Insights into vaginal orgasm

[joshuareese]

Dear Members

My wife never had an vaginal orgasm but still says that clitoral orgasms are bigger when she is being stimulated by my cock or dildo simultaneously.

We many times talked about why this is but she cant really say the reason or ever recall the actual pleasure zones that are involved in her vagina during orgasm. Neither can she tell if any movement in the vagina is started as otherwise would considered related to a vaginal orgasm but perhaps also could initiate during a clitoral.

We therefore have 3 questions somebody would hopefully be kind enough to address. The first one is closely related to the above issue while the other question emerged from that.

1: Is my wife's orgasmic behavior; getting stronger orgasms if being stimulated in the vagina, something that other members relate to and is your vaginas more sensitive in a good way during the seconds of the clitoral orgasm than up to?

We are also very curious to know if it is possible for you to tell or feel your vagina during the clitoral orgasm make any kind of contractions or movement?

2:
My wife has never been afraid to admit that the feeling she gets from a cock or toy inside her vagina is literarily none existent.
She says she "feels the movement and a slight stretch during the intercourse but feels no greater warm, exiting pleasure that could arouse her even more"

We therefore would like to know if any of you members also can related to the non-existince feeling/pleasure when being stimulated vaginally?


Hopefully someone will take these questions seriously because at least for my wife and I these are some of the questions that could giver us a better understanding of her vagina and its ways.

Since this is LPSG i must ad that we have several small, large and extra large ones in our box of toys so it is not because of her unwillingness to experiment that she never had an vaginal orgasm.

Furthermore I like to ad that we have a very loving and pleasurable sex life that could not be better so these questions are not coming from a couple in crisis only a couple with the will to learn

 

[joshuareese]

Anyone?

 

[B_subgirrl]

I'm not sure what you're asking with your first question.

With the second . . . does she literally feel nothing, or does she not find the feeling particularly pleasurable?

 

[Enid]

1: Is my wife's orgasmic behavior; getting stronger orgasms if being stimulated in the vagina, something that other members relate to?

I can't relate to this, as my clitoral orgasms are just as strong when only my clitoris is being stimulated as they are when both my vagina and clitoris are stimulated.

We are also very curious to know if it is possible for you to tell or feel your vagina during the clitoral orgasm make any kind of contractions or movement?

Yes, I feel the contractions.

We therefore would like to know if any of you members also can related to the non-existince feeling/pleasure when being stimulated vaginally?

This I can't relate to either as I do feel a lot of pleasure from vaginal stimulation, and I have vaginal orgasms without much clitoral stimulation at all. Not every single time I have sex, but more often than not these days. Sometimes it comes (pun intended) almost embarrasingly quick, other times it takes me a while to get there. It depends. Additonally, about half the time I have a vaginal orgasm I can have multiples, the other half the time one is all I can manage.

Multiple clitoral orgasms are a piece of cake though. It is very rare that I am done after one.

 

[joshuareese]

Dear Subgirrl and Enid

Thank you so much for the reply it has been very learning.
In regards to Enids last question "if she literally feels nothing, or not find the feeling particularly pleasurable" We like to ad that she do feel a friction and a pressure. It is not by any means painful but is it just not good enough for any kind of excitement to occur from it.

 

[AlteredEgo]

My guess would be that pressure inside the vagina pulls in just the right way to cause extra engorgement in her clitoris, or insertion causes her to contract, creating extra engorgement in her clitoris. When I clench, or bear down, my clit fills with more blood, and becomes very hard, but much more sensitive. I get more clitoral pleasure when something is inserted, even if that something doesn't move much, because I tend to grip anything inserted.

 

[AlteredEgo]

One last thought...

Is your wife very young? Twelve years ago, when I was 19, I don't think I cold yet have vaginal orgasms at all. That didn't start until I discovered them on my own, with an enormous, bet very, very squishy toy, a few years later. It was longer than I needed to put pressure on my cul de sac, (the end of the vagina, past the cervix) but soft enough to apply extra pressure without hurting. Nudging that spot with that big, floppy toy, got me off so fucking hard. My boyfriend at the time had a really long cock, a little longer than the toy, but his erections were too hard to produce the same result.

Not too long after that, my g spot became sensitive. I'd known where it was for a long time and so had my boyfriend, but it didn't make any difference to stimulate it. I knew it was being touched; I didn't care. One day I was rubbing it really insistently while watching some really sexy anal porn, and it just exploded for me. There was a long period of ambivalence, followed by a brief build up of pleasure, and then POW! Orgasm to beat out 5 clitoral orgasms, but not as good as that cul de sac orgasm. For years, I was unable to give myself a g spot orgasm again, but my lovers could give them to me. It wasn't long before my lovers could give me cul de sac orgasms too.

