Mr. Big Stuff
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And that is completely fine. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, it is encouraged to attack his positions. (as you and javier did quite well I might add) I just am skeptical of the people, not necessarily on this board, that believe that Bush is Satan Incarnate (to quote pecker) I think those people have little to bring to the debate. In fact they hurt it. I am, however, consistent: I am equally skeptical of the Bush is Heaven-sent crowd. Logical debate over his policies are more than welcome.Originally posted by jay_too@May 25 2004, 04:17 AM
On occasion, I have been know to criticize a Bush policy or position.
Now on with it:
First, to Jay. I am not certain if the patriot act needs to be scrapped. Amended, yes. Scrapped prolly not. It came from sept. 11, meant to strenghthen our capabilites in crime/terror fighting. Maybe because my father is a cop, but some of those barriers were a hindrance to officers. I find more fault with the irresponsible manner in which the Patriot act was used, rather than the act itself. However, I fully recognize that abuses (such as the ones you outlined: slammer without charges, sneak peek etc.) will remain unless the power is curtailed a bit.
Has Dubya made us safer? With this Iraq mess...Definitely not. But the patriot act isnt really a problem, it can be a solution.
Lastly to Javier. Man you raised some excellent points. A while back I made a list of all the blunders the Bush Admin. had made (I was trying to keep up, It seems that there is a scandal or something every week) You hit the big ones. Taxes during war time? unheard of. Lies on intelligence, well I will give him the benefit of the doubt, provided he gets to the bottom of it....SOMEONE lied, and I want to know who...before the election. His Isolationism? I thought that died out 100 years ago. We can no longer shut out the rest of the world. (you would think a pres. would know that.) And those RIDICULOUSLY long vacations. (tho It would be nice...)
I do have one thing, however. The deficits deal. Do they REALLY matter? I dunno. On the one hand, it has been said that as long as it is manageaable (whatever the hell that means) then it is okay. Some say it doesnt matter at all, while others make it seem like the sky is falling because of it. Because there are so many varying opinions on it, I cannot blame him for sticking to his. (he just better be right)
If you have any insight into the Deficits (links, books, whatever) it would be GREATLY appreciated.
Ken
by the by, Loyalty is simply an admirable trait, one not possessed by many. NO, it doesnt qualify him to be a leader, but it sure as hell makes me respect him more.