As human populations naturally grow, why not "scoot over" a bit and make place for them/us/our children?
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Sorry I couldn't seem to find enough time to reply sooner.
Pronatalist said:
In answer to your questions/concerns, What "overpopulation?" "Overpopulation" is a values judgement that implies that some people are unnecessary, redundant, or expendible, something that quite many people just do not believe.
In the 80's the Earth had 5 billion people. Since it now has 6 billion, did it have a 1 billion population deficit back then? What is the ideal population? Should people be standing shoulder to shoulder. Should everyone be alotted 3 square feet of ground?
Well perhaps we did have a "population deficit." That's a very likely reason why human populations grow, because the human race evidently isn't big enough yet. It does make more sense to compare with the future, rather than the past, in the area of "ideal population size," because the past is gone and outdated, and the human race was started by God as only 2 people, which obviously isn't big enough.
But to suggest a population "deficit" is to somewhat miss the point. If the 1980s Earth was to "suddenly" find the population having leaped to 6 billion, it might have been "a bit much" back then, but not so much now. As while human populations grow, so too, grows the number of potential parents to raise all the children. And the necessary technology. So today's world is more prepared for 6 billion, than the 1980s world. We are into another generation of parents, and this generations is larger, so it's quite understandable that the overall numbers of people, and numbers of children we might be collectively having, should be larger.
What is the ideal population? Ever hear of the Utilitarian Principle? It says that often the best thing to do, is that which most benefits the most people. I am not alone in noticing, that a larger population would benefit more people, simply by there being more people around, to experience life, as some website also made the population implication of it. So I find that any "optimum" or "ideal"-sized human population, wouldn't be small and pidly, but more on the order of being or naturally becoming, "nearly as large as possible." Where are we going to put all the "burgeoning billions?" What a stupid question, that people "educated beyond their intelligence tend to worry about." Even the "uneducated," probably can figure out the "obvious" answer to that concern. Why not put them
in between all the people already living? A naturally vaster and denser human population, helps the nations and the planet to hold quite a lot more people. Simple logical people seem to be able to figure it out, but the population phobics seem to resist such "obvious" answers.
Somewhere I read of this story. Some village in Africa, was warned by the "family planners," that at their current rate, they would double their numbers in just 25 years. To which they all started clapping. Whoops! Somebody forgot to tell them, that or why certain Western contraceptive imperilists, claim that growing human numbers are "bad."
Come on, think about it logically. Are these "unlearned" people just completely stupid? Surely village elders, remember a time when there wasn't quite so many people, and notice the village swelling with youth, and growing larger, and closer to other similarly swelling villages. But is there really anything wrong with the villages growing bigger and closer together, if the people in the other villages are also friendly? I don't think so. I would rather see the land put to better human-friendly use. I commend the human race for working together, to mutually help
enlarge everybody's numbers, for the greater good of the many. That's what happens when people work together. Quite often, everybody benefits.
Some poster on another forum, talked about villages in Africa, growing into small towns, haphazardly, with poor or little planning for growth, while in India supposedly, they better plan for the growth. Why aren't more people talking about that issue? As a pro-life, pro-human pronatalist, I would prefer that we more invite and plan for the growth, and not foolishly resist "what must be."
BTW, your info is out-of-date. The official global population estimate, is 6.7 billion people now. And factoring in the "undercounting" that some people suspect, and we then round now, not to 6 billion, but to 7 or 7.5 billion or so.
Should people be standing shoulder-to-shoulder? Interesting that you bring that up, as since the planet isn't getting any bigger, we find that human bodies do indeed need to be getting closer together, at least on the global scale. My introduction to the population issue, would seem to be some liberal stupid college textbook, that had a typical unrelated picture of some "crowd" of people, and a caption suggesting that at current rates, it may not be long before we all reach "standing room only conditions." They also had a picture of "baby 5 billion." How do libtards miss such "obvious" answers? Yes, that is the direction we need to be growing, towards a more heavily-populated and denser world population. I have long advocated that China and India, and all nations, encourage large families, and deliberately populate themselves up denser and denser, so as to do their part to help the planet hold more and more people. All countries have a duty to, and should be encouraged to explore how to properly populate themselves denser, especially by their
natural increasetheir very own children.
Before my "introduction," I hadn't really thought about the population issue so much. Apparently "polite company" people, don't really dwell so much upon "population" matters, and so it naturally seems that yeah, maybe world population may be a bit on the "large" size maybe, but people die and people are born every day. I don't think I really realized so much that world population isn't at all "static" in population size, and has been continually growing since "in the beginning God created." Now it seems, that human births naturally outnumber or significantly outpace deaths, and go the human race is naturally gaining ground, naturally progressing towards
enlarging its numbers. So the logical response would be to explore how humans indeed can populate denser. Presumably, it's probably going to take the building of additional suburbs, more cities and towns, to hold us all. I didn't find that pattern "frightening" as such "scare tactics" intend, but thought it rather cool that there's so many people and that so many people would be naturally enjoying having so many babies. With such a "huge" and naturally-rising world population, must be quite a lot of people out there enjoying natural sex. Besides, look around. The world's not "crowded." There can be found, or made, lots of room for lots more people.
Now why do I say, "
nearly as large as possible?" Well because I do think people should be allotted more than 3 square feet. What do ridiculous future extrapolations have to do with anything anyway? I think people need more like 1000 square feet or 100 square meters. But this isn't really a problem within the forseeable future anyway. And do people forget that there's a vertical dimension? If ever there came to be so many people, which is seriously rather unlikely for quite many practical and logical reasons, why not stack people into the sky into highrises?