Is it true that when a woman is wet, she's had an orgasm?

[Iceman2215]

Is it ragtime again so soon?

Considering the frequent complaint of how men think they know everything about women because they leaned something about one woman I would think that the OP should be given points for seeking clarification rather than joining the ranks of the "I already know everything" men we get sick of.

The question he asks may be his issue but what he learns will become the issue for women as he engages in sex with them. How about we do those future women a favour and answer the question on that basis. He seeks better understanding so lets help him become an understanding man.

The abuse and mockery he's been subjected to by the first two respondants are the type that will only create a women's issue for him in the sense that he'll have an issue with women based on the shit treatment he's recieved for the crime of wanting to improve himself.

Another victory for the Bitter Bitches' Board.

Well said Gillette... I am a 36 year old man married for 12 years and I have only hit the tip of the iceberg when it comes to knowing my wife. I try and learn all I can to make our sexual experience that much better each time me make love.
I would like to think if I was confused (this happens often:biggrin1 about the way my wife reacts/treats me, that this would be the place to get clarity about "Women's issues" it may not be my issue but this could affect my wife in some way or another.

Thanks again Gillette

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[B_a new long one]

Sure glad I have met honest people who have answered my questions honestly and with out ridacule.

 

[AlteredEgo]

As a young guy, I once read a book by the famous "Happy Hooker", Xaviera Hollander. In it, she answers questions about sex, speaking from her experiences as a female pimp.

One question she answers is: "how can a man tell whether a woman has had an orgasm during intercourse?"

Her answer: "when your penis is wet to the balls, you can be sure that she's had fun".

Now is this really true? Some of my sex partners are spontaneously very wet, even before the sex starts, and then, when you enter, they just remain as wet. With others, they are not so wet at the start, but end up soaking the bed-sheets. Finally, some are wet at the beginning but dry up near the end.

Confusing!

I believe you answered your own question with your own experiences. Why would you believe something that totally contradicts your own wisdom just because someone got paid to write it down? Where's your healthy skepticism? Your own sexual history has taught you precisely what some ladies here have told you. Every woman is different, and responds differently to sexual stimulation, and to orgasm.

On more than one occasion I've had a man stop what he was doing to me at just the wrong moment. When I'm getting very close to climax, I nearly always tell the man to keep doing whatever he is doing at that moment, because I know that if he does anything different, even if it's something I really like, I will not have the orgasm as soon. In fact, it might be derailed by quite a bit. However, right before I reach orgasm, I usually stop breathing, go silent, and gush from my pussy. Sometimes this is accompanied by redness washing over my face, throat, and chest. More than once have men mistaken this moment as my orgasm and stopped to watch me. Sometimes, they've just been waiting for me to climax, and actually ejaculate thinking we're done. Sometimes, thinking that they've just seen me get off turns them on so much they climax. Always, this is very, very frustrating. Imagine being within seconds of nutting, and then suddenly being maybe 5, 10 or 15 minutes away. It sucks.

I can understand why men would think I've had an orgasm. I really can. However, once a man has given me an orgasm once, he won't ever make that mistake again. My orgasms are... violent. Especially recently.

It just goes to show that all women are different. The best way to know is to know that particular woman. I would always recommend that you keep going beyond what you believe is the woman's orgasm unless she stops you. It has never bothered me to hear, "That was hot. Was it an orgasm?"

 

[finsuptx]

Bitter people lash out because their own lives are so shitty and they just can't handle the rejections, refusals, and general disinterest from other people.

Its okay if you didn't know the answer, Manly (sic), other people did. I'm not going to change you from being a cruddy human being, but I am going to call you out on it. Who hurt you, and marred your existence in this world? My bigger fear is that you are only 12, and we've got a lot of years ahead of us of childish temper tantrums. Grow up.

 

[AlteredEgo]

Bitter people lash out because their own lives are so shitty and they just can't handle the rejections, refusals, and general disinterest from other people.

