Is it a problem if the man is truly multi-orgsmic

[thick75]

@alteredego

i your second to last post you said:

"I am more turned on by power exchange than multiple orgasms, though I found that ability very impressive. When we did power exchange, it was always one way. I would use his fantasies to control him through orgasm denial. He never tried to dominate me, and I prefer more versatility. I also prefer to be the submissive role in an exchange. But we had a fantastic time.

Damn you turn me on and I do not even understand some of this. Shows you how horny I am. My question: what do you mean by "orgasm denial"? I know that women have been really aroused by me when I talk dirty. I tell them that they must ask me for permission to have their orgasm..e.g. "You wait for me, i will tell you when you can cum..Wait for me.. etc." Obviously I have no control over her and she really does not need my permission. But it fits into a role of subservient woman who finds her own orgasm more intense. It really turns them on. Of course the woman is not subservient, This is just another way to keep the woman "in the moment". Is this something like what you are talking about? And... what do you mean .. a "D/s term". Is this something I missed from not reading 50 Shades of Grey"? ( I lie and it really helped me understand moire about the mysteries of sex.) Women have a lot of sexual tension and want a stage to release it ..IMHO. I know that I have a lot of sexual tension and I want my stage also.

Just a side note somewhat off topic. Last night was a first for me. I screwed for at least 30 minutes having many orgasms. I never felt I had enough, but I did quiet down somewhat and pulled out. I stood up and was having intense orgasms just standing there. The I started to walk and the orgasms continued. I got a little scared that I had created a monster but I went on. My story continues to evolve. I thought I had done it all. There is more in store for me and I have no clue what the future holds for me. Except that I think it will be exciting and I just hope I can manage what I now know is my addiction. I can only get relief when I can distract my self with daily tasks and I will be aware that I stopped having the urge in this interval. But as soon as I think about it my urge returns. Pleasant, wonderful, but damn distracting. Not sure all of this is really good for me. But I think so. It is a teenage boy's dream come true. Problem... I am not a teen ager. What I really have to do is to convince myself that orgasms are just so-so events and stop making a big deal out them. I don't think I can pull that off and I am not sure I want to demote the orgasm to the level of some routine event. Alright I ramble but you did have the experience with than multi-orgasmic guy so I thought you might relate to this.

Another thought. I know there are many women who are multi-orgasmic and surely they have the same problem as me. Just how do they handle this? They have vagina lips that are massaged just by sitting on something. How does a multi-orgasamic woman handle this? It would drive me crazy. Just feeling my cock rub against my pants is tough enough.

 

[AlteredEgo]

I can't speak for other women, and I'm not exactly multi-orgasmic most of the time. But feeling my clothes on my labia does little for me. The shape of my vulva is such that my clit has very little exposure. When I want an orgasm, I want a vaginal orgasm. Clitoral orgasms feel wonderful, but they do not satisfy me. A g-spot orgasm is much better, but th show-stopper is a fornix orgasm. Either fornix is fine, anterior is easier, but I prefer posterior.

If you managed to sit through the nonsense in 50 Shades, I'm sorry. I feel badly for every sad woman I see in a t-shirt that indicates she want a man like Gray. Fuck that douchebag. A real man communicates. I read the books hoping there would be sme real BDSM scenes, but it was all so lame and disappointing. Anyway if you don't know what D/s means, Google it.

Oh yeah. I forgot to answer your question about orgasm denial. I am a psychological sadist. I like to make my lover suffer, even if I have to physically hurt him to do it, but I strongly prefer to use mental games. Orgasm denial was fun with him because he would break out into a cold sweat, and once, he cried. Begging sounds so much better when the voice cracks, and the breathing is erratic. Eyes are so much more interesting when they are huge, and the whites are red, and the lashes are wet. Well, when I'm in that mood I feel that way. We agree that I own his orgasms, they are mine to permit or deny, and I can go home and leave him wanting if I want. I have used chastity devices with some partners, but not with this guy. He was interested though. I would make him wait, and if it seemed like we were at the limit of his control, I would distract him, usually with pain. Sometimes with a negative turn in the story I was telling him. We always made up stories for each other while we were playing. It was fun.