Lots of spots inside my pussy can be stimulated to orgasm, but if it were not for my love of masturbation, and getting older, none of it would happen. The reason I ask how old your wife is, is that a disproportionate number of my female friends could not be stimulated to vaginal orgasm until mid-twenties. A few could not even have clitoral orgasms until their twenties either, not from masturbation, oral, vibrators, or anything. Maybe she just has to give it time, and grow into her pleasure. I am 31 and just in the last two years started having anterior fornix orgasms. (I need to be really intoxicated, either very drunk, or a little high from pot, or I can't have an anterior fornix orgasm at all!)

 

[D_Elvetta Boombooms]

1: Is my wife's orgasmic behavior; getting stronger orgasms if being stimulated in the vagina, something that other members relate to and is your vaginas more sensitive in a good way during the seconds of the clitoral orgasm than up to?

my kitty is def. more sensitive during clitoral orgasm, but so is my whole body I don't find my orgasms are stronger if I'm stimulated in two ways tho. The feeling I get from an orgasm caused by many points of stimulation is different than just clitoral or w/e, but equally awesome.

We are also very curious to know if it is possible for you to tell or feel your vagina during the clitoral orgasm make any kind of contractions or movement?

absolutely

We therefore would like to know if any of you members also can related to the non-existince feeling/pleasure when being stimulated vaginally?

i can sorta relate to this since I've never had a vaginal orgasm. I won't say I receive no pleasure or that I feel nothing, but nothing I've ever used that was average in size (man or toy) has really done it for me with penetration. Larger partners feel different to me and it's like a switch inside was turned on, but I still don't orgasm. I want to orgasm, and feel like I should be climaxing because the sensation is so good, but I can never seem to go over the edge. I figure I'm just wired a bit diff. than most peeps, and that's ok. Girth is something I've never had issue with and find to be needed for vaginal stuff, but I find deep sex to be very painful.

 

[D_Elvetta Boombooms]

Not too long after that, my g spot became sensitive. I'd known where it was for a long time and so had my boyfriend, but it didn't make any difference to stimulate it. I knew it was being touched; I didn't care. One day I was rubbing it really insistently while watching some really sexy anal porn, and it just exploded for me. There was a long period of ambivalence, followed by a brief build up of pleasure, and then POW! Orgasm to beat out 5 clitoral orgasms, but not as good as that cul de sac orgasm. For years, I was unable to give myself a g spot orgasm again, but my lovers could give them to me. It wasn't long before my lovers could give me cul de sac orgasms too.

Early in arousal I can feel myself rubbing the g-spot, but it's pretty dull. Later on it feels like tickle torture where it's too much to just target alone! I think it might be one of those things you have to become conditioned to.

but if it were not for my love of masturbation, and getting older, none of it would happen. The reason I ask how old your wife is, is that a disproportionate number of my female friends could not be stimulated to vaginal orgasm until mid-twenties. A few could not even have clitoral orgasms until their twenties either, not from masturbation, oral, vibrators, or anything. Maybe she just has to give it time, and grow into her pleasure. I am 31 and just in the last two years started having anterior fornix orgasms. (I need to be really intoxicated, either very drunk, or a little high from pot, or I can't have an anterior fornix orgasm at all!)

i hope this holds true for me as I get older

about the anterior fornix stuff: Until I came here and started reading, I had no idea what was going on with longer guys and sex with me. Deep sex has always been something I find agonizing and can almost end a session if the guy slips up. My bf is super sweet and cautious about his depth, but every once in a while he'll get too rammy or we're in a bad position and I just feel this snap inside followed by a huge ache. It's the strangest sensation I've ever had and will fade slowly, but hours later I can feel my insides twitch below and to the right of my bellybutton (a bit like trying to stand on a trembling leg).

Def. not my cup of tea when it comes to penetration, but do you think it helps to use substances because it sorta numbs out the bad sensations and heightens the good ones?

 

[AlteredEgo]

Early in arousal I can feel myself rubbing the g-spot, but it's pretty dull. Later on it feels like tickle torture where it's too much to just target alone! I think it might be one of those things you have to become conditioned to.




i hope this holds true for me as I get older

about the anterior fornix stuff: Until I came here and started reading, I had no idea what was going on with longer guys and sex with me. Deep sex has always been something I find agonizing and can almost end a session if the guy slips up. My bf is super sweet and cautious about his depth, but every once in a while he'll get too rammy or we're in a bad position and I just feel this snap inside followed by a huge ache. It's the strangest sensation I've ever had and will fade slowly, but hours later I can feel my insides twitch below and to the right of my bellybutton (a bit like trying to stand on a trembling leg).

Def. not my cup of tea when it comes to penetration, but do you think it helps to use substances because it sorta numbs out the bad sensations and heightens the good ones?