Its okay if you didn't know the answer, Manly (sic) other people did. I'm not going to change you from being a cruddy human being, but I am going to call you out on it. Who hurt you, and marred your existence in this world? My bigger fear is that you are only 12, and we've got a lot of years ahead of us of childish temper tantrums. Grow up.

She answered the question. At least her post was on-topic. If you want to discuss ladies answering question after question, but only in the manner you think is appropriate, why don't you start your own thread for that?

 

[ManlyBanisters]

As AE said, the guy answered his own question in the OP - it was a dumb fucking question. It got a dumb fucking answer.

And, to funsuptx, yes, that's right, I'm 12 - as my 54 year old, ex-mod boyfriend and the other members of this forum who've met and spoken to me can confirm.

To quote said boyfriend, ban me, motherfuckers.

 

[Sergeant_Torpedo]

Innocence or ignorance?

 

[Iceman2215]

To quote said boyfriend, ban me, motherfuckers.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gillette]

As AE said, the guy answered his own question in the OP - it was a dumb fucking question. It got a dumb fucking answer.

He got some conflicting information from a supposed "pro" so he came seeking clarification. That's not dumb, it's actually quite responsible.

Try to keep your toxicity to yourself.

 

[finsuptx]

I don't wanna ban u bitcheyes, I wanna piss in ur face ;-)

 

[AlteredEgo]

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

I thought your goal was to get the OP's questions answered demurely. Show me one thing you've posted in this thread which was helpful and on-topic. Show me just one. This is not the punish-ManBan-for-being-honest thread. Do you know the answer to the OP? If so, answer it. If not, shut up already.

 

[AlteredEgo]

He got some conflicting information from a supposed "pro" so he came seeking clarification. That's not dumb, it's actually quite responsible.

Try to keep your toxicity to yourself.

While I completely agree with your opening paragraph, I'd like to explain my issue with the closing statement. From my perspective, as someone who barely even gets along with ManBan, there was no problem with her answer to the OP. Was she sarcastic? Yep. Was she caustic? Mmmm.... maybe. But so what? Her obvious translation of the question was that it came from a sexist expectation for all women to be homogeneous dollies who all come pre-programmed with the same response to routine button-pushing. This expectation is unfortunately reinforced by the author of that tired-ass book, and it is one with which we on the Women's Issues board come into contact day in, and day out. You cannot deny that. One might ask if Man-Ban's perception of the OP was off, if her disdain for sexism was misplaced in this case. Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't. We don't know the OP. It doesn't change the fact that Man-Ban's interpretation is valid. She answered the question, she did it in a way which was true to herself.

This whole side-discussion is lame and off-topic. Does anyone else want to tell an anecdote relating to whether or not wetness is a sign of orgasm?

 

[ManlyBanisters]

If I'm really dripping wet after sex it's often a sign that he came.

Does that help?

:smile:

 

[B_johnschlong]

The point was more that Xaviera Hollanders said: look, men never really know whether a woman has orgasmed or not. Men shoot a load of semen - a clear sign of an orgasm. Women don't do this.

And if you ask women whether they have orgasmed, their answer may be unreliable. They may say something to please you. Which is ok.

BUT, says Xaviera, there is ONE bit of proof that is quite solid: when a woman, during the act, is so wet that your penis is wet right up to your testicles, then you know she's had at least 1 or more orgasms.

Men can't fake an orgasm. Women can. But women cannot fake the purely physical reaction of discharging a liquid that is only produced when she's very excited.

So Xaviera wanted to give insecure men a bit of a pointer.

My question simply was whether the women on this forum agree with Xaviera's assessment. She has known many girls and their sexual experiences. But there are other women on this forum, who can corroborate or reject what she said.

That's all.


Some here have said that all women are different. Eh, that's stating the obvious. We don't like the obvious. The question was: is Xaviera right when she says that IF women are so wet, it means for sure that they've had an orgasm?

 

[AlteredEgo]

Some here have said that all women are different. Eh, that's stating the obvious. We don't like the obvious. The question was: is Xaviera right when she says that IF women are so wet, it means for sure that they've had an orgasm?

