Yes and no. It shouldn't be, but deep down inside, even when we do selfless things for others, we have some selfish pat me on the back thing going on. You can usually tell if this is the case because one would tell numerous people about or advertise their selfless deed. There are a few people who simply do things and don't say a word, which is admirable.
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Was Mother Teresa selfless or was she looking for a payoff when she devoted her life to helping the sick and poor? And was Jesus (if you believe in him) looking for a payoff?
Was Mother Teresa selfless or was she looking for a payoff when she devoted her life to helping the sick and poor? And was Jesus (if you believe in him) looking for a payoff?
Yes they were, it made them feel good to help those people. Everything is about the "payoff"
Nothing is selfless.
I would put it this way:
When we see things clearly, we see that in serving the larger good, we are expressing our better and perhaps most real selves.
So, from an 'enlightened' perspective (sorry, but I don't know how to avoid this hard-to-define word), serving the selfish end and the selfless end carries no contradiction because both may be served through performing the same act.
I would put it this way:
When we see things clearly, we see that in serving the larger good, we are expressing our better and perhaps most real selves.
So, from an 'enlightened' perspective (sorry, but I don't know how to avoid this hard-to-define word), serving the selfish end and the selfless end carries no contradiction because both may be served through performing the same act.
I understand your view, Everything we do including suicide, is to make ourselves feel better.
I would just like to think that everything is not about a payoff. I am an optimist and happy to be a little naive.
I understand your view, Everything we do including suicide, is to make ourselves feel better.
I would just like to think that everything is not about a payoff. I am an optimist and happy to be a little naive.
I understand your view, Everything we do including suicide, is to make ourselves feel better.
I would just like to think that everything is not about a payoff. I am an optimist and happy to be a little naive.
I think you are slightly cynical here, just slightly.
Your assumption seems to be that a payoff somehow sullies what might otherwise be a 'pure' action.
But is there anything impure about wanting to be one who does good? one who expresses love and compassion? one who leaves the world on balance better for his walking through it?
I don't think so.
And yet, all these give a form of payoff.
I agree with you Mem101 I knw that some people get a kick out of doing good for others but I'd like to think that there are lots of folks around who do good simply because they want to.
I would also say that when they do the said acts they don't consciously think "Hey if I do blah blag wont that make me feel good"
See, I told you we could get along.:wink: