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Folks... I follow mostly science based articles and videos concerning covid. One of the best is Dr John Campbell on YouTube. He's a well known doctor who teaches Pulmonary Nursing in the UK. He rarely gets political in his daily global updates. He does not "fear monger". He explains the daily situation with charts and statistics the best he can. Over the past several weeks though, he's become deeply worried about India. It's just now that the major news outlets are sounding the alarm. It's bad. It's really really bad.

Many nations refused to close flights to and from India. Why? India produces the MAJORITY of the worlds drugs. They are a huge exporter of goods and services. That means corporations are exchanging workers on a regular basis. The US is one of those that didn't shut down it flights as well. The UK finally just announced it. Well, the covid variant in India that is TEN TIMES MORE TRANSMISSIBLE than the variants in most countries has now spread. We have a recorded case in San Francisco California. And these variants are like cock roaches: If you see one, there are hundreds more.

I don't know what to say other than: Thousands are dying so fast in India that they can't burn the bodies fast enough. I'm tired of the political optics of this tragedy (as is Dr Campbell). Continue wearing your mask, social distance, and get your vaccine. Please do these things. India is coming.
 

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Von der Leyen: EU preparing ‘rapid’ assistance to COVID-hit India
EU says emergency response center coordinating on oxygen and medicine
The EU is preparing rapid assistance to help India as it tackles a spiralling COVID-19 resurgence, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Sunday.

“Alarmed by the epidemiological situation in India. We are ready to support,” she wrote on Twitter. “The EU is pooling resources to respond rapidly to India’s request for assistance.”

European Commissioner for Crisis Management Janez Lenarcic wrote on social media that the EU would do its “upmost” to mobilize assistance. He said the bloc’s Emergency Response Coordination Center is working with EU governments to provide oxygen and medicine.
Von der Leyen: EU preparing ‘rapid’ assistance to COVID-hit India
 

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This is good news! But... I wished we all could have started sooner.
"And a new and potentially concerning variant first identified in India late last year, known as B.1.617, has become dominant in the state of Maharashtra. B.1.617 has drawn attention because it contains two mutations that have been linked to increased transmissibility and an ability to evade immune protection. It has now been detected in 20 other countries."

India’s massive COVID surge puzzles scientists
 

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'Double mutant': What are the risks of India's new Covid-19 variant
March 25, 2021 Artcle Excerpts:

Indian genome scientists have detected a so-called "double variant" of the novel coronavirus.
Mutations in the spike gene can make the virus inherently "better" at infecting people or can help the virus to escape neutralising antibodies...Dr. Khamil says unlike some other variants, India's new double variant is not likely to be more deadly or more inherently transmissible, but that more data is needed to be sure.

Much more worrying is the UK or the Kent variant (also known as B.1.1.7), which is now dominant in much of Britain and has spread to more than 50 countries.
A total of 736 of the 10,787 samples sequenced in India have been found positive for this variant.


U.K. Coronavirus Variant Is Significantly More Deadly, Says New Study
March 15, 2021 Article Excerpt:

“The B.1.1.7 variant is more transmissible, and our research provides strong evidence that is also causes more severe illness. This should serve as a warning to other countries that they need to remain vigilant against B.1.1.7, which has already spread to over 90 countries worldwide,” said Davies.





 
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This shit's been brewing for weeks btw. It's not some big surprise. Indian PM Mohdi has woefully underestimated the virus and has instead been focussed on mass rallies ahead of upcoming elections and the government allowed the vast Kumbh festival to proceed.

As to the precise claim that the Indian variant is "10 times more infectious", this is unproven as simply not enough data has been collected although primary investigations suggest this behaves in a similar way to the South African variant.

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India's Kumbh festival attracts big crowds amid devastating second Covid wave
 

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With such a densely populated part of the world, it's going to be challenging to get folks vaccinated.
CDC says you don't vaccinate somebody who already has it. And they have to wait 90 days after they recover to get it.
Interesting to see how it pans out.

