Iraqi shoe warrior gets 3 years; fair trial

Iraqi Journalist Sentenced for Throwing Shoes at Bush - WSJ.com

Under the Hussein regime he would have been slowly beheaded with a carving knife. It seems like the judicial system is up and running in Iraq....carrying out justice...enforcing sensible laws...providing rights, a fair trial to citizens...wonder where that came from?

 

Are you seriously extrapolating a glowing health report of the whole Iraqi justice system solely on the disposition of a single, extremely high-profile case? One so clearly representative of the whole being adjudicated?

 

i heard they commuted the sentence and then gave him a gift certificate to Prada. He should have been given a parade and a medal.

 

3 years for throwing a shoe!

What sentence will Bush receive for killing 1 million innocent Iraqi civilians and 4000+ American soldiers... all while stealing the Treasury blind and funneling untold billions into the hands of his buddies' pockets, like Haliburton, ExxonMobil, KBR & Bechtel?

 

A demonstration of the progress being made within the Iraqi governmental infrastructure.

Progress is being made as well in the relationship between the Iraqi Police and the Iraqi judicial system.

Iraqi judicial system in Wasit making progress

Cap't Pat Gillman says, “Now civilians are feeling a lot more comfortable and are trusting the police here to protect them instead of oppress them.”

The overhaul of a corrupt and oppressive national police force into an effective, protective entity is a substantial and commendable accomplishment - and directly attributable to the U.S.

Although, you'll never hear a sliver of this information on MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC, NPR and friends.

 

Man Who Threw Shoe At George Bush Is Jailed - Yahoo! News UK

"Zaidi said he had been beaten and tortured while in custody."

To extrapolate your theme ... I wonder where that came from?:wink:

 

A slap on the hand and a gift certificate to Payless?

 

not sure Zaidi is the most credible of sources.

His explanation of throwing the shoes, "It was natural."

 

It's a bit disingenuous to go rooting through the country of Iraq in order to chery-pick examples of "things going right" -- in order to justify what's still an original U.S. foreign policy blunder (pre-emptive invasion; no WMD).


"Gee, I'm sorry Mrs Wilkins, I didn't mean ot kill your husband. I thought he might have had a gun so I wanted to shoot him first. But, the good news is: when he fell, he landed on that mouse that's been giving you so much trouble. That's a good thing, right?"


This war is based on an american mistake that cost a trillion and a half bucks, thousands of dead americans, tens of thousands of american wounded, countless dead and wounded Iraqi civilians -- and it is a prime polarizing event that has further divided the citizenry of our country (abortion - in fact, most social issues, the republican/conservative "witch hunt" of Bill Clinton after a White House blowjob, and the Iraqi War have polarized this country).

Who's next, Pakistan? North Korea? Syria? Medvedev & Putin?

Not the job of the U.S. to police the world and export democracy (yeah, I know "W" said is was "God's will" to export democracy, that "all men yearn to be free" -- but that was just a bumper sticker phrase he coined in order to sell his mistake to the american voters).

 

WT: I wasn't rooting through anything. The announcement of Zaidi's sentence came over on the wire this morning.

The Emperor of Cynicism, HazelGOD, turned it into a macro thing.

 

star:

Please don't dodge this post (you're very slippery and obtuse when it suits your purposes!)


You write:

"Under the Hussein regime he would have been slowly beheaded with a carving knife. It seems like the judicial system is up and running in Iraq....carrying out justice...enforcing sensible laws...providing rights, a fair trial to citizens...wonder where that came from? "

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Yet this is in direct contrast to a wikipedia article on Hussein that says:

Secular Leadership

"Saddam saw himself as a social revolutionary and a modernizer, following the Nassar model. To the consternation of Islamic conservatives, his government gave women added freedoms and offered them high-level government and industry jobs. Saddam also created a Western-style legal system, making Iraq the only country in the Persian Gulf region not ruled according to traditional Islamic law (Sharia). Saddam abolished the Sharia law courts, except for personal injury claims."

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Let's return to what you wrote again:

"Under the Hussein regime he would have been slowly beheaded with a carving knife"


Please justify this statement.

 

indigenous culture?

"...Thousands of Feyli Kurds were driven from the country under Saddam, who declared them to be Iranian citizens and forced them across the border. Others were repressed, imprisoned and tortured in the 1970s and 1980s...."

Grotian Moment: The International War Crimes Trial Blog | Reuters: Iraq's Tareq Aziz, Chemical Ali face new trial

 

They learn from the best. cf Gitmo. Ya do what ya gotta do when it suits your purposes. :wink:

So I guess what you're saying, star, is that thanks to the divine intervention of the US of A there's been a marked improvement in the Iraqi judicial system?

 

Shoes don't kill presidents, people do.

Wait. Ban all shoes!

 

Shoes don't let shoes drive drunk.

Just say no to shoes.

It's ten o'clock. Do you know where your shoe is?

 

Nick8:

Our consecutive wham-bam posts directed at the starman have driven him into seclusion (like a caged animal being poked by a stick)


Our work is done.

 

Not to worry. He can run but he can't hide.

 

i hope shoe throwing catches on here as a means of protest.

I wear a 13, could really do some damage with my work boot.

even rush would feel that.

 

WT: Look at the first sentence in your wiki excerpt: Saddam saw himself.....

Of course he didn't rule according to traditional Islamic law. He ruled according to Saddam's law. It was among the most corrupt judicial and law enforcement systems on the globe.

Cripes! Are you really buying that 'Western-style legal system' bullshit?

Take a look:

Law.com - Toward an Iraqi Legal System

See above, zookeeper.

 

Whoosh ...:wink: