Intimidating men with sexuality

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I cant believe that nobody mentioned the "thrill of the chase." A lot of men really enjoy a woman who plays hard to get a little bit. Its good for their ego. A good friend of mine recently had a relationship with a woman who was sexually aggressive and it just seemed to take some of the ego boosting fun out of it. Not to say that I don't like a woman who knows what she wants and goes after it, but we men need to feel that we're "winning" you with our merits. All things in life are better if they come as the result of a bit of effort.

Of course, i could be wrong, and all of this could have happened in your pre-sexual relationship.
 

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why?? cause men love to be in control. those foward or intimidating women love to control or try to control men are just doing role reversal. sometimes they have real issues with men, abusive father, husbands and are really verbally abusive and think they know it all. I have run into these women in bars, and generally ignore them(and that pisses them off, big time). I don't have time for people and their games. these gals are into fucking with your minds for some perverse reason. if you should ever sort thru all the BS and at the end of the night and you wind up with one, and try to put the moves on her to fuck her. they go into full blown panic. they put you down all night long, basically saying "you're not man enough" and then when you act "man enough" they panic. if I wouldn't get arrested, i would just throw these bitches down and fuck them on the spot, in front of everybody. or at least give them a good spanking.
 

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why?? cause men love to be in control. those foward or intimidating women love to control or try to control men are just doing role reversal. sometimes they have real issues with men, abusive father, husbands and are really verbally abusive and think they know it all. I have run into these women in bars, and generally ignore them(and that pisses them off, big time). I don't have time for people and their games. these gals are into fucking with your minds for some perverse reason. if you should ever sort thru all the BS and at the end of the night and you wind up with one, and try to put the moves on her to fuck her. they go into full blown panic. they put you down all night long, basically saying "you're not man enough" and then when you act "man enough" they panic. if I wouldn't get arrested, i would just throw these bitches down and fuck them on the spot, in front of everybody. or at least give them a good spanking.

You are not talking about a woman who is confident, you are talking about a player and she probably has no self esteem to speak of.
 

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Yes but you would be the exception Goodwood!
Just take a look at the avg perceives " sexually aggressive women". He believes that a woman who is "aggressive" is likely to be the woman who will also cheat on him.
I don't believe that is necessarily true for all woman.
I am a sexually aggressive women and I wasn't terribly thrilled to find that Mr. Ed is my complete opposite. Yet we clicked in a meaningful way. He wasn't intimidated by me and thought that with me he would finally find the intimacy he had been searching for
in each relationship he was in. The relationships all failed because Mr. Ed never believed he had any intimacy with those women and they most likely through bad relationships of their own, could not give that of themselves to any one man.
So he was constantly searching.
I tend to jump right in to my relationships with a partner.
I don't hold back very much because I want the woman/man to know exactly what you'll be getting with me. Don't waste my fucking time! I don't have any interest in wasting yours so please be reciprocal. I think it
I know it sounds like a cold and harsh way of "doing business" if you will but I find it cuts through some of the bullshit if you aren't willing to let a person jerk you around or
vise verse.

I don't want you to have regrets down the line and say "but I never knew that!"
Every one just wants somebody they can be honest and trusting with and who will return those same feelings.
Being aggressive in bed is part of having the "whole package".
Not a thing to be afraid of guys!
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Great points, CigarBabe!
The whole post describes parts of my personality very well, and the bolded is spot on.
I think the challenge is finding someone that appreciates it and sees it, as you wrote, a bonus rather than a challenge.