Also, the vaccines are available now, because people aren't getting them here much anymore.
"Mass vaccination sites" are being closed here due to lack of interest/demand.
 

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With such a densely populated part of the world, it's going to be challenging to get folks vaccinated.
CDC says you don't vaccinate somebody who already has it. And they have to wait 90 days after they recover to get it.
Interesting to see how it pans out.

Also, the vaccines are available now, because people aren't getting them here much anymore.
"Mass vaccination sites" are being closed here due to lack of interest/demand.
I think part of the difficulty with Indian vaccines is that the US government has been preventing the export of vital materials to fuel India's (very large) home-grown pharmaceutical industry...

See below...
 

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Clearly English sarcasm doesn't travel soo well. The US has been pushed, rather late in the day, to make this release of materials.

"Vaccine nationalism", ie the holding onto vaccines or their components disrupting supply chains and commercial deals because of "national interest" is not a good look. But, you know, so long as US citizens have the right to have a vaccine that they don't take up when people around the world are crying out for them...
 

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Clearly English sarcasm doesn't travel soo well. The US has been pushed, rather late in the day, to make this release of materials.

"Vaccine nationalism", ie the holding onto vaccines or their components disrupting supply chains and commercial deals because of "national interest" is not a good look. But, you know, so long as US citizens have the right to have a vaccine that they don't take up when people around the world are crying out for them...
Didn't get the reaction you hoped for?
 

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Didn't get the reaction you hoped for?
Don't pop a hernia, grandad, but your country is far from perfect.

Pretending that bowing to international pressure in the face of a massive health crisis on the other side of the planet is some kind of amazing act of generosity is... just... bollocks. Sorry. :)
 

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So we can say then officially: WE ALL FUCKED UP. The "spreading 10 times faster" really is just the reality of the government approved Kumbh Festival that took place. Much like our stupid Sturgis Rally we had in North Dakota. And before y'all laugh about the comparison, folks that attend compare it to a religious event. North Dakota got hammered from covid per capita.

Brazil is getting worse but is overshadowed by the India coverage.
Mexico same.

Bottom line, we all fucked up. Even after my second shot has worked it's way thru my system, my wife and I will be wearing masks and washing our hands often for the foreseeable future in public settings. Why? We did not get colds or flu for a whole year! First time in our lives.
 
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Suggestions are now that the Indian government has under-reported Covid deaths by as much as 100%.

There was a woman in the post office this afternoon, she's a local nurse and of Indian extraction, tearfully sending money to relatives to pay for medical treatment over there. :/

India Covid: Delhi builds makeshift funeral pyres as deaths climb
 
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Suggestions are now that the Indian government has under-reported Covid deaths by as much as 100%.

There was a woman in the post office this afternoon, she's a local nurse and of Indian extraction, tearfully sending money to relatives to pay for medical treatment over there. :/

India Covid: Delhi builds makeshift funeral pyres as deaths climb

Watching the stories unfold of folks driving their sick family member around the county looking for open beds. Many are in the back seats hooked up to an oxygen tank they bought on the black market.

Modi is India's Trump. Just like Bolsonaro is Brazil's. Both had big rallies. Both denied the seriousness. Both should be held accountable by their people.
 
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So we can say then officially: WE ALL FUCKED UP. The "spreading 10 times faster" really is just the reality of the government approved Kumbh Festival that took place. Much like our stupid Sturgis Rally we had in North Dakota. And before y'all laugh about the comparison, folks that attend compare it to a religious event. North Dakota got hammered from covid per capita.

Brazil is getting worse but is overshadowed by the India coverage.
Mexico same.

Bottom line, we all fucked up. Even after my second shot has worked it's way thru my system, my wife and I will be wearing masks and washing our hands often for the foreseeable future in public settings. Why? We did not get colds or flu for a whole year! First time in our lives.


FYI

Sturgis is in South Dakota
 

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