Whoa, WHOA.
I know I'm new here, but as a black woman, this thread caught my eye, and I have to say, again, as a black woman, this is TOTAL B.S.
Nobody should be saying "nigger", regardless of the color of their skin. I'm so sick of black people making such a claim, saying that they have a privileged position with regard to language or anything else, so that they cannot be considered racist. Black people's use of the word, or certain concepts, etc., is not only just as racist, but maybe moreso.
The postmodernists' argument that the context defines the reality doesn't apply here. It's a nice bit of logic, but as a practical matter black folks' glomming onto the argument as a convenient dodge serves to create and perpetuate racism. I'm sick of it, and I'm a little shocked that no one else has really called out this person before now.
Whoa, WHOA.
I know I'm new here, but as a black woman, this thread caught my eye, and I have to say, again, as a black woman, this is TOTAL B.S.Don't hold back tell me how you really feel?
Nobody should be saying "nigger", regardless of the color of their skin. I'm so sick of black people making such a claim, saying that they have a privileged position with regard to language or anything else, so that they cannot be considered racist. Black people's use of the word, or certain concepts, etc., is not only just as racist, but maybe more so.It's self-deprecating and self-defeating but it is not more racist.
The postmodernists' argument that the context defines the reality doesn't apply here.Actually it does. You need to read the thread that was cited in the original post my dear. It's a nice bit of logic, but as a practical matter black folks' glomming onto the argument as a convenient dodge serves to create and perpetuate racism. I'm sick of it, and I'm a little shocked that no one else has really called out this person before now. You haven't even been here 24 hours and you want to call me out!?!? Perhaps we need to take this to a PM. Clearly, you have some issues that if discussed in a thread would instigate a battle royale. As a newbie you don't know we are just settling down into some normalcy after a particularly disturbing incident which went on for over a week. I have no desire to further divide and upset the members of LPSG.
PS - Are you Black? I wasn't sure. <---- sarcasm
I'm fairly sure you're referring to that spat we had where I took seriously something you said in jest (about Iraq) - but I'm damned if I can find it. I don't actually recall saying, or even implying, that all Americans are stupid. If you can find where I say that and bung me the link I'll be more than happy to eat my words along with some humble pie.
It wasn't a direct reference. Just something that everyone says. and usually nobody, least of all the frenchman with an exaggerated sense of national and self worth, bats an eyelash. but the comment was not meant to be directed squarely at you, MB2, and I don't recall you saying any such thing specifically, either.
The thread you are thinking of is here, though:
http://www.lpsg.org/et-cetera-et-cetera/55357-youre-doing-heckuva-job-georgie.html
I occasionally use the term Yankee's to people who live in the USA, occasionally one has been offended by this as they have by me referring to them as Americans. If any group uses a term but reserves it for their sole use how can they choose to find it offensive when what we see is that their use of it indicates they find it acceptable. You either have to choose to find the word offensive whatever source it came from, or realise that if it's in common use amongst yourselves other people aren't really going to always believe that it's some in joke amongst yourselves.
I strongly suggest that you check yourself, before you wreck yourself missy.![]()
P.S. The explanation for my profile. Since I am woman of color dressed in a slave costume in my picture I chose to use the antiquated term "Negress" to define myself. As for my behavior it alluded an intention to behave shamelessly ( for those who know me, shameless is relative! LOL! ) with Prepstud and Hickboy in SC as well as being proud to be a negress! Mystery solved! Next! LOL!
What I find racist here is that every single post of Lisasdong has been to do with being Black. While we all should be proud of what we are, but don't come in here and shove the race card down everyone's throat. With posts being started off like "I'm a professional black woman", it automatically gets people started off on the wrong foot. While I respect and am proud of the fact that you are a professional woman, what does skin color have to do with anything--especially in the welcome thread. I can understand it in here, but when you start off posts about race and sex, it can be quite offputting, as people automatically (and often wrongly) associate things with those statements.
This is a heated thread and we all need to discuss these thing, but with a rational and cool head.
Bless your little hearts, precious ones.
We all know that Kimiqueisha has NO shame! :biggrin1:
You mean i didnt knock you out for the evening? I was sure you would have been comotose for at least a few hours after I got through with you this afternoon! :wink:
Sorry I offended you. The introduction was just an introduction. And I thought it important to reiterate that I am a black woman when responding in this thread because something told me that NJQT would consider my position irrelevant if she thought I might be other than black, based on her posts in this thread. After all, she essentially said that there were words that were OK if said by a black person, but racist if said by a white person. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that attitude would extend to thoughts and opinions as well, so I thought I might head it off at the pass by mentioning I am black at the outset. Please forgive me.
Why you would say, though, that it is racist to mention my race, I can't imagine. It seems like you are looking for reasons to take shots. I'll decline to throw a charge of racism back at you, seeing as there's no justification for it. I wish you had done the same.
I think you just came in to a heated discussion and came in strong, that's all.
Well, I haven't met 'all Americans' so I can't comment - I have met some extremely intelligent Americans with a rather polarized view of the world - I have met some quite intelligent Americans who were extremely aware of global current affairs and America's place in the wider scheme of things. I have met plenty of Americans of average intelligence. I've actually only met one stupid American I can think of.
That's why I hope I didn't say, imply or even have been read as saying I think all Americans are stupid, because I don't - and it isn't even my experience of those I have met.
I get your point about reality challenged - though I would call it skewed perspective.