Is MSNBC about to implode?

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Can't wait 'till Rachel Maddow joins the fray on MSNBC in about 10 days with her well-deserved own show. Are there any other gay anchors/talking heads?
 
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Can't wait 'till Rachel Maddow joins the fray on MSNBC in about 10 days with her well-deserved own show. Are there any other gay anchors/talking heads?

So, she is? Funny, I suspected that from the onset but I thought my dykedar needed a tune-up at the time. I like her. She'd be perfect on "The L Word".
 

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But wasn't it Reagan dearest who arranged that unsavory marriage to advance the interests of the GOP?

I think the roots go further back, oddly enough, to the civil rights era when the Blue Dog Dems began their long march over to the Republican party bringing with them many religious Christians. The Democrats also, inadvertently, contributed to it when they took-up the mantle of defending civil liberties for southern blacks, seeing them as way to counter the loss of the white Blue Dogs. Then bring in Goldwater, Johnson (with his Great Society), and Nixon, and the lines were drawn.

What Reagan and Lee Atwater saw was an opportunity to pull in the south by combining conservative principles with religious leanings, even kicking off his campaign in Mississippi. The result was brilliant and pulled in every southern state except Georgia. The great irony is that Reagan wasn't personally all that religious or socially conservative. He found a campaign strategy that worked without realizing that an entire generation of conservatives would grow-up drinking the Kool Aid he himself wasn't all that keen for, becoming in essence, an inadvertant Dr. Frankenstein. If Reagan saw what the last eight years has been like under Dubya, I'm pretty sure he'd be horrified with how his name has been invoked for policies he himself eschewed.
 
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The Republican party as it is now, hoisting the banners of social conformity, big business, super rich, imperialism, and restricted civil rights, has transformed from a conservative organization into a modern fascist party.

Exactly.

I've been saying that for years to people at dinner parties, and I've nearly been burned at the stake. :biggrin1:
 

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Exactly.

I've been saying that for years to people at dinner parties, and I've nearly been burned at the stake. :biggrin1:

Me too. They equate fascism with black and white newsreel footage of goose stepping Germans. The US does not understand what fascism fundamentally is because our propaganda machine during WWII, and virtual ignorance of Franco's Spain, painted fascism as something overtly military. The seeds have been planted and while I think many Republican rank and file would cringe in horror if they understood what is happening, I do not believe the present party leadership necessarily would.
 

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I see Olbermann at least once a week...i live right around the corner from him. after having seen him quite often for a couple of years, in passing, and each time offering a smile of "acknowledgemnt" or hello, while not trying to be bothersome. he never even smiled back.

one day i smiled and said "Good morning", he said nothing back, didn't even smile, not even a nod...

I guess he is not a morning person. :rolleyes:

needless to say, i have not smiled at him or said a word to him since. Not a very pleasant man in person...always looks downright miserable.
I've heard that Keith and Chris Mathews really can't stand each other. Is this true. They're even hosting together during the conventions. I've noticed the friction. They all have really big egos though.
 

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When Bush took office he signaled to the press corps that he would not tolerate too much criticism. If you say too much, you lose access to the "leaks," you lose access to the, "...a top insider said today," and he made that signal the day he caused Helen Thomas's seat to be reassigned from the front of the room to the back. Disapproving reporters would be punished.

News today is supposed to be profitable. To stay profitable then need to have stories to report. If they want the stories first, then news media has to play ball with the administration and they do. There are fewer reporters, declining budgets, and a greater tendency to sensationalistic reporting, if not true muck raking, to gain audience than ever before. As a result, independent investigative journalism has suffered markedly. What we have now are coiffed bobbleheads sweetly reading essentially re-worked press releases from their sources without questioning what those releases say or why. To do so would close access and thus lose viewers. There is always some criticism, some questioning, yet finding hardball interviews with story background investigation is nearly non-existent. The sound bite has become the news.

This in action today:

Wolf Blitzer just reported that the [McCain] campaign has canceled a scheduled interview with Larry King due to an unfriendly segment last night on CNN -- the segment we flagged last night where the network's Campbell Brown grilled McCain spokesperson Tucker bounds over Sarah Palin's lack of foreign policy experience. ...
Blitzer said the McCain campaign complained that Campbell Brown's grilling of Tucker Bounds over Sarah Palin's lack of foreign policy experience was "over the line." -HuffPo

"OVER THE LINE??!!" The person set to become the head of state of this country, in charge of the most powerful military force in the world, embroiled in delicate political situations throughout the middle east, and asking Palin about her foreign policy experience is, "over the line?" Who the fuck are these people?
 
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This in action today:



"OVER THE LINE??!!" The person set to become the head of state of this country, in charge of the most powerful military force in the world, embroiled in delicate political situations throughout the middle east, and asking Palin about her foreign policy experience is, "over the line?" Who the fuck are these people?

I saw that live and something told me this sort of thing would happen. I guess the McCain campaign expects the same treatment they get at Fox News everywhere they go. It must've been quite shocking for them to get asked actual hard questions rather than softballs thrown at them.:rolleyes: I think Tucker Bounds is quite cute, but unfortunately he's now shown himself to be a pussy as well.