it's large enough to disturb me.
 

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I created this thread because I recently read this article and because that other thread we were posting in reminded me of this mindset.

It's a relevant and important conversation.

I just figured there were some relevant points made in that other thread that got locked, so I wanted to share it for the sake of the topic.
 

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while very disturbing in general content, it is not an entirely inaccurate description of the reality for many men. I always hear woman say they want a 'nice funny guy, then end up getting wet-in-the panties about some muscle bound Neanderthal type of guy. (I'm thinking of the guy from Game of thrones that played drogo, and went on to play Aquaman--forgot his name)--
 
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while very disturbing in general content, it is not an entirely inaccurate description of the reality for many men. I always hear woman say they want a 'nice funny guy, then end up getting wet-in-the panties about some muscle bound Neanderthal type of guy. (I'm thinking of the guy from Game of thrones that played drogo, and went on to play Aquaman--forgot his name)--

Being muscular has nothing to do with if a person is nice or not. The fuck?
 

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If I'm not getting laid i dont go around hating men for it. Maybe I need to change the vibes I'm giving out. Did I have resting bitch face and appear not worth talking to? I mean there are so many reasons one might not be getting sex. Careers, stress and just life in general can make that happen to anyone.

Why is it my fault because some dude doesnt have game?
 

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I don't know much about this, but I think that men like this have ALWAYS been around, but we now have the internet and social media which gives literally anyone a platform.

When you think about it, isn't everyone an "incel"? I mean, isn't it the default state? We aren't entitled to sex or intimate relationships, so...yeah....default state...but these people do fully believe they are entitled, and I think that's very, very weird.
 
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Being muscular has nothing to do with if a person is nice or not. The fuck?
You are missing the point entirely, I am not judging they guys at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. That what some woman (it seems more than a few) say one thing, and are drawn to something exactly opposite of what they say. I've seen this time and time again.

Like, I can't understand why woman get so excited by seeing a guy pop his pecks (there is a commercial where a guy flex his pecks and the woman encourage him to do it more).-- I don't get why it is exciting. (I don't find gals poping their pecks attractive either, though)--

So when these guys on the web site go off on things, in a very angry and unfiltered way, it is a reality they deal with. What they fail to understand is that they need to also bring more to the table too, and invest in self-improvement too.
 
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You are missing the point entirely, I am not judging they guys at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. That what some woman (it seems more than a few) say one thing, and are drawn to something exactly opposite of what they say. I've seen this time and time again.

Like, I can't understand why woman get so excited by seeing a guy pop his pecks (there is a commercial where a guy flex his pecks and the woman encourage him to do it more).-- I don't get why it is exciting. (I don't find gals poping their pecks attractive either, though)--

So when these guys on the web site go off on things, in a very angry and unfiltered way, it is a reality they deal with. What they fail to understand is that they need to also bring more to the table too, and invest in self-improvement too.

You're equating being a nice/good person as someone who isn't muscular. I am well aware of what you're talking about in how some women say they want someone nice, and then repeatedly choose to be with people that treat them poorly. What I'm pointing out is being muscular has jack shit to do with how nice, pleasant, good, whatever a person is. Being muscular has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
 

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Pffft. I like tall, skinny nerds. They've likely never been to the gym. But we can talk about theoretical physics and that's way more sexy to me than some built guy flexing his man tits.

That assumption about women wanting pecs over wit is just bullshit. Sure a few do. But that's like me saying men dont want an intellectual woman. He wants a dumb blonde instead. Wrong. I know far more men who appreciate intellect in a woman than her appearing to look like a trophy wife.
 

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You're equating being a nice/good person as someone who isn't muscular.

Sorry if that was your interpretation. I was trying to find the opposite of of 'skinny nerd'(as goddess put it)- ( or equally out-of-shape guy)- -- But I do wish you could explain the 'popping the pecks' thing to me!

I've been doing some research on this topic (over the last whole 10 minutes) and it appears the term was coined almost 10 years ago. I feel like I've heard of it before, like in the last few years, probably on some HBO or other 'adult' themed show. I'm not sure if we can post links here though. I think this was even a topic (well, brought up) on the Bill Maher HBO show. I want to find that militant, anger filled forum that the OP copied though....I'd like to read the unfiltered thoughts of those guys directly.
 

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That assumption about women wanting pecs over wit is just bullshit

That is what many woman say... Then their eyes glaze over when they see a guy doing it. There are 2 commercials where a guy does it and the woman all but swoon. John Cena for hefty bags, and a State Farm Insurance (google State Farm, let them speak" featuring Terry Crews (very talented Ex-football player that is even better as an actor...he was great in "Blended")
 

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Incels... What to say about incels...

They are kinda full of shit. They are very entitled and not at all honest about what they really want. A lot of them say that they just want love and any woman will do, but love from a woman is easy to get. Especially if she is unnattractive and not used to male attention. What they really want is the social validation and status boost of being with hot women. For the most part all the incels could get a gf pretty easily if they tried going after women on the same level as themselves, but they won't do that.

You know who has it tough? Femcels. They genuinely want a relationship but because women are judged more harshly for their looks than men, their ugliness is a real impediment to their goal of coupling up.
 
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That is what many woman say... Then their eyes glaze over when they see a guy doing it. There are 2 commercials where a guy does it and the woman all but swoon. John Cena for hefty bags, and a State Farm Insurance (google State Farm, let them speak" featuring Terry Crews (very talented Ex-football player that is even better as an actor...he was great in "Blended")

I predicted your presence. Not you specifically, just the crap you're posting in this thread.

Sometimes I hate being right.
 

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That is what many woman say... Then their eyes glaze over when they see a guy doing it. There are 2 commercials where a guy does it and the woman all but swoon. John Cena for hefty bags, and a State Farm Insurance (google State Farm, let them speak" featuring Terry Crews (very talented Ex-football player that is even better as an actor...he was great in "Blended")

If I dropped my top for most straight men they are going to glaze over. Does that mean they only care about breasts? No. That guy might also love talking about blackhole event horizons with me. We like what we like. It means nothing more than that.