Is life over for gays in america?

dad4you

Expert Member
Joined
Jun 17, 2009
Posts
835
Media
0
Likes
150
Points
113
Location
Boise, Idaho
Sexuality
100% Gay, 0% Straight
Gender
Male
I am concerned for what is happening. However, there are also many people who will fight the Neo-Nazi White Supremecists and if necessary will cause chaos for a while. In the end, the Religious Rghtwingers will be seen as nothing more than the McCarthyites were seen in the 1950s as a bunch of power hungry fear mongers and kkkristianity will have even less power and influence than it has now.
 

umdoistressilvaquatro

Legendary Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2016
Posts
1,946
Media
0
Likes
1,595
Points
173
Sexuality
100% Gay, 0% Straight
Gender
Male
I am concerned for what is happening. However, there are also many people who will fight the Neo-Nazi White Supremecists and if necessary will cause chaos for a while. In the end, the Religious Rghtwingers will be seen as nothing more than the McCarthyites were seen in the 1950s as a bunch of power hungry fear mongers and kkkristianity will have even less power and influence than it has now.
Progress isn't inevitable nor irrevocable. It's a falacious thinking to look back to history and conclude that events could only happened how they happened and that our dark days were bound to pass. Sometimes it's quite the opposite that happens. See Afghanistan, per example: not even 50 years ago, they were accepting women in universities and public offices, now they are afraid of leaving their homes without covering their faces. We could almost say that sometimes history goes backwards, but that would be incorrect for considering that there's a normal direction, a natural tendency for progress, when in fact there isn't.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HotBulge

chrisrobin

Mythical Member
Joined
Sep 1, 2016
Posts
10,196
Media
0
Likes
26,263
Points
183
Location
Bournemouth (England)
Sexuality
100% Gay, 0% Straight
Gender
Male
A more pertinent question would be "IS LIFE OVER FOR ALL AMERICA"?

When you get a president elect who think orders are given by twitter what hope when he sits in the chair at the White House and can fire off missives without them being vetted officially.

God Save America - if there's a god!
 

HotBulge

Worshipped Member
Joined
Jul 27, 2005
Posts
2,337
Media
114
Likes
17,375
Points
518
Age
34
Location
Lowells talk to Cabots, Cabots talk to God
Gender
Male
At least when it comes to the nuclear codes, my vague understanding is that there are some internal checks and balances. For example, the five DEFCON levels (1 being the most severe, 5 being the least severe) , describe states of security threats. Donald Trump could hypothetically say, "Let's nuke country X", but having escalated to Defcon 1 before the command, those officers responsible for the launch of nuclear warheads would have to request confirmation that a state of alarm exists. For example, it's rumored that in 1973, when President Nixon was under intense political scrutiny before his impeachment, he would get drunk late at night and issue highly questionable orders. The White House staff knew to double check his more unusual orders.

On the broader issue, "IS LIFE OVER FOR ALL OF AMERICA", this administration may turn out to be an extreme aberration from any administration in the past 60+ years in that is is reactionary, anti-intellectual, and designed to dismantle the modern federal government. They subscribe to some warped Ayn Rand vision of the world.

More specifically, Trump's cabinet choices were chosen for ideological reasons - to curtail, if not undermine the very purpose of the federal agencies they are charged to lead. For example, former Texas Governor Rick Perry has been nominated as Sec of Energy; in a 2012 debate, he famously forgot the name of the Energy Department while trying to list 3 departments that he would eliminate if he were president. (Rick Perry has a bullshit undergraduate degree in animal science (?), and he received Cs and Ds in his science courses. In contrast, the current head of the Energy Department has a PhD in Theoretical Physics from Stanford (?)) These ideologues are determined to role back the modern federal government that has been in existence since the 1940s and Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal programs. Only Americans in their 80s and 90s(+) have lived without the modern federal government. There will be plenty of legal challenges to curtail this reactionary ideology, but I don't think most Americans are

A more pertinent question would be "IS LIFE OVER FOR ALL AMERICA"?

When you get a president elect who think orders are given by twitter what hope when he sits in the chair at the White House and can fire off missives without them being vetted officially.

God Save America - if there's a god!
 

Industrialsize

Mythical Member
Gold
Platinum Gold
Joined
Dec 23, 2006
Posts
22,245
Media
213
Likes
31,914
Points
618
Location
Kathmandu (Bagmati Province, Nepal)
Sexuality
100% Gay, 0% Straight
Gender
Male
The others don't matter, so long as I get mine
And here we have it. I follow the teachings of The Buddha. When asked how we should treat others, he replied that there were no "others".
 
  • Like
Reactions: winesthel945

winesthel945

Legendary Member
Verified
Gold
Joined
Jan 19, 2016
Posts
561
Media
13
Likes
1,899
Points
313
Location
San Francisco (California, United States)
Verification
View
Sexuality
99% Gay, 1% Straight
Gender
Male
Do not lie to me. You aren't looking out for me otherwise you'd realize how little your efforts impact me. I'm just as free to today as I would have been back then. My rights would be pristine. As far as the world knows I'm a "straight white male" and I can prove it. Sorry but my problems don't align with your phantoms. Try again.

It's ok dear, we still love and care for you even if you hate us and hate yourself. You've talked about your Asperger's and your lack of enjoyment of sex, your frustration with gay life, self-hatred and disgust. I'm terribly sorry that you are so damaged and I hope you will find the help that you so desperately need.

