I heard a radio program on satellite where str8 guys were discussing it and they said that it was not gay and they would do it if they could. The old joke is something about if you could do it you would never leave the house. They said it was only gay if you came in your own mouth. They said the reasoning is that when you jerk off you are touching dick, but not another guys. So when you do this you are not sucking another guys dick. Do you think it is gay? and to the guys have you ever done it?