Is God against homosexuality?

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The vast majority are actually a shade of bisexual such as yourself. Homosexuals are simply an extreme variant much like heterosexuality is at the other end.
What a nonsense. How could a long term a primary function of every living being in this world - a procreation - set heterosexuals into "extreme" variant? Gays cannot reproduce. From a biological variant it is not normal behavior.
If the nature or God made gays for each other, then anus could be prepared for a long term penetration. But it is not, a gay bowel syndrome, leakages etc. are common after time when it comes to anal sex - for gays and for straight.

I am guessing you are trolling me at this point to compare homosexuals with murders, paedophiles, a sickness, a defect or a cripple. So I'm not going to waste any more time. Good luck.
You are guessing wrong, but I am not responsible for this. I just said that every minority thinks that what they do is perfectly normal. Whether they are gays, cannibals or people with serious mental illness in a mental institution.
 
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Oh for sure God is against it, as a Regional Franchise God Representative i can speak on Gods behalf, of course i can offer you a great deal on psychological pain and suffering...this month we are offering a 50% discount if you refer a friend , or if you're affiliated with the Catholic Church, 'refer a Fiend'.
 
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First - stop with the labels. Humans have sexuality - not "gay" not "straight" not "bi". We are all horny on purpose. What you choose to do with it is up to you. God gives you a gift - its called free will. If God was against us expressing our sexuality, He would not have given us the gift of sexuality. Quite the contrary, God wants us to celebrate our sexuality. Be lustful, but respectful. Raunchy, but loving. Sex is the ultimate expression of that love. Sexual abuse, rape, etc. is not love expressed through sex. One night stands, hookups, long term relationships, if the sex is truly about lust or "Getting off" then in almost all cases, its about loving and caring for the other person - even if you don't know them well. If I go to a jack off party, its because I care enough about the other dudes to enjoy our sexuality together. You almost have to show your love for that person (i.e. you don't physically hurt them - unless that's what they want) to express it.

Above all, God commands us to love each other. So do it however you can. We need more of it in this world. And sex is a great way to show it.
 
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I grew up in a household that was generally opposed to homosexuality. My parents were traditional, m small town Protestants and we attended church regularly and discussed the Bible and scripture.

I didn't know anyone who was gay when I was younger and recall some discussions from church leaders about "sexual immorality" which included same sex relationships. I was young during the AIDS crisis and remember friends and others around me thinking gay was gross, embarrassing, and shameful. I denied my sexual orientation for a long time out of fear I would disappoint God and my family.

After my first gay experience I spoke with a therapist and my then pastor. Both were actually very helpful in different ways. My pastor stopped short of saying God was in favor of gay relationships but imparted the knowledge God loves me despite what I do on Earth. I appreciated his honesty and it gave me clarity. Coming out to my parents was difficult but on some level they knew. My dad was suspicious yet he took it better than mom. We never stopped communicating or talking but things were very awkward for several months. I knew they loved me and believe most of the angst was my mother's fear I would burn in hell.

Now my father is gone and my mother has mellowed but still doesn't really ask me questions. She knows I'm dating someone I'm excited about but has stopped short of asking many questions. Today I still consider myself Christian and believe God exists. I also feel no shame about being gay and I've had very few negative responses about it.

Does God approve? Well, I don't know because I've never asked but I know God loves me. I believe God created us for relationships both emotional and physical. I do believe sexual immorality exists and takes on many different forms. To some that umbrella includes gay relationships. I have no real desire or goal to convince the entire world to approve of my sexual preference but rather to just try to respect and understand as many as possible.
 
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I grew up in a household that was generally opposed to homosexuality. My parents were traditional, m small town Protestants and we attended church regularly and discussed the Bible and scripture.

I didn't know anyone who was gay when I was younger and recall some discussions from church leaders about "sexual immorality" which included same sex relationships. I was young during the AIDS crisis and remember friends and others around me thinking gay was gross, embarrassing, and shameful. I denied my sexual orientation for a long time out of fear I would disappoint God and my family.

After my first gay experience I spoke with a therapist and my then pastor. Both were actually very helpful in different ways. My pastor stopped short of saying God was in favor of gay relationships but imparted the knowledge God loves me despite what I do on Earth. I appreciated his honesty and it gave me clarity. Coming out to my parents was difficult but on some level they knew. My dad was suspicious yet he took it better than mom. We never stopped communicating or talking but things were very awkward for several months. I knew they loved me and believe most of the angst was my mother's fear I would burn in hell.

