Is it gay to jack off a friend, or even suck him?

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OK...if we just kiss, finger, fuck, and spank but skip the sucking and wear condoms and then watch ESPN, is it still gay?

For gawds sake why would you skip the sucking? Sucking cock is the very best part.

Once more I feel compelled to suggest that Gay is really a term relating to attraction, not to sex, per se.


If you are a man attracted to men, want to kiss and caress men, want to fall in love with a man... then you are gay.


If the only thing that interests you about men is cock... that is a form of narcissism... and lust. that is.... every guy loves the feel of his own cock... its not that odd that you might enjoy the feel of another guy's cock.
and every guy has a very powerful drive to have sex.

Sexual pleasure with men does not mean you want to move in and set up a joint account.
It might just mean your horny, and open to the delight of cock as a source of pleasure.


The more you do it... the more you will want to do it... the more comfortable you will become with male on male sexual contact.

At that point the only thing that will keep the cock out of your mouth is the fear that the other guy would call you gay and flip out.


Is it gay?
Well, it is if you're falling for another guy.

If you're just getting your rocks off on stroking or sucking another guys cock, cause its hot....
You may simply be a normal man.
 

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i say, WHO CARES??? Labels are too confining. Don't think of it as gay or straight. if u enjoy it, do it!
 

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Over 70 posts in & still this threads gone nowhere. Largely coz the original question is so fucking lame & badly worded. The person that posed it seems to have fucked off; he's probably too busy sucking cock. WTF does "Is it gay?" even mean anyway? Do you want us to tell you youre gay or do you want us to point out the obvious - 2 men having sexual contact is a gay act? If you seriously want people to answer your questions then cough up more info or dont bother asking in the first place. As it is we're just getting the same answers over & over.
 

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XCUZE, you are so right. So long as we concern ourselves with labels we seem to miss the point. Some men, in some situations, do achieve and do delight in having achieved a deep bonding with another male. As a fifteen year old I was surprised, delighted, and amazed to find myself doing things with my dear friend, a boy my age, that my whole environment seem to frown on. To us it seemed natural and right; we were close friends, indeed, we had become more than just close friends and we wanted and needed ways to express our feelings for each other. The sex was for us the confirmation of the bonds that had come to exist between us. And, we did not stop thinking of ourselves as regular guys.

The summer after our junior year, he was away working on a ranch out west. His father had supplied him with condoms explaining that. "If you're going to be messing with girls, don't be stupid, be prepared." During that summer I had a very extended and comprehensive introduction to what a sexual relationship with a woman demanded and offered. My thought was: "Every guy should be so lucky."


Many years later I continue to honor the love that can exist between two men. I also continue to honor the love that can be between a man and a woman; I have been happily married for a long time, but I remain grateful for my exposure to "that other side" of my sexuality as well. I also honor faithfulness in relationship.
My former partners, three men and two women, are dear friends whom I loved and still love.
 

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well let go into the topic, why do you like to suck his cock? if you like the taste, then you defiantly have a gay side. if you only do it for fun, and don't like the taste then your probably still 100% straight.
 

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Let me out it this way........I'm gay and have many Female friends......It has NEVER occured to me to finger them or et them out....

have to agree with you there for the most part. If I'm really friends with them i'm not usually using them for a booty call. I like 'strange' for the simple reason that it's new and different.
 

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Wow. It blows me away how many guys are ignorant of the differences between behavior and orientation. Behavior is what you do. Orientation is who you are.

Actually, by all accounts, behavior is taken into account when considering orientation. Behavior IS a part of orientation. Theoretically, if you're heterosexual, you CAN NOT receive any sort of remote pleasure from the idea, fantasy, physical contact, etc... involving a man. To say heterosexual means you're NOT SEXUALLY COMPATIBLE WITH MEN.

The obssession with being called "straight" is mostly from the desire to be able to engage in these behaviors but still feel like you're normal. If homosexuality and bisexuality were 100% accepted in society we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Guys are obssessed with asking how far they're allowed to go before they receive the "Scarlet letter". Anything other than hetero (bi or homo) is still given a negative connotation. It's icky, it's "unnatural" so guys want to venture outside their straightness but still retain the title of straight..

"I'm not gay, I just suck dick"

"I'm not gay, I just look at gay porn from time to time"

"I'm not bi, I'm married, I just get fucked by dudes every now and again".

What next? "I'm not a chef, I just cook food from time to time".:rolleyes:

Once we, ESPECIALLY in America, get over this disgusting desire to appear normal, and once we accept different sexualities (having 1 show [Will and Grace] doesn't mean we've been accepted) then people will be less hung up about what they can do with guys and still be called straight. In the mean time, there will always be people asking these kinda questions.
 
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So, marleyisalegend, did you grow up in a small town with "morality snoops" waiting to pounce? It wasn't a disgusting desire to appear normal" but a need to stay under their radars that required my partner and me never to do anything to draw attention when away from our zone of privacy. My partner and I never thought of ourselves as anything but regular guys. At another level, my family viewed me as being different in a great many ways. It was my parents who constantly assured and reassured me that being different was alright. In all my life I have always considered that what happens sexually between two persons is personal and very private and ought to remain so to the rest of the world, including one's family, and future and former partners. It has worked for me. All that the people in general get from me is what they can see. I hope they are as generous in their imaginings of my sexuality as I am toward theirs. I am grateful to have experienced the full range of sex between persons who are not hung up on how they may be labeled. And, I have learned that not all valuable relationships end up in sex, but they are still valuable.
 
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So, marleyisalegend, did you grow up in a small town with "morality snoops" waiting to pounce? It wasn't a disgusting desire to appear normal" but at need to stay under their radars that required my partner and me never to do anything to draw attention when away from our zone of privacy.


How selfish of you! Do you realize how many people DON'T have that freedom to be themselves and be accepted? I absolutely LOATHE these "I"m a contradiction to what you said" type of responses. I wasn't generalizing, I'm aware that what I said isn't true 100% of the time.

Unless you've had your head stuck up your ass your entire life, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Ask Matthew Shephard. Ask the lesbian who couldn't be with her dying wife because the hospital was "against homosexuality". Your experience DOES NOT represent the status quo. Even for those that don't experience homophobia, the fear of it keeps them trapped in a depserate race to attain normalcy. The limited tolerance I'm speaking of is prevelant in EVERY FACET OF SOCIETY.

My partner and I never thought of ourselves as anything but regular guys. At another level, my family viewed me as being different in a great many ways. It was my parents who constantly assured and reassured me that being different was alright.

Kudos to you and yours. But what's your point? Are you somehow convinced that your experience mirrors everyone's? Nothing you've said makes what I posted any less true. You're an exception, NOT THE STANDARD.
 

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Here's the gayometer for actions performed by men....

Looking at other guy's dicks = gay

Jerking off with other guys = gay

Jerking off other guys = gay

Sucking other guy's dicks = gay

Swallowing other guy's cum after sucking dick = Gay

Sucking spooge from one dick
while being fucked by another dick= GAY

any questions?
agreed!very well put!