I truly believe you love God. I'm not questioning your faith. I assumed since you actually know God, you'd also knew him by a name?
You say I didn't know God when I refereed him as God and seem to imply religious ppl worship a false God.
Is God against homosexuality?
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You say I didn't know God when I refereed him as God and seem to imply religious ppl worship a false God.
It is part of the indoctrination. You just have to study a little to understand that everything is a plan to manipulate through fear, punishment and guilt. god doesn't exist, so he tries to do the good you can and don't hurt anyone. He lives free and happy. There is no prize, there is no punishment. Nobody knows anything. And there is no reason to know.
No, that is not what I wrote.
I said I had a problem with religions who ask people to suspend critical thinking. Not that all religious people are incapable of critical thinking. The difference is massive.
You kind of prove my point by defaulting to blind acceptance simply because someone told you God's knowledge is so vast we can't possibly understand why some things make absolutely no sense.
Because if you acknowledge that the bible is flawed, it would blow a massive hole in the idea that the Bible is the word of an all knowing entity.
Throughout Ancient societies, the most powerful men have always acknowledged the bible as the word of God. Rejecting their own religions/deities/scientists.
If the bible is not the word of God, then of course we're dealing with a global coverup.
I find your conclusions amusing. Wrong, but amusing.
Religion is a weapon. It only makes sense for people in power to try and wield it.
It's no different than countries becoming communist or democracies based on political alliances.
It has nothing to do with the authenticity of the bible.
I most definitely agree with your views on Religion and how it's used. A few ppl here have argued God is as real as Santa. Why couldn't these powerful men convince mankind to worship Santa instead?
If we replaced Santa with the God of Abraham, would Religion still be as effective? I think we have to acknowledge that God has the more desirable attributes?
The words of the bible seem to resonate with Mankind since it has survived. A wide variety of books have been written by men also but the bible is a book most ppl hold as the gold standard for spiritual enlightenment and world views.
'the most powerful men have always acknowledged the bible as the word of God.'
If only it were so, there may be a little more justice in the world.
Yes, Santa really needs to pick up his game. A lump of coal for being naughty pales in comparison to spending all of eternity in the firey pits of Hell that the Abrahamic God offers. I guess if someone believes you are holding a gun to their head, they'll do whatever you say.
Don't get me wrong, I believe the rituals of Santa are probably practised by more people at some point in their lives than Christianity. So Santa can be proud of that.
It's interesting you say this since the Abrahamic God is often depicted as docile by Religious followers. In comparison to Santa, God is actually more ruthless.
And you're right...a lump of coal isn't as appealing to powerful men.
The old testament God is a real something-else actually. Despotic, spiteful, jealous, vengeful, petty, cruel. He was the stick, Jesus was the carrot.
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With war, torture, pain, suffering all around the world, the idea that God is instead focused on where we put our cocks is offensive to everything Jesus taught.
No, it's because their parents don't tell them it's fake after a while. They'd still believe in Santa too if their parents completed the brainwashing.
heinz.friedrich
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You should not believe everything that is in those books as a believer. As you mentioned, some of the tings are obviously contradicting. In my opinion, Jesus tried to correct some of the teachings, because the description of God in religious books does not really make sense and a lot of people claim that they spoke for God that did not speak for God. I am not necessarily talking about prophets but more about those that have written those religious books. But I am also not sure about some of the "prophets".
There is a story about Jesus in the bible how he talked to Satan and tried to convince him to give in to his materialistic side, but Jesus resisted.
I believe they did the same with all the other spiritual figures and also the scribes of religious books with more or less success and they were more susceptible than Jesus.
Slavery is for example not a law of God although some people had slaves like Abrahams wife or Mohammed the guy that wrote the Quran. Slavery is one of the worst thing you can do that is why the negative principle tried to convince nearly every culture to practice it. Slavery was practiced nearly everywhere but that is not a human invention in my opinion. It is brought from negative beings similar that some human teachings were brought from positive beings like God.
Yes some stories were provenI know a lot of astral travelers that also met Angels, so I think they really exist.
But I think that is the same with channeling. Some people really had contact with God and with positive beings and some peopel didnt have contact. As far as I know God will interfere again because the result were not reallly satisfying, but you have to pray correctly to get help.
If you dont ask for help, God will not help you.
I got rid of all these outdated hocus pocus methods and I it was the best decision I ever made. If u want to be true to yourself, run while u still have time. The moment I turned my back on religion , I felt so relieved. Take this from a guy who wasted many years attending regular church service instead of , well, u know....
As adults I've been told that sin is sin. That God doesn't see it any different as if, I were an alcoholic. With God it is Black or White.... no Gray. But, with that if, we are born that way. Then how can it be a sin? As a parent of a daughter that is... I have to believe that and not so much as what the world pushes on us. Best and love to you my friend.
Is it sinful for me to stimulate my genitals or to have someone do it for me? I don't think so.
I imagine that someone probably interpreted the scriptures to say such behavior is forbidden in an attempt to control the behavior of other people...
I imagine that someone probably interpreted the scriptures to say such behavior is forbidden in an attempt to control the behavior of other people...
Most of the rules in a religion are designed to grow the number of people in the religion.
Religion, like any ideology lives and dies by those who believe in it. It's no different than democracy, communism, Nazism etc.
This is done by providing guidance to reducing death by disease, murder, etc; increasing reproduction or retention of members by enforcing indoctrination (going to church regularly, ceremonies like baptism, marriage, partners must be brought into the religion to marry etc) and recruiting such as missionary work etc.
Religion, like any ideology lives and dies by those who believe in it. It's no different than democracy, communism, Nazism etc.
This is done by providing guidance to reducing death by disease, murder, etc; increasing reproduction or retention of members by enforcing indoctrination (going to church regularly, ceremonies like baptism, marriage, partners must be brought into the religion to marry etc) and recruiting such as missionary work etc.
halcyondays
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I'm not afraid of things that don't exist.
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