Is porn degrading?

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I definitely don't think it is degrading. It is a job. And several players are involved all signing contracts and the like. However as in many large industries you are always going to get those wackos that somehow get by legally. I have seen some porn in my time, that truly disgusted me, and I was actually angry that they allow it to be screened. But that is the catch 22, someone wants it to be screened. And you assume that the actors and actresses don't mind doing the job allocated to them. So then, who am I to protest if I don't like it. I guess I just wont watch it next time. As for mistreatment, well people always get mistreated. In banks, on construction sites, etc. That always needs to be addressed. And as for fair share of profits, that has nothing to do with degradation. A union is the best way for a group of actors or actresses to make a difference in their working conditions. Untill that is a strong union, the pay will always be miniscule.
 

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To my taste...some are degrading, some are boring, some are fake and few very few good and hot...
 

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If the participants CHOOSE to do it then I have no problems with it. If they end up in the business because of a lack of other opportunity such as going to college, other vocation or means of making a preferred living then I'm not cool with it. It's a big part of the reason why I never have fun at strip clubs because I can't help but think that many of those women felt a lack of opportunity after high school and just ended up stripping to make ends meet; then before they know it it's 10 or 15 years down the road and they're still in it but the younger girls are now forcing them out.

I guess ideally to me they would have had a chance to gain a post-high school education, and then if they chose to do porn then it's a true CHOICE in which they chose to express their sexuality in this manner. And that I can respect.
 

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What makes a lot of heterosexual porn degrading is the idea of objectification. The people in these movies (usually the women) are often portrayed as objects that are simply there for the man's pleasure. They're a means to an end (orgasm) for the man, but their needs and desires aren't often shown. Most of the focus is also put on the woman's body (and often only certain parts of her body) and how they are working to pleasure the man. I think men are often made to look bad in pornography too. They are made out to be selfish and overly agressive, and many times they become diminshed down to just a penis.

It's just like any type of movie though. Some is good, some is bad. Some can make people change their outlook on things and the way they treat others, for the good or for the worse. I think the main thing is that people who are watching it need to evaluate themselves and their feelings towards what they're watching. They need to realize that even though it's really sexy and quite a turn on sometimes, it's not real life and they shouldn't feel like they have to re-enact everything they see in porn movies. Real sex is so much more complex and intimate than porn sex. Unfortunately it's hard to portray a true bond and connection between two people that results in a fantastic physical experience in a short porn film.
 

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yah i don't know if you can show complex connections in porn; possible, but you'll probably need a 90min set up before you get to any sex in the movie. for porn i don't mind some of the objectification so long as the girl is in on that's what's going on. i use porn for a lustful fulfillment not to estatablish intimacy with my partner...that i gotta do myself; so if the intimacy is already there and we just want to stoke the coals of our lust into a fire then that's when porn may be an aide.
 

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Before I can answer, I have to consider whether I would want any female I love to be a performer, specifically, my Mother, sister, wife, daugher, neice, or any friend. I'm surprised that no one else has expressed this in their posts. I have seen sexual intercourse in some movies that didn't degrade women, but I'm unable to say this about the porno I've seen. As often said: "my two cents".
 

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Wonderboy said:
Max Hardcore is a rapist who moonlights as a porn producer/star.

Stuff like that is close to rape.

Most other stuff is cool though, because the women want it and its just fucking. Everyone likes to fuck :p

I didn't know that name until just before, but now I've checked out his website and some articles on him. Wow! I wonder how someone can find that sexy, if it's portrayed in full movie length. The only thing that safes him from being prosecuted as a rapist is that probably he can present signed contracts that state all the action was consent.

I've also read that he has already gone through a lawsuit on child pornography, since the girls in his movies are often displayed as being very young of age (small, frail bodies, bright clothing, etc); but the lawsuit was dropped because sex with persons who are staged as underage is no case for the prosecutor.

I really wonder who looks at this stuff. Makes me puke. Talk about degradation in its purest form here.
 

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Stronzo said:
The thing I fucking HATE about much hetero porn is that it seems very often the dude or dudes end up ejaculating on some girl's face. Invariably (though she has an 'applied smile') it seems she's just doing the job.

I wonder if these women (if they were honest) would actually say they like being jizzed on facially? I've asked any number of my heterosexual female friends who enjoy an active sex life and without exception each has said they "hate it" when a guy comes on their face. But the hetero dudes I talk to all say "oh they love a facial". :33:

I've never cum on a woman's face, I've never asked a woman if I could, and no woman I've ever been with has asked me to. I'm convinced it's one of those things that exists mostly in porn and not in reality.

In general, I'm not turned on by porn unless I'm reasonably convinced that the woman is having fun. This is doubly true for facials because it's pretty rare to see a scene in which she seems happy to receive one. I can count those scenes that I've seen on two hands.
 

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Some yes, some no. Like some other people have said here, I don't like all the facials. Who finds that pleasurable?? Not I. And I'm not that interested in the outrageous stuff like quintuple anal gangbangs and stuff like that. I have watched some straight hardcore porn that I find totally hot though. It just depends on how it's done. I don't watch much porn but when I do, I turn it off or fastforward when the guy is about to cum. It seems it's almost always on her face and I don't want to watch that. :mad:
 

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Stronzo pretty much hit the nail on the head, it depends on what you watch, esp
hetro porn. There is alot of hetro porn that is degrading to women, either professional or amateur. A guy taking his cock out of her ass then making her suck on it IS degrading, I have never seen a woman enjoy that in a straight movie.
If a woman is not enjoying herself, the movie is a turnoff.

Gay porn is a different story. For the most part, guys just like to fuck and enjoy themselves. I do cast a wary eye on some of the European porn produced in eastern Europe. Many of the "actors" are doing it just for the money, and it shows. There are lots of basically straight guys doing gay porn to support their families. Also, I really wonder just how many "actors" are really 18.
The only other reservation I have in gay porn is the resurgence of some of the "barbacking" vdeos, esp. Treasure Island videos. One guy taking 25 to 50 loads of cum up his ass by as many men...... well, you get the picture. I'm suprised that no one else has even mentioned it here on this thread. Is "barebacking" degrading?