Now my father is gone and my mother has mellowed but still doesn't really ask me questions. She knows I'm dating someone I'm excited about but has stopped short of asking many questions. Today I still consider myself Christian and believe God exists. I also feel no shame about being gay and I've had very few negative responses about it.

Does God approve? Well, I don't know because I've never asked but I know God loves me. I believe God created us for relationships both emotional and physical. I do believe sexual immorality exists and takes on many different forms. To some that umbrella includes gay relationships. I have no real desire or goal to convince the entire world to approve of my sexual preference but rather to just try to respect and understand as many as possible.
My brother in law is married to a man. They are both devout Lutherans. God has blessed them in so many ways. It isn’t about what equipment you have, it’s about who you love. His Mom struggled with it too. Your Mom has her own journey to bare. It’s Not yours. Just know you are completely and wholly normal and loved by God. He wants you to celebrate your life and the relationships you foster while you are here.
 

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In general, Christians, Jews, Muslims obtained their conception of a god from scripture. All of their scripture was written thousands of years ago. At that time the earth was sparsely populated. To those writers, the earth was flat. Books were scarce, and much effort went into producing one. The communications among people in other parts was minimal. Science hardly existed. Christians (and others) have accepted these writings as if they came from a god. If you accept them unquestionably, what does that say about your intellect? You believe something because it came from a book, which has been altered over centuries? You think it is from a god, when there has been no evidence, no revelation in thousands of years. Now the earth is overpopulated. Homosexuality will help us to decrease the race toward Armageddon. It should be the new norm. Straight men should masturbate more and not produce offspring. Contraception use should become more universal and available. The Roman Catholic Church needs to change its policies to conform to the will of its adherents.
 

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I'm going to risk getting banned for this, but there's a lot of talk about God not liking Gays.

Let's take big J from Nasaret, he hang with a growing group of men and his father didn't diss him for that. Just something to think about in the light of research results mentioning long periods of time with a single-gender group statistically leads to sexual activities.
 

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I'm going to risk getting banned for this, but there's a lot of talk about God not liking Gays.

Let's take big J from Nasaret, he hang with a growing group of men and his father didn't diss him for that. Just something to think about in the light of research results mentioning long periods of time with a single-gender group statistically leads to sexual activities.

his beloved disciple isn’t a chick it’s a dude named John lmaooo
 

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Why must people torture themselves?

Because they are indoctrinated from childhood to believe in sadistic monster gods. By the time kids become adults they can't think outside the box of that indoctrination. As I've said many times before indoctrination is a ten dollar word for brainwashing.

In every culture around the world parents own their children and raise them in the culture of their birth. It's Stockholm syndrome. If my loving parents/family/community believe in a god it must be true.

We are all victims of the lie.

Few can think outside the box. Fewer leave it.
 
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Well, if someone believes in the God, and what a Christian doctrine says then he knows that the God is against homosexual acts. He is also against killing, cheating, stealing ect. Everybody has a free will, and do whatever wants to do, but you can't choose that gay sex is not a crime in the eyes of the God while stealing, killing, cheating are. You don't buy a fruit on a market and choose the most beautiful one.
The Christian doctrine gives a clear call that a homosexual act is, between another things, something that the God does not accept. You either deal with it that in your understanding or not. It is up to you.
This is how it is from the religious point of view. From the biological it is similar.
 

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Why must people torture themselves? Most of the gods people have come up with are sadistic monsters. If your god is angry and punitive and causes its believers to be cruel to you, then your god is not worthy of you.

