Is It Worth It? A Small Guy Wants to Know

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  1. jason_els

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    Hi Guys (and girls),

    I&#39;ve gotta tell ya... I&#39;m small. Really small. 4.5"x4" and that&#39;s straining EBPL. Flaccid I&#39;ve got a nub or worse, my dick retracts entirely into my abdomen. Thankfully my balls are normal size (go me), but I feel shortchanged.

    Much of my self esteem is wrapped-up in my dick. Maybe it&#39;s normal, maybe it&#39;s not. It&#39;s the way I am. As a kid in puberty I didn&#39;t notice my penis getting bigger since it seemed to grow in proportion with me. When I went away to boarding school and experienced the joy :eek: of gang showers, I noticed that I was considerably underhung compared to all my classmates. None were as small as I was. Being a small school nobody ever said anything about it even if I was very embarassed. I jerked off with a few of my friends (it was boarding school after all) and fooled around with some gay experimentation and in each case I was comparatively tiny compared to the other guys. When I was a junior, a chick liked me enough to want to have sex with me so I bummed a condom from a friend. I was nervous but, being a 17 year old horndog, I could get it up. Problem was the condom was too big. It was just a standard sized Trojan but I had a really difficult time keeping it on. We had sex a few times after that but I couldn&#39;t find a condom that fit so we had to stop as it kept slipping off. When I was a senior my best friends got together and gave me a "Smallest Dick In School" award :grr:. Had it come from anyone else I would have been deeply hurt but I knew it was done in good humor and they did discount the one freshman who hadn&#39;t started puberty at all. Still, I realized it wasn&#39;t just me who noticed this and I withdrew from any sex at all for 10 years when, while I was making out with a new girlfriend, she suddenly stopped everything when she felt and saw how little I was. Last time I had sex was when I went to a brothel in Nevada 11 years ago. Following that I had a few brief encounters getting blowjobs from older gay guys who thought I was cute and would suck off anything with 2 legs under 40.

    Having such a small dick makes a man wonder about himself. Seeing kids in the gym hung much bigger than I, being completely unable to piss in a public bathroom unless I&#39;m in a stall, even wondering if castration would make this longing go away: all are things that make me hate being less of a man than I should be. You can&#39;t imagine what it&#39;s like trying to take a piss and having to literally pull hard at your dick to make it stretch to clear your pants.

    I&#39;m now 38 and realize how much sex I&#39;ve missed; how many opportunities I had to pass-up. A few years ago I discovered Lifestyles Snugger Fit condoms and found they didn&#39;t slip off&#33; Haven&#39;t used them with anyone yet, but knowing I could is a big boost. I&#39;ve since found Thunder&#39;s, MoS, PE Forum, etc.: all of which promise I can get bigger if I want to. I want to. I need to. I don&#39;t have many years of great all-night sexathons left and I&#39;d love to have a wife and kids. All these routines are going to require major time commitments and some (albeit small) financial investment. The chances I&#39;ll get huge are very slim but if I could even get the standard 6" I&#39;d be walking on air. Just to be normal would be a big deal for me.

    So what I want to know, is it worth it? Maybe I&#39;m fishing for my own lure here, but I want to know if the big guys find having a big dick as great as I imagine it is. I don&#39;t expect it to be a panacea for all my self esteem problems, but I know that my dick is the root of many of them. Tell me about how being big makes you feel. Tell me if it gives you confidence, makes you happy just to know it&#39;s there. These may be silly questions to you but it&#39;s important to me to know that even if it was just you and 4 walls does being well-hung make you feel more of a man? Or is it not all it&#39;s cracked-up to be? I&#39;ve read a lot here and I&#39;ve seen some advantages, some funny things, and some real downers but I&#39;ve never really read anyone write, "I&#39;m glad I have a big cock just for me."

