lengthening by stretches is a long term proposition, perhaps inch/year. I never did anything for girth but lost none in gaining four inches by stretches alone. From conversations with those who have used mostly jelqs for girth, half inch every six to twelve months may be a reasonable expectation for girth increases. I state again since this often asked, I never lost girth in gaining length by stretches alone, so do not fear that you wil get a longer skinnier dick by stretches alone.