 

[thick75]

Just when i think that I know something, i find out that i do not know anything. I would like to be a fly on the wall watching and listening to you and that guy make love. Are you telling me that you and he had a "deal" that he would not cum until you released him and to make that work you would administer pain if he started to cum? I have to also admit that I have never thought about telling stories to my partner while making love. I am now reading about this and I will have to learn how to do it. re you saying that in the middle of rising arousal and passion you start telling a story.. "once upon a time there was this prince with 10 inch dick and..". You two are way above me when it comes to innovative sex. You all should put on a sex clinic for the sexually immature like me. When I was referring to telling the woman she could not come until I told her, I was not thinking that if she started to cum that I would somehow hurt her if she disobeyed. Just how would you do this? Now you are starting to scare me. We are going to have to check our whips at the door. As I type this it occurs to me that BDSM (do I have this right?) might be more fun than I guess. I have never been put into handcuffs and then tantalized. You are opening more doors for me. Although I have the incredible world of mind-blowing out of control orgasms callable by me on demand. So I am not sure how I could ask for more than that. If they became more intense I think I would have cardiac arrest. I am just barely able to keep it together enough to survive the next minute.

Small point. For me the orgasms flow. I doubt you or anyone can keep them from happening. I am going to orgasm even though a train came through the bedroom. But I have not had the experience of fucking you, so maybe I am wrong. I am truly learning.

This thread has meandered all over the place, but it has been really interesting. I wonder what the other women are thinking as they read this. Have I just been leading a cloistered sex life? I think I have left myself wide open for every kind of reply.

ALteredego I am starting to get the idea that if you fucked me I would be a shimmering mass of jelly in the corner overtaken by the shock and awe of your sexual experiences. As I think about it that might really be fun. Of course both of realize that this is just a manner of expression. But in sexual fantasies I am putting you on my list. Now I have never thought of myself as inadequate, but it is now occurring to me that I might not even make your top ten. That would really put me in that proverbial corner of jelly.

 

[AlteredEgo]

LOL I realize now how it must sound to someone who wasn't there. We were really good friends, and so I really felt like we each had a pretty good bead on the other's fantasies. A story typically was just a verbalized fantasy based on what we were doing, but with add-ons that we were not actually going to do. Like I might get him to exfoliate and moisturize my legs and feet because he has a shoe fetish. Then I might present him with a choice of stockings and let him choose a pair and help me put them on. Then, I might start murmuring in his ear. "Imagine you were out shopping and you passed a shoe store with an exciting display. You ventured in, and there I was with my knees pressed anxiously together, trying to be patient as I await the return of the clerk. You're perusing the selections, each one more exciting than the last. The saleswoman returns with my requests, and begins to help me put them on. I get up to test the comfort and the appearance from different angles when I spot you and ask what you think. You like them, but make a different recommendation."

At this point I might have him go find what I've hidden in my bag, and bring them to me. Then we'll play with the idea of him trying to fit me with those shoes, and I tease him with my feet against his cock and balls. He really wants to have permission to fasten the buckle and kiss the shoes, so I tease him with the idea that I will let him when I'm ready, and then keep delaying that gratification. We go back to the story, I narrate what's happening, sometimes with input from him. There's always a carrot, he's always trying to get to the carrot. Sometimes the carrot is contact with his fetish item. Sometimes the carrot is more access to my body, or more touching from me. Sometimes the carrot is a sex act of one kind or another. Eventually, the carrot is orgasm. Before he gets to the point of no return, I have to stop him if I don't want him to orgasm. Sometimes telling him to wait will be enough. Sometimes a very hard slap to his backside with whatever I can lay hands on is more effective. It's a distraction.

The same has worked with me. I have one lover who slaps me in the face to halt my orgasm. At least I think that's why he does it. The slap always comes when I'm about to go over. It completely snaps me out of climax mode. The orgasm is still there, just further out of reach.

The idea is to stop it before it is unstoppable. It makes it more fun when it finally happens.

When I say we agree... I make assertions, and he either nods assent or doesn't verbalize an objection. He was very submissive. If I got demanding, he responded well to that. I would say things to humiliate him, but my actions would be gentle and loving, in stark contrast to my words. Very rarely did I have to spank him to stop an orgasm. Usually my insults were enough.

 

[thick75]

Earlier in this thread it was suggested that I pose this question to men. I did this and the link is below.

http://www.lpsg.com/333473-poll-how-many-of-you.html

What I get from the men's answers is that they have little clue about true multi-orgasms. They seem to say that if they can fight through the refractory problem a couple of times they are multi-orgasmic. Well this is true to a very limited extent. But men apparently are not familiar with the choice to become truly multi-orgasmic.

It is also apparent to me that women place a huge premium on the man's ability to match the woman's orgasmic abilities for long periods. To give the women time to orgasm and to do it again and again. It seems to be one hell of a lot more important than the size of a man's dick.