You need to accept the obvious, like it or not. Because of this basic, obvious truth that all women are different, the will NEVER be a universal sign that a woman has had an orgasm. NEVER. EVER.

As I stated earlier in this very thread: If a man assumed I had an orgasm just because I was extremely wet, he was likely about to frustrate me. Your original quote doesn't even say that this is a sign of orgasm, but rather a sign she's had fun. Well, that's not the same thing, is it?

 

[B_johnschlong]

You need to accept the obvious, like it or not. Because of this basic, obvious truth that all women are different, the will NEVER be a universal sign that a woman has had an orgasm. NEVER. EVER.

AlteredEgo, you're right, but the thing Xaviera said is more Boolean: IF a woman is wet, does it then mean she has orgasmed?

She's not talking about the women who are not wet, even when orgasming. She's only talking about wetness as a definite sign of orgasm.

So we exclude all the women who are not wet, out of this discussion.

Being left with those who *are* wet, we still ask the question: is it definite proof of orgasm? Or are there instances that a woman gets very wet but is not necessarily orgasming?
I'm a man. I don't really know. So I'm asking you. I don't really want to rely on Madame Hollander either, because she just wants to sell books. So I'm asking some other women over the internet.


Well, in any case, it's not that important. I can imagine that some girls orgasm without getting really wet.

 

[Gillette]

Her obvious translation of the question was that it came from a sexist expectation for all women to be homogeneous dollies who all come pre-programmed with the same response to routine button-pushing.

I'll agree that was likely her translation of it.

This expectation is unfortunately reinforced by the author of that tired-ass book, and it is one with which we on the Women's Issues board come into contact day in, and day out. You cannot deny that.

I don't deny the crap we often see here but the book authour and the OP are not the same so tainting the OP with the happy hooker's stupidity IS dumb particularly as he says he doesn't agree.

One might ask if Man-Ban's perception of the OP was off, if her disdain for sexism was misplaced in this case. Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't. We don't know the OP. It doesn't change the fact that Man-Ban's interpretation is valid.

I don't agree that it's valid at all.
We don't know the OP but we are given his reason for starting the thread.
He read something from a pro but doesn't think it's correct and asks us our thoughts on the veracity. That seems a perfectly genuine inquiry to me. It assumes nothing.

To give the OP treatment based on past experiences of other men in this forum rather than as an individual is precisely the same thing we fault the men for sexually, is it not? What a grand hypocricy that we can beat the drum that each woman is an individual and that men should take the time to learn each of us on our own merits and responses, yet fail to reciprocate in the very same thread we say it in.

Just because the answer to the OP seems obvious that does not make the what the OP asked "a dumb fucking question", nor did it deserve 'a dumb fucking answer".

She answered the question,

Actually her first post is heavy on the ridicule and rather light on info.

she did it in a way which was true to herself.

Unfortunately.

 

[AlteredEgo]

AlteredEgo, you're right, but the thing Xaviera said is more Boolean: IF a woman is wet, does it mean she has orgasmed?

She's not talking about the women who are not wet, even when orgasming. She's only talking about wetness as a definite sign of orgasm.

So we exclude all the women who are not wet, out of this discussion.

Being left with those who *are* wet, we still ask the question: is it definite proof of orgasm?


Well, in any case, it's not that important.

Are you reading what we're saying and ignoring us, or just not understanding us? Or is it that our opinions carry less weight because they were given free of charge?

 

[B_johnschlong]

Are you reading what we're saying and ignoring us, or just not understanding us? Or is it that our opinions carry less weight because they were given free of charge?

I try to. Gimme a minute.

 

[Gillette]

Being left with those who *are* wet, we still ask the question: is it definite proof of orgasm?

No. Wetness, no matter how copious, is not definitive proof of orgasm.
Just as some men precum more than others, some women can have their arousal dripping down their thighs from just really pleasant thoughts and not be near having an orgasm.