You haven’t met the God that isn’t represented by the Catholi
Well, if someone believes in the God, and what a Christian doctrine says then he knows that the God is against homosexual acts. He is also against killing, cheating, stealing ect. Everybody has a free will, and do whatever wants to do, but you can't choose that gay sex is not a crime in the eyes of the God while stealing, killing, cheating are. You don't buy a fruit on a market and choose the most beautiful one.
The Christian doctrine gives a clear call that a homosexual act is, between another things, something that the God does not accept. You either deal with it that in your understanding or not. It is up to you.
This is how it is from the religious point of view. From the biological it is similar.
Dude, you really need to read the Bible in full. It talks about sexual violence as a sin, not homosexuality as a sin. Any sexual violence is condemned by God, no matter where you lie on the Kinsey scale. Love expressed through sex is not.
What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality? | Human Rights Campaign
 

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Well, if someone believes in the God, and what a Christian doctrine says then he knows that the God is against homosexual acts. He is also against killing, cheating, stealing ect. Everybody has a free will, and do whatever wants to do, but you can't choose that gay sex is not a crime in the eyes of the God while stealing, killing, cheating are. You don't buy a fruit on a market and choose the most beautiful one.
The Christian doctrine gives a clear call that a homosexual act is, between another things, something that the God does not accept. You either deal with it that in your understanding or not. It is up to you.
This is how it is from the religious point of view. From the biological it is similar.
I presume that you are referring to points made in the bible and as supposedly passed down from the four apostles.
Remember the writings happened years later and through time different interpretations have been put on them reflecting personal views.
When you tell a folk story, and the bible is nothing more than a collection of folks stories, over the years they get embellished, bits get forgotten and story tellers add parts that reflect the views of the person they are telling the stories to.
So, currently, reading the bible isn't reading the words of god but only an interpretation - regardless of how slewed it is..
 
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What a nonsense. How could a long term a primary function of every living being in this world - a procreation - set heterosexuals into "extreme" variant? Gays cannot reproduce. From a biological variant it is not normal behavior.
If the nature or God made gays for each other, then anus could be prepared for a long term penetration. But it is not, a gay bowel syndrome, leakages etc. are common after time when it comes to anal sex - for gays and for straight.


You are guessing wrong, but I am not responsible for this. I just said that every minority thinks that what they do is perfectly normal. Whether they are gays, cannibals or people with serious mental illness in a mental institution.
I think the intent of this thread has fallen on it's face when people like this can compare homosexuality to:
  • serious mental illness
  • pedophilia
  • cannibalism
  • murderers
  • the diseased or maimed

This isn't religion. It is hate speech.

What is even sadder, is that I reported this individual, and the posts remain even though it is highly offensive to anyone that is gay.

If you replaced words in his posts with black, trans, women, or jews, he would have been banned and his messages scrubbed.
 

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Well assuming that there is a god (I dont believe there is but let's for the sake of argument there is one) we could never know.

The Bible is full of people's opinions from thousands oof years ago. Jesus didn't write the whole thing himself so. We can't make the jump between what a few followers thought and what jesus may have thought. Bare in mind that if we compare the writings to the media of 2020, its aall down to the agenda of the person writing it.

Why would god create people who have the ability to be gay if he hated it? Surely that would be a major design flaw if he didn't like it? Are we saying an all seeing, all powerful being couldn't iron out that kink in the design?

Personally I think it's all nonsense anyway. Its almost like God has set humans up to fail w unrealistic expectations. How compassionate and loving is that?
 
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I think the intent of this thread has fallen on it's face when people like this can compare homosexuality to:
  • serious mental illness
  • pedophilia
  • cannibalism
  • murderers
  • the diseased or maimed

This isn't religion. It is hate speech.

What is even sadder, is that I reported this individual, and the posts remain even though it is highly offensive to anyone that is gay.

If you replaced words in his posts with black, trans, women, or jews, he would have been banned and his messages scrubbed.

Whilst I agree in principle I do also believe that the only way to change minds and understand how and why people think the way they do is to have open dialogue. Even if that's uncomfortable. This comes from a gay person BTW.
 

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For the record, this is factually incorrect. I am not severely offended by it.

Offense is a funny thing. It's essentially our interpretation of something a person says or does. I'm almost unoffendable, I can't think of a topic that is off limits. Why? I want to understand behaviour. Racist? Tell me more about how you got to that position. Homophobic? Yep I can hear that, let's talk. Sexist? Go for it... Talk to me!

How can people change their minds when we scream about being offended? You will rarely hear me be defensive when talking about a different point of view.

Defensiveness doesn't make change it just embeds people's views. That's why BLM must be super careful in how they speak about their experience. Guide people. Telling people they are abborant and wrong only causes them to dig in their heels.

But hey what do I know....