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Yes, it bothers me on a certain level. I understand how a 20 year old thinks of himself as invincible, and it's also somewhat disturbing how people will do anything for 15 minutes of fame, not realizing that next week, next month, or next year they will be replaced by the new Johnny-come-lately. For those who say that it's their body, let them do whatever they want to it, I say that while that may be true, it also means that in the future I have to subsidize their medical expenses through higher insurance premiums. But the same goes for the obese and the smokers. It's my business with them, too, for the same reason. I have to subsidize their medical expenses, too.
 

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Not really. I live and let live. In my opinion it's stupid, but a lot of things are. I know of a guy who juices. He gets all swollen up but it doesn't last and he doesn't really workout. It seems pointless to me but I lift weights and don't put anything like that in my body.
 

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I'm conflicted because I really like the steroid look. I fucking love huge muscles. But I've lived long enough to have seen what too much of a good thing can do to your body. Friends I've looked up to having heart attacks and strokes in their late 30s and early 40s. One guy had several strokes and went from looking like a shredded hulk to looking like a big apple because he got off of the roids and had to completely stop working out. Hell, the experts in body training all say that one should not even begin his first cycle until his mid 30s, because before hand, the body is producing enough testosterone to build muscle, but the caveat is that you must lift seriously.
But the original question was if it "bothered" me to see a bunch of 20 year olds juicing. I can't help but worry about whether or not the guys will destroy themselves because they think that they aren't hot enough yet, but the reality is that they are already hot as fuck. I threw in the monetary effect because some people think of only money and how someone else's decisions affect one's own pocketbooks.
I think that the solution is to legalize it and have the users be monitored by a doctor for liver, kidney, and cardio functions.
 

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I don't care but I think it's stupid early 20's is too early to be on. Not enough training knowledge or experience to fully reap the benefits and using them so early enforces poor habits. Also, they probably didn't educate themselves on how to do it wisely and are setting themselves up for a major fuck-up down the road.
 

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The research speaks for itself - to risk killing yourself for vanity and "followers" and "likes" is crazy. Steroids work and we can all see the effects, but they carry serious risks and serious side effects (which you don't see on Insta... well, except the backne and the man-boobs):

Anabolic steroids linked to higher rates of premature death in men
 
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Not nearly as much as it bothers me that so many people eat like shit and treat their bodies like shit. I don't think it's the best option at 20. I don't think it's needed. I also don't think it's my business to tell them what to do with their bodies. Not my body, not my business.
 

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Not nearly as much as it bothers me that so many people eat like shit and treat their bodies like shit. I don't think it's the best option at 20. I don't think it's needed. I also don't think it's my business to tell them what to do with their bodies. Not my body, not my business.
Best answer yet. How many people are bothered by plates of food that is incredibly bad for you posted by people who are at best fat, but more than likely obese? What about their reduced life span? What about their health cost subsidized by people who take care of their bodies?
 

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I'm conflicted because I really like the steroid look. I fucking love huge muscles. But I've lived long enough to have seen what too much of a good thing can do to your body. Friends I've looked up to having heart attacks and strokes in their late 30s and early 40s. One guy had several strokes and went from looking like a shredded hulk to looking like a big apple because he got off of the roids and had to completely stop working out. Hell, the experts in body training all say that one should not even begin his first cycle until his mid 30s, because before hand, the body is producing enough testosterone to build muscle, but the caveat is that you must lift seriously.
But the original question was if it "bothered" me to see a bunch of 20 year olds juicing. I can't help but worry about whether or not the guys will destroy themselves because they think that they aren't hot enough yet, but the reality is that they are already hot as fuck. I threw in the monetary effect because some people think of only money and how someone else's decisions affect one's own pocketbooks.
I think that the solution is to legalize it and have the users be monitored by a doctor for liver, kidney, and cardio functions.
A slight....and I mean slight counterpoint to this

I was on a D1 college football team......I never took steroids.....I believed all the hype that it's gonna (kill you,leave you impotent,cause emotional issues)

But I saw tons of my teammates take steroids.....quick news flash....which ones?...the good ones!!!!.....and all ones who made nfl.....

They work.....they really really work

Now a highschooler on the bubble who uses to get college scholarship.....or a college kid who makes NFL.....

These are all LIFE ALTERING choices....made well before late 30s early 40s

Another point....a lot of my teamates....seem perfectly fine in their 40s...even after fairly reckless steroid use

Also....to me I believed hype in college how dangerous steroids were......yet thought nothing of drinking half a bottle of scotch, eating to 3 quarterpounders at a sitting....doing a few lines of coke...riding my cbr600 148mph...sking...skydiving....fucking a cops wife....cool up some meth....have unprotected group sex. Ride a bull at a rodeo...drop none ecstasy and party all night

But steroids....those dangerous tickets could kill ya

Tbh ...I regret not doing a cycle of two in college


Now as a recreational athelete....personally I see no reason to....the risk reward is not their

And not all that keen on looks of bodybuilding...not like it's ugly....just not my thing....my body is more for being functional athelete...but to each their own

And I know nothing of intagram guys....or how it works...but if it's a lucreative moneymaker....seems I would be a hypocrite to say don't do it.....I've done ALOT worse for money

Maybe the hate of juices up models or atheletes ....rooted in jealousy?....umm not sure
 

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A slight....and I mean slight counterpoint to this

I was on a D1 college football team......I never took steroids.....I believed all the hype that it's gonna (kill you,leave you impotent,cause emotional issues)

But I saw tons of my teammates take steroids.....quick news flash....which ones?...the good ones!!!!.....and all ones who made nfl.....