Congrats on finding Mr. Ed! :smile:


I cant believe that nobody mentioned the "thrill of the chase." A lot of men really enjoy a woman who plays hard to get a little bit. Its good for their ego.
Hmm. I have dated men who love the build-up/chase, so I'll agree there may be an element of that missing with a more aggressive woman.


why?? cause men love to be in control. those foward or intimidating women love to control or try to control men are just doing role reversal. sometimes they have real issues with men, abusive father, husbands and are really verbally abusive and think they know it all. I have run into these women in bars, and generally ignore them(and that pisses them off, big time). I don't have time for people and their games. these gals are into fucking with your minds for some perverse reason. if you should ever sort thru all the BS and at the end of the night and you wind up with one, and try to put the moves on her to fuck her. they go into full blown panic. they put you down all night long, basically saying "you're not man enough" and then when you act "man enough" they panic. if I wouldn't get arrested, i would just throw these bitches down and fuck them on the spot, in front of everybody. or at least give them a good spanking.
I am straightforward, not abusive, and do not play games of any sort.
If I like a guy or have a romantic interest, I'm not shy about telling him. If I want to fuck, I will. If I will never have a romantic interest in him, again, he knows. If he is not interested, I'm cool with that, too. There are no ulterior motives, but some men genuinely prefer a diffident woman and do not know how to handle one that is assertive.

...p.s. I'm always open to spankings. :tongue:
 

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After having read the entire thread to this point, I find that I actually have never met a woman that was very sexually aggressive. Or maybe they were but not towards me, LOL.
I think I would like to experience this once. The more I think of it, the sexier it becomes. As a man, you always have to take the first step and risk to be rejected.

Would I be intimidated? Probably yes. But as long as it doesn't end the relationship, that should not be a problem, because I can learn to handle it.

So I think the problem is not the intimidation, but the fact that it hampers or even ends the relationship.
 

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Some women just look intimidating. I still love the thrill of the chase but, I love for my lion to take what is his from me. What may come on as intimidating is more of a take control and show me your power over me. I love the thrill of the chase and feel that is part of it. The intimidating tempts you, then it's really up to the man to set the rules. I don't play games. I love being dominated but, if a man looks no further then the exterior he may not have the ability to discover that at all and read me totally wrong. I enjoy depth it's hard to find. Sometimes that takes a higher level of understanding then just scraping the surface. If he lacked the ability to penetrate my need to be dominated would never have been noticed. Understanding your partner is the key.
 

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I knew I was going to be misunderstood somewhere down the line.

Example: A man and woman meet and there is immediate chemistry. Exchange emails and telephone numbers. Dirty talk on the phone, about what each of them like. No overtly dominate statements by the woman, but the man does. The woman agrees to what he wants and he agrees to what she wants. Mostly they match in desires/fantasies. Naughty pics exchanged. When they meet, clothes fly off and things get extremely hot quick. The woman starts to talk the same way as on the phone and the man retreats mentally. Not physically, just mentally. After bodily fluids fly, the man says she is too assertive/aggressive. Yet he will play with her his way. His body reacted opposite to what he said. He enjoyed every minute yet.....was too I don't even know, to do it again.

This is an interesting topic Jenn. Thanks for bringing it up because it is thought-provoking.

Its a bit tricky to respond to because we do not know what the behaviour was that he regarded as "assertive/aggressive".

With that caveat in mind, I get the sense that you are like this:
1. You expect a man to meet your sexual needs, and you have ideas about how he should do this
2. You express that expectation in clearly in your communication (including body language).

Is that an accurate description?

If so, you may find that some men are uncomfortable with this because it threatens the masculine role.

I prefer to "wear the pants" in a relationship, so I feel more comfortable with more traditional, submissive women who like the man to take control. More dominant women don't scare me; it just wouldn't feel comfortable. Its a personal preference.

Everyone has difference preferences and the key challenge is finding someone who "fits".

If its of any comfort, I honestly think there are lots of men out there who would be more comfortable with taking a back seat and letting a woman like yourself dictate how things go. The problem is finding them (especially since they probably tend to be shy).

It seems to me that there was miscommunication at the email stage: you both made it clear what you wanted, but he didn't catch on that you would be so assertive about your expectations when in the bedroom. You did note that he made overtly dominant statements, whilst you did not.

In future communication, maybe you could make it clear to men that you like to take control in the bedroom and give orders? That will scare away men who don't like assertive women.

p.s. I suspect this topic is less about "intimidating men with sexuality" but the topic is more about "inimidating men". The sex bit is just context.

