Is Donald Rumsfeld a War Criminal?

[Drifterwood]

BBC - See Also: See Also: Wikileaks releases Iraq war logs

I will admit that I find it hard to be objective on this matter because the man fills me with such disgust.

Maybe he was just following orders.

 

[Bbucko]

In one word: yes. But he's hardly alone.

 

[bearvwe]

Probably just following orders - from Cheney and the rest of the New American Century guys

 

[798686]

Yes, but I've always thought he was.
He reminds me of sadistic gym instructors, let loose with far more manpower. :/

Can't find him mentioned in the article tho. :S

 

[ManlyBanisters]

Yes.

He has been for quite some time. I don't see him ever being brought to task for it, though.

And it's not just the Americans and their chain of command that are guilty of war crimes.

 

[Industrialsize]

yes

 

[joyboytoy79]

Is the pope catholic?

 

[hjake26]

Please! You wouldn't be saying that if he was an Obama dude.

 

[joyboytoy79]

Please! You wouldn't be saying that if he was an Obama dude.

I don't know if this remark is aimed at me or not, since you didn't quote anyone. However, since it directly follows my comment, I will treat it as if it were aimed at me.

You obviously know nothing about me, or my political knowledge or beliefs.

PRESIDENT Obama (yes, he is our president and he deserves the respect of being addressed as such) is a man. He surrounds himself with human beings. He is not a god, nor do I pretend that he is. As a non-god human being, I know he is prone to mistakes. I know that the human beings he surrounds himself with are prone to mistakes. If President Obama hired Donald Rumsfeld tomorrow, my opinion of Mr. Rumsfeld would not change. He is a warmonger of the worst color. He's a warmonger of the economically scavenging sort. The riches he raked in from the Iraqi wars is beyond ridiculous. He is a criminal.

If you disagree, please feel free to weigh in with examples. Discuss your disagreement with me. I'm all for civil discourse. Discourse is how we learn things, and learning is good. It leads to knowledge.

If you simply want to Obamabash you can do that on any of the 8,000 or so threads that have been created specifically for that purpose. Your contribution on those threads will not seem nearly as childish, petty, and ultimately inconsequential as they do here, on this thread, which has absolutely nothing to do with the President at all.

Thank you. Have a good day.

 

[Cobalt Blue]

Yes. Add to the list Cheney and Blair.
March them to The Hague ASAP!

 

[Industrialsize]

Please! You wouldn't be saying that if he was an Obama dude.

Cheney was a war criminal long before Barack Obama became President or Senator. And he should be thanking President Obama from holding back the pitch fork holding masses who would like to see him brought to justice.

 

[Pecker Check]

The idea that Rumsfeld was merely following orders from Cheney is worth considering, but where did the connection between these guys come from? Way back, in the Nixon years, Dick came to work FOR Donald only after he was able to demonstrate that he was sufficiently ruthless to measure (is the term up?) to Rumsfeld's hawkish standards.

 

[eurotop40]

Please! You wouldn't be saying that if he was an Obama dude.

Come on! You know that the W presidency has been the deepest point in US american history!

 

[798686]

Is the pope catholic?

He's a war criminal, too.

Is Donald Rumsfeld a c*nt?

 

[TinyPrincess]

In one word: yes. But he's hardly alone.

My thought exactly...

They should all be sent to a war crimes trial in Hague...

 

[dandelion]

but the US does not recognise the concept of war crimes committed by its own rulers. One or two countries where he might find his legal situation a bit awkward if he went on holiday, but then one or two countries where it might not be the legal situation which was his biggest worry. Blair might be in a more risky position.

 

[798686]

I know Blair sanctioned the war in Iraq - but not sure he's guilty of the same types of sadistic crimes as Rumsfeld...

 

[HUNGHUGE11X7]

Hell yeah... Along with BUSH & CHENEY !!!

History will come to think of them only slightly better than we think of Hitler cause their administration was sociologically akin to the Third Reich. The similarities were both remarkable and frightening !


~HH~

 

[dandelion]

always a diffiuclut question, who is the more guilty, the one who comits the warcrimes with a gun in the field, or the one who authorised the action in the first place. Couldnt possibly say much Blair knew in detail about torture of suspects. The british government sanctioned US flights carrying prisoners being kidnapped and passed on to third parties for 'processing' stopping off in Britain for refuelling. Difficult to see how this might have been done without authorisation from the top of government.

 

[D_Tully Tunnelrat]

Yes, and I second both Indy, and Bucko's points. Rummy incepted the plan, Cheney the strategy/sales job/justification, and Bush the target. John Woo gave them legal "cover." Of them all, Cheney seems the most capable, and most culpable.