    I&#39;ve been spending some time around here reading your comments, anecdotes, ideas, and problems. It&#39;s really quite surprising that you all aren&#39;t a bunch of dicks about your size. :p I&#39;m finding LPSG to be a cool place, even if I don&#39;t belong here.... yet&#33;

    Thank you all for your writing and time and effort. Talking to guys in a forum like this is like being a local tennis teacher talking to the champion of Wimbledon. I truly appreciate any comments you might have. I will read every one of them and consider them carefully.
     
  2. Imported

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    radiocarpal: Hey look man I have a friend who says that he has a small penis and he also is one of the most confident people i know. He will walk up to girls in a bar and say, "you know, its short but... its thin too. you are going to love it" I swear the guy gets more women than anyone, including his roommate who is know for a big penis. A sense of humor and confidence will triumph over any physical problem.
     
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    carolinacurious: Dude,

    First off, you ARE normal&#33; Maybe a little bit below average but so are around half the guys out there. AND you&#39;re an extreme grower (not a show-er), at least some of the guys at your school were very likely much closer to your ERECT size than you think.

    One of my best friends is almost exactly your size (I have seen it), I&#39;ve known him for over 10 years and I&#39;ve never known him not to have at least one girlfriend. From what I&#39;ve seen he has no problems getting and keeping any girl he wants.

    It sounds like you&#39;ve found a condom that fits, great. There is tons of information here about condoms if you look through the older posts. You can even buy custom fit condoms now. I&#39;m just saying that there are more options out there than you think. Check out condomania (dot com) I think you&#39;ll be surprised.

    Good luck with the enlargement, if it works, great. But you have let this become an unhealthy obsession. There is no reason to have so much of your self worth wrapped up in your dick. Would you be any better of a person if you thought you were God&#39;s gift to the world just because you had a 9 incher? Not in my book.

    There is also no reason to wait a couple of years (while you&#39;re trying to stretch that thing) before you start living your life. Get out there NOW&#33; particularly if you want to have a family. The clock is ticking.

    I suspect you&#39;ll find a woman who appreciates you for who you are and suddenly all this enlargement stuff will fall to the wayside.

    You may want to consider going and talking to someone. You MAY just have self esteem issues which you have attributed to your penis. Let&#39;s say you take a year or two to try to make it bigger and you get it up to 6 inches, and then you discover that there is a new fear waiting for you to keep you from relating to the world. (not uncommon) Then where will you be?

    Anyway, get out there.

    Go talk to a professional if you need to.

    Good luck with the enlargement since it&#39;s so important to you.
     
  4. FonsworthBentleyIII

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    Its kinda good sometimes, but then it turns into "I NEED BIGGER" and it becomes an obsession. And in order to gain confidience from it, you have to actively be thinking about it...how much time do you have to think about your wang? because in everyday life i dont even think about it or notice it because i have aton of other things to worry about.

    Nevertheless, its your choice. If it makes u feel better, go for it, just dont let it become an obsession because then it will never be big enough. ones mans small penis is another mans desire&#33; Not to mention i&#39;m sure you have other things going for you. Sometimes i Wish i could subtract inches from my penis and add it to my height :/...but thats just me.
     
  5. JustAsking

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    Did anyone notice how smooth and eloquent Jason&#39;s writing style is? Jason, what is it that you do for a living? You must have a number of other things going for you to be able to write like that.

    justasking
     
  6. The_One

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    He does have a very nice writing style. ;)


    Truth betold, having an above average penis isn&#39;t all that great. Bigger doesn&#39;t mean better, bigger just means more. More problems, more comments, more stares.

    Not every women, or man sees a large penis, and starts drooling. It truely is a double edged sword. Somedays I am happy I have a large penis, others days, I rue the very same fact.

    Your life, your sexuality, your very being, is all mental. If enlargement will help you, go for it, I just hope you have 12 grand. (12,000 for both the Lengthening, and the Thickening, which happens months later. )
     
  7. ChiGuy123

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    maybe hes got great writing skills because he went to boarding school....

    Which one did you go to? I went to boarding school also it would be hilarious if it was the same one by some odd chance...
     
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    carolinacurious: Jason,

    OK, I give up. I&#39;ve searched Google and my brain and I can&#39;t figure out what EBPL means in this sentence:

    You do have a nice writing style, I hope you stick around.


    What the hell are you talking about?
     
  9. BuffMusicIdol

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    Um, Jason, this may seem very simplistic, but there is some consolation and TRUTH, in what I offer.

    Find someone to REALLY fall in love with. Stop making excuses, be able to make a long term commitment, and find your soul-mate. Dude, it&#39;s the WHOLE package in that case. I have a best friend who is a body builder with a nice sized cock. His wife is TOTALLY unimpressed with his perfect physique and doesn&#39;t care that much for sex. But they ADORE each other, and for them, the whole package is the real deal.

    I grew up scrawny, abused, and felt like I had a small dick. I went through a miserable 23 year marriage and am now remarried. I started lifting weights 5 years ago, and found out at the gym the reason the GUYS were hitting on me is because I was handsome and hung. I was stunned, floored and mortified. I didn&#39;t know how to take it.

    Being remarried to a goddess, who thinks I&#39;m Adonis is more than I could have asked for. My problems didn&#39;t go away, and my lack of self esteem still surfaces frequently. I feel skinny, ugly and small. But I&#39;m happier overall, and my perceptions are changing for the better.

    I tried a lot of exercises and jelqing at Thundersplace.com and other sites. It does help, but it&#39;s SLOW and exasperating. I still think that one of the other posts that talked about confidence and being happy with yourself is the key. You are unique, and chances are, I&#39;d wink atcha if I saw ya, regardless of your size, or lack.

    Be happy, my man. We should be happy for our differences that make us unique. If you want to "improve" for you, then do it, but enjoy the process and be patient with it.

    Best to you.
     
  10. B_werfghj

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    big dicks arn&#39;t all they are cracked up to be, i can assure you of that, I have been turned down by women, and im not that big, but all men of average size or over can carry some dick ego with them, I remember when I met my wife, I asked her,
    after our first encounter, " never had a dick that big before have you?" and she replied, " you are probobly the 4th or 5th biggest I have had, I was floored&#33; man, I carried that baggage around for years...
    anywho.. we are all at the mercy of our egos sometimes, please dont let it plauge you any more. there are more things to life then just cock size.
    Danny :wow:
     
  11. blackwood

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    Jason els.....................

    Any consideration for lengthening should be discussed with a Plastic/Urological Surgeon.

    Dating?? Do It&#33; Perhaps a course of recreational sex will not work..Find the lady at that moment (of your life). Delay any heavy petting which might lead to sex, mostly establish a rapport with her.

    If she is sincerely interested, SHE should love you and want you more than just screwing with you.

    My wife who I still love and adore and I had a very miserable sex life for the first 20 months of our marriage. After the birth of our first, it all improved and penitration ended up very satisfying only moderately uncomfortable for her .

    What is that idea "think out of the box".


    blackwood
     
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    Hey, Jason,

    You have a writing talent, that&#39;s for sure. I was an editor for longer than I want to say, and I say you "have it."

    I really can&#39;t add anything startling to the good advice that has been posted before I noticed your question. But I did want to add my encouragement. You sound like a very intelligent, cool guy. (And I&#39;ve seen smaller than yours; in fact, I had what must have been a 3-incher a while back. But he knew what to do with it&#33;)
     
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    Hey Jason,
    Thanx for the interesting post. I&#39;m not much into sport-fucking. I&#39;m not sure exactly why,but maybe it&#39;s what my parents taught me. I&#39;m more a relationship kind of guy, so to be honest, having a big dick isn&#39;t that important when you&#39;re looking for a loving partner. I have a cool girlfriend now who I love a lot,and I like being with her,making love and just hanging out together. Having a big dick doesn&#39;t help me enjoy being with her more or talking with her or cuddling together or just having fun any more than if I didn&#39;t have one. I&#39;ve never thought too much about self-esteem & maybe that&#39;s because my parents have always given me a lot of positive feedback. My mom never said, "Jeff, you&#39;ve got a big cock, so everything will be perfect for you in your life." She just told me to respect other people and to try to be an honest and caring person.
     
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    You&#39;re not that small&#33; And for God&#39;s sake, it&#39;s no basis for an inferiority complex... there&#39;s no such thing as a good reason for an inferiority complex&#33; Being "big" (or at least as big as I am) changes almost nothing about my life or the way I feel 99.9% of the day. As my .sig says, I&#39;m proud to be an "Italian stallion" because my size makes me feel connected to my Italian heritage which I&#39;m mostly disconned from, and I&#39;ll admit to liking the feeling of being able to "fill out" a pair of swimtrunks or jeans, but that&#39;s about it... I don&#39;t think it has much impact on my ability as a lover much less my worth as a human being. I wish you luck in your quest for size, but I think you may find being larger isn&#39;t all it&#39;s cracked up to be.

    Truer words were never spoken:
    "I don&#39;t believe in &#39;insecurities.&#39; They are a waste of time. God loves you and everything about you, so why beat up on your precious self." - Nicole Ari Parker
     
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    I&#39;m an internet support desk technician. I despise my job. A change of management has turned it from an interesting job of possibilities to a complete quagmire.

    Millbrook School (but now you have to tell me which one you went to. Probably Andover, cocky sobs :p)

    EBPL= Erect Bone-Pressed Length (in other words, I measured honestly and properly)

    Wow, that&#39;s most kind of you. I&#39;m very flattered. You hiring?

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    It seems my trust is well-founded. I&#39;m truly touched by all the heartfelt replies. I am honored.

    I believe I do need the help of a professional to deal with this. The subconcious knows that where the flesh is willing the mind is weak. It&#39;s time I faced my obsession and got a shrink. This won&#39;t be the first time I&#39;ve needed counseling but I have to make it the most productive. It&#39;s impossible, in my current reality, to believe that PE won&#39;t solve this important problem however there is something that&#39;s struck me more than anything else reading these replies.

    You have your hang-ups; some I could never identify with yet realize that my issue could engender the same incredulity in you. Odd how easily I overlooked what must be a most obvious fact: you&#39;re all average guys (and girl B) ) out there living life like anyone else. You pay the bills, go to work or school, have good days and bad like anyone else. You just happened to be well-hung.

    Sounds stupid doesn&#39;t it? Believing having a big cock is means you swagger through life constantly horned, adored by women and envied by men, the clouds part for you when it rains, and you always get a refund from the IRS. It&#39;s so obviously logical that I&#39;m all but worshipping a misguided fantasy.

    How I wish I could get my heart to believe this&#33; As it is now, I can&#39;t let it go. I can&#39;t be happy with what I&#39;ve got though I know there are guys much smaller than I am whether due to genes or misadventure. I see the man I want to be yet cannot find the path to reach him. He&#39;s buff, good-looking, married to Scarlet Johannson (hey, it&#39;s a fantasy), well-educated, and has money enough to be comfortable. And it all comes down to the belief that no matter what I do, I&#39;ll still have snail in my pants instead of a trout so why bother with any of it? Until I discovered PE there was no impetus to change.

    Can you say, "Unhealthy obsession?" :D

    Again, my thanks you all for your help. It&#39;s been very helpful and even though I may not sound convinced at least I&#39;ve realized I have to get some help to come to terms with this. Doesn&#39;t mean I won&#39;t PE, but maybe it can help me learn to accept my limitations and come to accept realistic expectations (though I hear Scarlett likes older men ;) ).
     
  16. B_UNKNOWN321

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    My God we&#39;ve got some support group here. Going to some threads you might think the members are a bunch of air heads here, but not the ones responding to this plea. I think all of you deserve a round of applause since men typically are totally unsympathetic towards any thing agrieving another person, especially another man. Just watch your male friends look at their watch or shift their eyes if you want to say more than "Thank you" after they have made their mandatory "Sorry to hear your mother died yesterday" comment. Is it any wonder that a recent survey found that length and quality of life is significantly enhanced if a man has a close relationship with wife, sister, mother, daughter or other female and the same is true for women. But neither life length nor quality of life is enhanced one tiny speck by only male acquaintances (all compared to those with no close friends). Jason you are very lucky to have latched onto this superb group of caring people who have offered their incredibly insightful advice and support to you.

    I have always been told that I am one of the funniest people around. I don&#39;t think so though I got the customary awards in school to prove otherwise. Since sense of humor (especially of the self efacing type like you probably have) is very endearing to women, you&#39;ve got a huge plus in the conversation arena. It gave me quite a kick once to hear from a friend that Mrs. XXXX said that she was not coming to this packed to the wall party unless XXXX=me is going to be there because he can always keep me laughing making fun of himself. Talk about an ego trip after that one. Certainly that is more memorable than if some woman let her friends know that she enjoyed being with you at a gathering just knowing that you had a big dick in your drawers (or a fat wallet in your pocket for that matter). If you show that you are very responsive to a woman&#39;s looks, her sense of style, her wit and can ultimately let her know that you will do anything to give her mental and physical pleasure, you surely will find one who will grab you and take you off to nirvana.

    Now about the damn lengthening thing in case you have read any of my postings about my going from 6 to 10.5 with gut wrenching tugs for 4+ years. It did work, albeit at a geologically long time scale. I think now it is more a self image thing than any real adjustment in what women will think of you. Maybe if we wore cod pieces and could be judged like fish at the market only for size or shape, it would be different. I would say try the techniques (forget those costly sadistic devices) -- you can do almost all the exercises with just your hands and talcum powder for gripping and lubricants for those needing gliding potential. I would measure constantly -- get to know what will give you a consistently meaningful number (mine was stretched length) and mentally jot it down then wait at least 6 to 9 months and see if you don&#39;t see gradual improvement which if it occurs will probably continue. I am much bigger than I ever really realistically wanted to be, but that comes from many, many, many years of punishing myself emotionally for an average size (even average is small to the possessor) dick so am now on some kind of relentless quest. That is actually bullshit for a man with so many great years ahead like yourself. Try for a couple inches, more if you like, but keep that wonderful sense of humor and keep your head held high and watch the appreciative audience of women let you know how much they value you as a friend and eventually so much more than that.
     
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    I just thought of something that should be of note. When I first got married to college sweetheart I was sitting with this guy at a party who confided in me that though he was 100% gay that my wife was the first woman who he had developed a super hard on for his entire life. He told me that I suppose to flatter me I don&#39;t know, but I always thought she was sexy but more because of electric smile and personality than physical gifts. She has very small breasts and hips that by their size even make the breasts look smaller and also has very thick rather columnly shaped legs -- so she certainly is not the typical Hollywood sex pot as far as endowments go, but what the hell. Anyway thinking of that incident I also remember much later another guy who was a team leader of a multi-state scientific study we were both involved in confiding to a mutual acquantaince who relayed to me -- "I wish that XXX wouldn&#39;t come to these meetings -- I have to keep going to the bathroom to jerk off, she gets me so hard it hurts" Again I was more sickened than pleased at the comment. BUT, the moral of the story is that deficiencies in what we perceive as essential to our sexual attractiveness (large or small as prescribed by current trends) is definitely overrated. You have no idea probably who is out there panting over you just to be near such a super guy because of your intelligence and personality. Had to add that personal bit of revelation (and so that if you ever see a women with tiny breats, ample hips and pole straight legs and a million watt smile -- turn your head the other way, lest you will require some quick turgidity relief -- ha ha).
     
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