Again, thanks for the thread Jenn - very thought-provoking.
 

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There is an expectation in society - perhaps unjustified - that men are supposed to be constantly horny and ready for sex at the drop of a hat. Consequently, a sexually aggressive woman who moves forward at a faster pace than her partner might be offputting for that partner. After all, if he's supposed to be ready to go at any moment, but isn't ready, he may feel inadequate or assume that she finds him inadequate.
 

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Would love the answer to this question as well, Jenn.
Maybe because a sexually liberated woman is the antithesis of the good wife, motherhood, virtue, and all that some men seek in a proper mate? :shrug:

Interesting. I think some men secretly fear they are inadequate and unlearned in bed, so a woman that has many experiences to pull from is a threat. One wrong move from him and she confirms his worst fears--he doesn't know what he's doing, has a small dick compared to her other lovers, lasts half as long as 90% of other guys, etc.

I feel like I suck anyways :p J/p. But like my man Andre 3k said in "I dig her because she honest, and she do me just because". I personally would like it if a girl took the wheel.

Its cool making the first move, but sometimes I just rather be approached. Maybe it's an ego thing, or something. I would find it like a boost to my person, like something that further confirms I'm that cool.

I've been approached by girls, but never like I approach them. When that day happens I wont have a single problem at all w/it. Plus, I'm only 19, so no matter how sexual my generation is, there isn't that many sexually comfortable women or men. I'm trying to get there where I dont have even the slightest fear of approaching a woman, but whatever. I have little fright of my inadequencies sexually, because its like wahtever -- but all those other doubts that pop up here and there once and a while are far more frightening then my dick (i.e. I consider pretty nice. I look at it and get turned on...so who cares :p)
 

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I totally identify with what Jenn's written, with this added complication: because I'm extremely independent and outspoken in my daily life as well as being a bit tomboyish physically, men assume that I'm dominant sexually, and I tend to attract submissive guys in droves. In reality, I couldn't be less well-matched with these "sensitive ponytail men" sexually.

The virgin/whore dichotomy prevails, sadly. I've often been (or so I hear, heh) the girl that guys jerk off to years after the fact, but they end up dating the nice vanilla girl who bores the fuck out of them in bed more often than not, because she's the one they can take home to mama.

One guy I was with last year came on my face at my request, but freaked out about it afterwards because he found it "degrading" - how can something I'm explicitly asking for amount to exploitation? I found this especially hilarious because to me, facials are so tame as to be considered a non-issue. Good thing I didn't ask him for a golden shower, eh? It bothers me that the "nice" guys - the ones who've done their feminist homework - are often unable to make the separation between treating women respectfully in public and knowing when it's okay to hang that hat up for awhile and call them a filthy whore. There are exceptions to this rule, but lordy - not nearly enough!

Sadly, I end up dating guys more vanilla than me more often than not. I've placed many a craigslist ad looking for the kinky ones, but they usually get flagged within a matter of hours for the same reasons listed above - if a girl has strong physical preferences and knows, for instance, that she wants to get face-fucked by a slim, twentysomething uncut guy who's 8"+ and thick, she _must_ be a man, because real women can't possibly know what they want and how to ask for it. Either people really think this, or the small-dicked masses are just pulling it down because they're bitter.

What a waste, at any rate - millions of men out there are wondering why "real" girls don't act like the ones in all the porn they watch, and someone who would gladly oblige them and then some can't locate a few attractive, local non-vanilla guys to save her life.
 

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I find it refreshing to have a lady be aggressive. Women who know what they want are usually very good in bed. I love it!
 

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Jenn, you are a bit vague. Could you give an example of a situation where you were assertive and you thought the guy was intimidated?

I'm going to guess at what you meant and answer, so I'm sorry if I misunderstood you.

If you come onto a guy sexually and he "runs away" maybe you are just interpreting this as intimidated. I think most women assume every guy will sleep with any woman that is willing as soon as she is willing. This is because usually it's the woman that takes longer to decide that she likes a man enough to have sex. So women's experience is that as soon as they are ready the guy is also ready. The few times guys aren't ready and want to get to know her better, the woman interprets this as them being intimidated or wimpy. If a woman is assertive and wants sex sooner than most women, then she is more often going to be turned down because the man doesn't know if he likes her that soon.