My husband and I have been having sex for a few years now. He knows me pretty well, and very rarely bumps my cervix hard. What I think you experience is the sensation of a glans getting under your cervix , and into your posterior fornix, not the anterior. For you, it seems any contact with the face of your cervix is unpleasant. For me, rubbing is okay, bumping is not. When I first became sexually active, 16 years ago, there was no kind of cervical contact I could tolerate. Any contact at all caused a shock of pain I could feel along my uterus, tubes, and ovaries. Sex over. I imagine that's my equivalent of getting kicked in the balls.

I'm not sure about the substances. It sounds like a reasonable hypothesis that they make less pleasant sensations less noticeable. If I ever figure it out for sure, I'll let you know.

 

[B_subgirrl]

Dear Subgirrl and Enid

Thank you so much for the reply it has been very learning.
In regards to Enids last question "if she literally feels nothing, or not find the feeling particularly pleasurable" We like to ad that she do feel a friction and a pressure. It is not by any means painful but is it just not good enough for any kind of excitement to occur from it.

Good! If she had no feeling at all, I would have been somewhat worried.

It's perfectly normal to be more sensitive to one form of stimulation than another. We all have different spots that work for us. Don't stress too much about what does and doesn't work. Remember the stuff that does and incorporate it into your sex play. Don't give up on the spots that don't yet work for her, but don't worry too much about their absence either. Vaginal orgasms (or any specific kind of orgasm) aren't some kind of holy grail that will make the world perfect if found. Someone who doesn't have them is not necessarily missing out.

Lots of spots inside my pussy can be stimulated to orgasm, but if it were not for my love of masturbation, and getting older, none of it would happen. The reason I ask how old your wife is, is that a disproportionate number of my female friends could not be stimulated to vaginal orgasm until mid-twenties. A few could not even have clitoral orgasms until their twenties either, not from masturbation, oral, vibrators, or anything. Maybe she just has to give it time, and grow into her pleasure. I am 31 and just in the last two years started having anterior fornix orgasms. (I need to be really intoxicated, either very drunk, or a little high from pot, or I can't have an anterior fornix orgasm at all!)

I second this. Although I've always been multi-orgasmic and have always had vaginal orgasms, I've found more spots that work for me and learned more about how to make them work as I've gotten older. My mid spot was a recent acquisition - discovered that one last year. I still don't react to g spot stimulation (I swear my g spot is non-existent).

 

[Not_Punny]

An interesting book is "Bonk; The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex" by Mary Roach. (I recently listened to it -- I am an Audible.com addict.)

An entire chapter is devoted to the subject of vaginal vs. clitoral orgasm, and includes the escapades of Napoleon Bonaparte's niece (grand-niece?), who orchestrated an operation to move her clitoris closer to her vagina opening so that she could experience "true orgasm" ("vaginal orgasm").

And here on LPSG, someone posted a thread recently, with a link to an interesting article about a recent experiment which puports that the vagina and clitoris have two entirely separate nerve paths.

My own OPINION is that the female apparatus is adaptable. And perhaps because men come in different shapes and sizes (and perhaps because nerves can be damaged in childbirth), the female was blessed with a variety of erogenous zones. I also believe that one can develop the neural pathways to different erogenous zones with practice and consistency, although this may take considerable time and effort. :tongue:

Unlike their male counterparts, some females fail to "play" with themselves during and after puberty, or only experiment in a very limited fashion. It is my OPINION that this can delay development of the neural pathways to their erogenous zones.

I could be very, very wrong on this, but there it is -- pure hyper-hypothesis.

In any case, my suggestion is to find out what porn/erotic literature fires up her brain, and then stimulate the erogenous zones that you want to "strengthen."

 

[Chaotica]

1: Is my wife's orgasmic behavior; getting stronger orgasms if being stimulated in the vagina, something that other members relate to and is your vaginas more sensitive in a good way during the seconds of the clitoral orgasm than up to?

Yes, my orgasm is stronger if my g-spot is also stimulated.
Not sure I understand the second part of question 1 ("is your vaginas more sensitive in a good way during the seconds of the clitoral orgasm than up to?")

We are also very curious to know if it is possible for you to tell or feel your vagina during the clitoral orgasm make any kind of contractions or movement?

Yes, I feel it contract during the clitoral orgasm.

We therefore would like to know if any of you members also can related to the non-existince feeling/pleasure when being stimulated vaginally?

I have had an experience with my cul de sac once vaginally but I'm not sure whether that was an orgasm. I screamed a lot but it didn't really feel like what a clit orgasm feels like.

 

[B_curiousme01]

I've only had two vagina O's during intercourse and remember them quite clearly. It feels totally different since most of the muscles in my body were involved. Both required clit stimulation at the same time. I can have a similar experience with the right toy. I do feel what's going on inside, but this type of climax is difficult for me to achieve. We have a great sex life and have tried all sorts of things. We just keep trying I hope one day she can achieve this experience. I think it's really awesome that you are aware of this and care enough to work on it.