As you're moving through your journey of self discovery, you're at the anger stage of grief as you struggle towards acceptance. And that's leading you to not only hate yourself but to lash out at others. I get that... as a song lyric once said: struggling like a fish caught on dry land, struggle to avoid any helping hand.

As you struggle to love yourself and to empathize with others -- and others struggle to empathize with you during your more hateful outbursts -- please understand that there are many out here who care, who hope for the best not just for you but for all who might find themselves in your similar challenging circumstances.

Good luck!
 
D

deleted37010

Guest
It's ok dear, we still love and care for you even if you hate us and hate yourself. You've talked about your Asperger's and your lack of enjoyment of sex, your frustration with gay life, self-hatred and disgust. I'm terribly sorry that you are so damaged and I hope you will find the help that you so desperately need. As you're moving through your journey of self discovery, you're at the anger stage of grief as you struggle towards acceptance. And that's leading you to not only hate yourself but to lash out at others. I get that... as a song lyric once said: struggling like a fish caught on dry land, struggle to avoid any helping hand.

As you struggle to love yourself and to empathize with others -- and others struggle to empathize with you during your more hateful outbursts -- please understand that there are many out here who care, who hope for the best not just for you but for all who might find themselves in your similar challenging circumstances.

Good luck!
kind and brilliant... thank you
 
  • Like
Reactions: HotBulge

keenobserver

Worshipped Member
Joined
Jan 9, 2015
Posts
8,550
Media
0
Likes
13,951
Points
433
Location
east coast usa
Sexuality
100% Gay, 0% Straight
Gender
Male
ok the title may or may not be a bit dramatic, but are you afriad of the next 4 years or for your safety?

Not really, but what comes will come. Actually as I've thought about this post, I did some of my best fucking in times of great oppression. We as a community will face our challenges as we always have - " . . .with love, valor, and compassion."
 

Titanomachina

Expert Member
Joined
Feb 2, 2015
Posts
399
Media
0
Likes
146
Points
78
Sexuality
80% Gay, 20% Straight
Gender
Male
It's ok dear, we still love and care for you even if you hate us and hate yourself. You've talked about your Asperger's and your lack of enjoyment of sex, your frustration with gay life, self-hatred and disgust. I'm terribly sorry that you are so damaged and I hope you will find the help that you so desperately need.

As you're moving through your journey of self discovery, you're at the anger stage of grief as you struggle towards acceptance. And that's leading you to not only hate yourself but to lash out at others. I get that... as a song lyric once said: struggling like a fish caught on dry land, struggle to avoid any helping hand.

As you struggle to love yourself and to empathize with others -- and others struggle to empathize with you during your more hateful outbursts -- please understand that there are many out here who care, who hope for the best not just for you but for all who might find themselves in your similar challenging circumstances.

Good luck!

Again, stop lying. You are vastly misjudging me and my situation. Also there are no stages of grief, that's a psychological myth.

Don't pretend to know where I am coming from.

I don't hate myself, I hate those who pretend to understand me and think they know but only end up showcasing their ignorance. I dislike those who focus on trivial issues rather than the ones that impact the world.
 
D

deleted37010

Guest
There is no self either, learn the whole truth.
"non-Self" is more correct..... no self is incorrect....
as we all learn the whole truth... together
without subject or object.... water pouring into water
 

Brodie888

Worshipped Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2015
Posts
3,068
Media
0
Likes
12,841
Points
233
Sexuality
100% Gay, 0% Straight
Gender
Male
I find it much easier to just ignore the forum zombies. We all know the ones.

Trolls feed on anger. Zombies feed on your compassion and zest for life.

They are the living dead who wonder around these threads not looking for a cure but for opportunities to convince you all is lost and hopeless in order to make you give them more and more.

Okay, maybe a bit over dramatic. But the point is, you don't feed trolls, you shouldn't feed zombies either.
 
  • Like
Reactions: winesthel945
D

deleted37010

Guest
I find it much easier to just ignore the forum zombies. We all know the ones.

Trolls feed on anger. Zombies feed on your compassion and zest for life.

They are the living dead who wonder around these threads not looking for a cure but for opportunities to convince you all is lost and hopeless in order to make you give them more and more.

Okay, maybe a bit over dramatic. But the point is, you don't feed trolls, you shouldn't feed zombies either.
if they just had legible signs telling me who was a troll... who was a zombie... and who was a person
LOL
 

Titanomachina

Expert Member
Joined
Feb 2, 2015
Posts
399
Media
0
Likes
146
Points
78
Sexuality
80% Gay, 20% Straight
Gender
Male
I find it much easier to just ignore the forum zombies. We all know the ones.

Trolls feed on anger. Zombies feed on your compassion and zest for life.

They are the living dead who wonder around these threads not looking for a cure but for opportunities to convince you all is lost and hopeless in order to make you give them more and more.

Okay, maybe a bit over dramatic. But the point is, you don't feed trolls, you shouldn't feed zombies either.

AKA, people with a different opinion than you.

Anyone who thinks differently will try to convince you towards their worldview to avoid questioning their own.
 

Titanomachina

Expert Member
Joined
Feb 2, 2015
Posts
399
Media
0
Likes
146
Points
78
Sexuality
80% Gay, 20% Straight
Gender
Male
"non-Self" is more correct..... no self is incorrect....
as we all learn the whole truth... together
without subject or object.... water pouring into water
No, it is no self. The self is an illusion, it doesn't exist. That's what they believe. Doesn't make it so.