So I believe what you call intimidated is just a misunderstanding.

Thanks for saying what I was thinking Jovial.


Just because we are male does not mean we are a walking hard on for you females to ride when you want too.

Where in my post did I imply this is what I believe?

Like Jovial I was guessing at what you meant now that I understand what you were getting at.........I love to hear what my wife wants and get a thrill when she takes it from me.Maybe this guy saying you were to much was his way of telling you to push him/his boundries?I've done it with my wife when she wanted to play with spanking and so did I.But nice men don't hit their wives,right.So she came back and did things to make it clear she wants that and rev me up.Now I love seeing her red ass jiggle under my hand!

This activity however takes a lot of trust because if a doctor saw the marks left from our play time I would be in jail.So maybe he saw somthing in you,but without trust it wont happen.

Maybe I'm still wrong?
 
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A man is not a machine and we don´t all run around with an open knife in our pockets,waiting to make use of it.And most of us rather take the part of the seducer rather than to be seduced,I think (lol).
 

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Sex is best enjoyed amongst equals.

This can be a la Thomas Crowne affair, but equally amongst the Dom(me) and sub, the "stud" ploughing his trade with the shocked and the experienced woman with the inexperienced man.

The issue is one of equality. An equality of knowledge of oneself in a sexual context. An equality of understanding of one's needs and desires. When consenting needs and desires are matched, you have a recipe for great sex.

Grunt grunt spurt is as unsophisticated as lying there like a doormat. People who aren't sexually liberated are going to be apprehensive of those who are. The issue is for those who are not liberated, not those who are. There are many forces that stop us from being sexually liberated, so I wouldn't judge anyone for that. However, judging the sexually liberated is retarded.

Jen, you need to fine tune your liberated radar.
 

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Why are some men intimidated by a woman with a strong sense of her sexuality? Someone who knows what she wants/likes and is not shy about stating it, why is this threatening?

Because many guys are born with the Idea that they and their penises were born to run the show and only they're allowed to fuck everything on earth. Any woman who knows what she wants and is strong is considered a threat to their insecure way of thinking they run everything.

Just a case of some men being little boys and not wanting to share dominance and control. or I guess they feel it just doesn't seem very femenine...

Personally I love strong sexy women who know what they want, I tend to lean heavy on the type who are loyal and away from swingers... they can be my dominatrix any day
 
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Personally I prefer a more aggresive woman especially at the beginning of a relationship or just as someone to date. The fact she is aggresive shows that she really is interested and not just going out for something to do. I was shy in highschool and didn't date at all, but in college a girl I was interested in pursued me (I didn't try to escape).

Maybe some of the men you find intimidated are the ones who inside are a bit shy. Perhaps they are shocked that you can be the initiator when they are afraid to take on the role. Another possiblity is they are afraid their friends will give them crap if they don't do the catching.

Speaking of the virgin/whore issue: we had a girl in highschool who was very self-confident. We also attended university together, where she continued being herself. She got crap at both schools because of her aggresiveness. Guys would run her down when talking to other people then get pissed off if she didn't have sex with them. Just because she was aggresive didn't make her a slut. One of the things I admired about her was that she rarely let what other people said get to her.
 

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Why are men intimidated by women with a strong sense of sexual identity? The same reason they're intimidated by guys who run faster than them or make more money than them. Pathetic insecurity. Wommenz are posta be pregnant, in the kitchen makin brefus. Though, ideally, if she's pregnant, he should be makin her brefus.
 

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It's threatening because our repressed, Puritanical Anglo society has people so screwed up here thinking that sexuality is bad and that the human body is disgusting. Women have their own issues with men too in this regard.

Why are some men intimidated by a woman with a strong sense of her sexuality? Someone who knows what she wants/likes and is not shy about stating it, why is this threatening?