My argument to women is that they should encourage their partner to look into this and perhaps learn it and the woman will get rewarded big time. Now admit it, wouldn't you like your partner to have truly multi-orgasmic ability.. not just the ability to orgasm two or three times... rather MANY MANY times? Think about it you never would have to worry about having to hurry to cum before he gives out. I realize that I am arguing a case while seemingly asking a question. Well it is a question and I would like to hear from women who say that they do NOT want their man to be multi-orgasmic. This should be good. I know there is the urge to "Flame" any man who dares to suggest something to a woman. But be honest, you really appreciate some basic things in sex.. one of them is stamina. So what do you say? If you say you do not want stamina in a man, please back it up with some plausable reasoning. How can this be bad?

Weill i think i just came up with one reason. Suppose the woman does not herself have orgasms. Maybe the pressure of the man having many would put excessive pressure on the woman to perform. Some concept of "One orgasm is bad enough.. why would I want a man to have more?".

I know.. I am guilty again of asking a question, then answering the question and then framing the answer to discourage comment etc. I plead guilty again. But you get the drift. Try to overlook my transgressions and react to the substance and not my form.

Do you want stamina in a man or not?

 

[AlteredEgo]

I just need a man to last long enough for me to climax once. It takes a long time. I don't care where the stamina comes from. I also want us to be done around the same time. Once I'm ready for a nap or a sandwich, I want him to want to move on too. I find that this has mostly to do with chemistry. With some partners I'm never done. With others I want them to stop as soon as I get off.

 

[thick75]

@alteredego

Great point. But i have to ssk... Why are you satisfied with just one orgasm? Do you feel like you could have more if you wanted?

 

[AlteredEgo]

Yes. And I don't always want them. I can't usually have lots in a row. My orgasms take a lot of buildup. It needs to be a certain intensity, or I need to keep going until I get the right orgasm. When I was younger I was anorgasmic. I was still satisfied at a certain point with sex. Now, I'm very rarely unable to climax. I come just about every time, and when I do, it is explosive. But, no matter what is done, there is no post-orgasmic plateau for me. I almost always come all the way back down, and rebuild from scratch. Whether or not I have any desire to work on another orgasm depends entirely on the chemistry between my partner and I. With some I'm disinterested as soon as I climax. With others, it is hard to stop going even when we need to.

 

[thick75]

@alterego

You are a good writer. Very clear. I think about my MMO ability and it would seem that if there was the chemistry you speak of, then you might generate many orgasms IF the man were capable. It is said that a woman gets extreme pleasure seeing and feeling a man cum in her. I know that i really want to feel a woman cum in response to my love making. It always makes me cum. So one feeds off the other. If so, do you think that a multi-orgasmic man would make you also multi-orgasmic (assuming the chemistry)?

 

[thick75]

Oh, and i am assuming that you would like many orgasms rather than just one. True?

 

[AlteredEgo]

I'm typically ambivalent about number of orgasms so long as i have one. If I want to keep going beyond my partner's orgasm, I may not be chasing anoher orgasm of my own. I climax at a rate of one to two orgasms an hour. If you recall, I have already had a man who was mutli-orgasmic. We had very good chemistry. We would go for three hours at a time, sometimes a few times a day for three or four hours each time.

 

[thick75]

@alteredego

Before my recent "conversion" to multi-orgasm capability, i had to really work at acheiving an orgasm. I had to concentrate on my sensations and coach myself to the next level of intensity. Then i would work on the next level. If every thing went well then BANG. But so much could derail me. Any distraction, a negative thought that i might not be able to orgasm, anything that would get in my head. This is where porn would help me. Using fantasy to make me super concentrate. But, for me, the one consistent theme that would get me off is when i felt that woman was orgasming "because" of me. I was able to orgasm with a woman, but it was a chore for both her and me. She had to coach me, tell me how great i was etc. When i thought she was cumming then I could cum. Everthing was mental and i had to have the stars lined up to pull this off. A second orgasm soon after was out of question. Now with my new orgasmic ability i am firing off orgasm after orgasm quitting only when i physically start to wear out. Quitting is hard enough, but knowing that i can stop and start back up quickly will support quiting for that moment.