They work.....they really really work

Now a highschooler on the bubble who uses to get college scholarship.....or a college kid who makes NFL.....

These are all LIFE ALTERING choices....made well before late 30s early 40s

Another point....a lot of my teamates....seem perfectly fine in their 40s...even after fairly reckless steroid use

Also....to me I believed hype in college how dangerous steroids were......yet thought nothing of drinking half a bottle of scotch, eating to 3 quarterpounders at a sitting....doing a few lines of coke...riding my cbr600 148mph...sking...skydiving....fucking a cops wife....cool up some meth....have unprotected group sex. Ride a bull at a rodeo...drop none ecstasy and party all night

But steroids....those dangerous tickets could kill ya

Tbh ...I regret not doing a cycle of two in college


Now as a recreational athelete....personally I see no reason to....the risk reward is not their

And not all that keen on looks of bodybuilding...not like it's ugly....just not my thing....my body is more for being functional athelete...but to each their own

And I know nothing of intagram guys....or how it works...but if it's a lucreative moneymaker....seems I would be a hypocrite to say don't do it.....I've done ALOT worse for money

Maybe the hate of juices up models or atheletes ....rooted in jealousy?....umm not sure
I agree wholeheartedly. I suppose I was ranting about the guy who is 18 and starts and never cycles off and never has his vitals checked. Then you read about him dying really young. If you do it right, it can be beneficial and nonthreatening. Just like eating at Micky D's. If you do it occasionally it won't make you obese. But non stop daily consumption will give you a heart attack.
 

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It looks like there has been a shift with some guys who have vids on youtube, where they are quite open about using gear. This is a step in the right direction because the use of performance enhancing drugs seems to be massive in many sports.
And like others above I am also conflicted about steroids but I mind the instagram guys less than the companies selling their protein and creatine powders using some massively roided freak to advertise their products, that is a complete fraud.
 

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It looks like there has been a shift with some guys who have vids on youtube, where they are quite open about using gear. This is a step in the right direction because the use of performance enhancing drugs seems to be massive in many sports.
And like others above I am also conflicted about steroids but I mind the instagram guys less than the companies selling their protein and creatine powders using some massively roided freak to advertise their products, that is a complete fraud.
And I'd also like to add that the shredded, jacked online trainers who imply that anyone can look like them if they did 3 sets of 10 reps are a bit fraudulent, too. Especially when they imply that there must be something wrong with you if you cannot achieve the same results that they have achieved.
 

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And I'd also like to add that the shredded, jacked online trainers who imply that anyone can look like them if they did 3 sets of 10 reps are a bit fraudulent, too. Especially when they imply that there must be something wrong with you if you cannot achieve the same results that they have achieved.

That’s advertising for you. Drinking Coca-Cola won’t instantly see you filled with joy and surrounded by friends. People who buy Tom Ford’s premium scents don’t suddenly become sexually irresistible and fashionably dressed.

Insta is packed with people boasting through sumptuous images about how perfect their bodies and lives are. There must be queues to strip off and flaunt abs for the sexy selfie under some of those waterfalls in Hawaii. You don’t see the HGH, the steroids and all the exotic and potentially dangerous substances that got them there (except for a few brazen Russians who are sponsored by various labs and post their performance enhancing pharmaceutical products) any more than you see strained photos of the constipation a high protein diet can cause, or close ups of the symptoms of gonorrhea that unprotected sex with an infected person (no matter how sexy) can inflict.

It’s all Shiny Happy People having fun rather than Everybody Hurting.
 
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I'm thinking that I'm not coming across the way I wanted to on this thread. By all means I have the utmost respect for the big guys. I know first hand how much effort it takes to effect growth, whether one is a natty or enhances from time to time. Believe me, just taking a jab in the glutes will not make you grow; you still have to put in a ton of effort. If you don't like the feeling, or better yet, LOVE the feeling of the burn combined with thinking you can't do another rep, and then finding the power to get in another rep, then bodybuilding is not for you. But that's ok, too, because if it were easy, everyone would be jacked up, and little guys like me would be lost in the sea of muscle. So I like sticking out, knowing that I still have a while to go, but still looking better than most, looking at the big guys for inspiration. What I don't get is how many people out there think it's simple and easy, and once you get to a certain point by doing your "three sets of 10", you can quit and stay the same. Where do people get that idea? Why aren't more trainers out there online keeping it real? The reality is that once puberty is over, you go into decline unless you lift.
 

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That’s advertising for you. Drinking Coca-Cola won’t instantly see you filled with joy and surrounded by friends. People who buy Tom Ford’s premium scents don’t suddenly become sexually irresistible and fashionably dressed.

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Really?!.....God damn it.....there goes my weekend plan
 

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I'm thinking that I'm not coming across the way I wanted to on this thread. By all means I have the utmost respect for the big guys. I know first hand how much effort it takes to effect growth, whether one is a natty or enhances from time to time. Believe me, just taking a jab in the glutes will not make you grow; you still have to put in a ton of effort. If you don't like the feeling, or better yet, LOVE the feeling of the burn combined with thinking you can't do another rep, and then finding the power to get in another rep, then bodybuilding is not for you. But that's ok, too, because if it were easy, everyone would be jacked up, and little guys like me would be lost in the sea of muscle. So I like sticking out, knowing that I still have a while to go, but still looking better than most, looking at the big guys for inspiration. What I don't get is how many people out there think it's simple and easy, and once you get to a certain point by doing your "three sets of 10", you can quit and stay the same. Where do people get that idea? Why aren't more trainers out there online keeping it real? The reality is that once puberty is over, you go into decline unless you lift.
I think you coming across fine