Is circumcision really that big of a deal?

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All one needs to do is search porn titles and/or descriptions for the term 'uncut' and it is 100% gay porn. Do the math. I have.
Okay. Let's go with your idea that gay guys fetishize intact penises Sarg. I'll award you the point and then elaborate on it.

I've noticed that intact female genitalia is a straight fetish. 100% of straight porns show women with complete genitals. It's a straight fetish. How about that?

I'm being facetious, but the obvious point is so what?
 

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Your comment that "if they AREN'T happy with it, there's NO WAY TO UNDO IT". Well, I think the claim is that they are undoing it. I don't resent the fact that they are restoring it. It's a long and difficult regime and I admire the determination.
semendemon, this is exactly why restoration goes hand in hand with intactivism. Restoration is no panacea for genital cutting. Somewhere around 56% of U.S. baby boys are currently cut every year. At about a year of restoration for every minute of the good doctor's time, few men will ever seek to "undo" their circumcisions. We may as well say that few men will ever recover. It's just too much trouble. And the effort and time involved is highly dependent on what the doc did to you in the first place. But as some of us here point out, if you don't want your sex life to wind down in your thirties or forties, that is a highly motivating factor.
 

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... Look at the parent site that spawned it:
Circumcision Information and Resource Pages ...
Wrong! CIRP is only displaying a copy of the study on their website. They didn't "spawn" the study. Nice try at misinformation.
It's yet another anti circ propaganda site. Unbiased? Not!
CIRP makes no assertion of being neutral. As far as I can tell there isn't a neutral circumcision site on the web.
Take a look at the bottom of the page.
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Therefore they acknowledge that they do not have any authoritative voice when it comes to medical issues. It's nice to see that there's at least one fact listed on an anti circ website, too bad it's in small print all the way at the bottom...
I guess you'd say circlist is an "authoritative voice" about medical issues. Anyway, the infant circumcision controversy is mostly about social reasons rather than medical. How many infants have a medical defect that requires rapid circumcision before he's left the hospital?

The Sorells et al study was published in the British Journal of Urology. Are they biased too?
 

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The Sorells et al study was published in the British Journal of Urology. Are they biased too?

Of course they are, they're British! Since the Brits don't cut and more importantly, the NHS doesn't pay for RIC, they obviously have a deep bias. Of course they also much be anti-jewish as well.

We've all heard ad nauseum that anyone opposed to RIC is biased and no better than Hitler.

The lengths that the mutilated go to to not only justify their scarred up wienie, but also to ensure that little boys suffer as well is truly amazing.
 

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The first thing to do would be to throw the docs and mohels into prison. If a parent does it at home, then absolutely, they deserve to have their butts rot in prison.

I would go even further and state that in the first twenty years after circ is banned, a panel of three doctors would also have to agreed that circumcision for someone under the age of 18 is medically necessary. For the next dozen years, I would ensure that adults wanting to be cut come in for counseling to ensure they're not being pressured into it by their families.

Dude, you should be on the Supreme Court! Have you at least considered running for office on this platform?
 

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Name some pros semendemon. We can have a nice calm productive discussion about it.

Oh, don't pretend you're unfamiliar with the pros and cons of circumcision, now.
I'm not taking the bait this time. Nice try though! (I do suggest you talk to a urologist who deals with problems with uncircumcised adult males. They can tell you all the pros and cons.)

I've really enjoyed the ride on this, and you were more civil than most. But it's getting kinda old now and I need a break. Besides, the thread has splintered into too many different directions now anyway.
 

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I'm not taking the bait this time. Nice try though! (I do suggest you talk to a urologist who deals with problems with uncircumcised adult males. They can tell you all the pros and cons.)
I'm sure they can. Sorry. I wasn't specific enough. Name some pros of infant circ.
 

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Circumcision will also create some future problems. Are you suggesting we cut off babies foreskins to prevent the very rare occurence of problems later in life which don't necessarily indicate a circumcision, circumcision isn't the only choice for phimosis, balanitis, etc. Circumcision can result in a variety of infections including meningitis and extremely rarely necrotizing fascitis, it can cause penile bridges which harbour infective agents, circumcisions can go wrong in themselves with kids being cut too high and injury to the glans itself.
An American urologist will tell you of problems circumcision will prevent, a British urologist will advise you circumcion isn't necessary and in the event that a penis is dysfunctional he will advise circumcision only as a last resort.
 

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I've really enjoyed the ride on this, and you were more civil than most. But it's getting kinda old now and I need a break. Besides, the thread has splintered into too many different directions now anyway.
An example of someone not so civil is: flying v, see: http://www.lpsg.org/893865-post37.html
But it's getting kinda old now and I need a break.
Yeah I think losing often would get old. I don't understand what motivates your side.
Briefly, it will prevent most of the future problems that the urologist will tell you about.
Prevention of an unlikely future problem is the best "pro" that you could present?
 

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A better question than is it worth losing sleep other is is it worth even being performed?

The vast majority of the population of the world has lived and continue to live very happily, normally and problem-free with a foreskin. There is nothing wrong with having a foreskin. There is plenty wrong with having it cut off.
 

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Now that this thread has 95+ replies and 1,400+ viewings, one can deduce the answer to title question without even looking at the posts. The activity says it all.
 

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I think that, unless the person requires medical intervention for the penis to operate naturally, that the foreskin should be left intact. Personally, my foreskin gives me great pleasure...
 

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"consider that in your excitement in having a foreskin again, your belief that it is more sensitive, causes it to be so.

No.

What causes it to feel good is that it feels GOOD.

Especially when the snug skin tube bunches behind the glans and then just bumps over the corona. It's a whole new world. Like seeing a color that I never knew existed. It tickles the very moist and supple glans while simulteously triggering a skin-stretching pleasure that I just never knew before. Unless you have enough slack for your skin tube to tightly roll over on itself while you're aroused, you are not feeling the sensations afforded by Taylor's j-receptors, which exist nowhere else in human anatomy.

Another thing that feels really good is the way the skin rolls off the glans after clinging to it all day. If the skin is ever so gently rolled back and forth without causing full retraction, it's really a better feeling than any woman's lips caressing my glans ever felt. It comes from both the glans and the skin tube tip.

Yet another new thing I love about my restored skin tube is when I have a really rock-hard erection, manual stimulation can dig in and kneed the core of the penile shaft with absolutely no friction, just by sliding the skin around. As the skin glides over the various veins and features of the erectile tissue within the penis, it kind of vibrates like your tires going over a concentration of speed bumps. It's literally the feeling of having a vibrator attached to the hand doing the stroking.

I could go on and on, but I get the feeling you prefer ignorance.

The foreskin is THE BEST part of the penis. I can't even imagine how good it would be to engage in the above behaviors if I had the other 50% of my sensual nerve endings back.

Get a clue and stop pretending it's ok to amputate sexual parts from babies. Last time I checked, sex was kind of important to human males, and the penis was the key player in that game. So yes, circumcision is big fat hairy freaking deal!

-Ron