All of this is to make a point, or at least a question. To me experiencing my partner's orgasm is huge for me. Now i believe that a man's orgasn is about the same as a woman's if the ejaculation component is removed. We know that an orgasm is a mental event. So both men and women can have unlimited orgasms if the ejaculation aspect is removed. So i argue that if a woman can find a man who is multi-orgasmic she has hit the mother load. She has it all. Assuming that my observations are true why would a woman NOT want to have many very intense orgasms? Nowi admit that I am obsessive about orgasms. They drive me crazy with desire. I would have thought that after a while i would tire of this. Literally thousands of orgasms later i am even more ramped up. So i am willing to admit the possibility that I have lost touch with any sense of normalcy.

So what has this have to do with your comments? i would think you of all women, having experienced such a man, would be estatic over many many orgasms. It is all within your control. If you want you can have it. Why not want it?

I guess i an trying to get you to expound on my opinions, theory, experiences from the woman's view. You have been very expressive so far. So let's set the scene. You are under a man. He is cumming and you see it in his face, body everywhere. He is going off big time. This should set you off seeing him cum because of you, you start to convulse with orgasm. The man sees and feels you cum. He then cums again etc. Back and forth with almost no end in sight. AND YOU ONLY WANT ONE ORGASM? OK if you say so, but you come across to me as a very aroused woman who really enjoys sex. I would think that you would be hungry for the next orgasm. WHY JUST ONE?








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Ten minutes is not long enough for me to reach orgasm. And I don't know that I have an ideal size. If I did though, I would have to look for someone hung ideally for me, and who could last long enough.

 

[AlteredEgo]

Let's get one thing straight. I am NOT you. I'm not going to expound upon your opinions from a woman's point of view unless they happn to be my opinions. Many of your opinions are not mine. I am an individual with some things in common with you, not your fucking mouthpiece.

No, I don't have an orgasm just because I made a dude come. Sometimes my semen fetish kicks in and if I find his fluids sexy I migbt have an orgasm just because they spilled on me. But his orgasm on its own does not push me to climax.

You don't seem to retain the details of what you've been told beyond where they support your ideas. I already told you. I was satisfied with sex when I couldn't orgasm at all during sex. It felt really good, and intimate, and eventually I would just feel like I got what I wanted, fake an orgasm, and work on getting my partner off. Then orgasms were occasionally possible during sex and I still didn't always care whether I had one or not, as long as I felt satisfied. Then, I got to where I am now, where I'm almost guaranteed an orgasm as long as we play long enough, and while I'm less likely to be satisfied without one, there have still been times where I have felt very satisfied before an orgasm is even on the horizon.

Goal oriented sex is lame, in my opinion. I just fuck for the sake of fucking. I stay in the moment and enjoy. The goal of sex, for me, is to be having sex, and to exchange pleasure. Once we're touching in a sexual way, mission accomplished. For you, perhaps the goal is orgasm. Well, as I said, I'm not you. It is fine if my partner is goal oriented during sex, and is orgasm driven, as long as they can keep it from creating pressure for me to have an orgasm. If my partner needs me ti come, he might as well go home. I can't come under pressure, and because of that I resent that kind of attitude.

EDIT: Just to clarify, satisfaction doesn't always mean I want to stop. It just means I won't be disappointed if we do happen to stop.

 

[thick75]

@alteredego

Sorry for delay been busy. Getting active on the dating scene. I am estatic about my MMO ability. It is much better with woman.. Dah! She could not believe what was going on with me. She really got off with my endless orgasms. I know that women can be different, but this one really had me going. Our orgasms just fed each other.

Getting back to your post. First you really take you time to write a good post. I really appreciate that. I do understand you.. I think. Back when i had a hard time orgasming inside a woman I would just enjoy the whole action. I wanted to have an orgasm, but i could live with just the pleasure of just fucking without the big O. bTW.. This is point made in the Kama Sutra. There we might go thru 15 positions just enjoying each other. I would get satisfied with a blow job at the end. Really nice. And my partner would have her orgasms even though i was not having one in her.

While all of that is great and i learned to adapt to my limitations, these experiences could not compare to what i am experiencing now. Sharing mutual orgasms is one hell of a lot better. Now i understand that everyone has their own drumbeat, mine says the intensity and feelings of my orgasm greatly
surpasses nonorgasmic fucking. Am i orgasmic goal oriented? Yes, i always have been and i doubt i will change.

So i understand you feel differently. No problem. While i enjoy my partner's orgasm i do not need it to get mine. To the contrary i am going to orgasm now irrespective of what my partner is doing. So you would not have to feel pressure to orgasm with me. But i still believe it would excite you if your partner is obviously enjoying you.

I think i am responsive to your view. Hope i did not miss your point.