Is Therapy over used?

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Unfortunately, it's not just frizzle. It's most people who haven't been through being depressed, or any of the other bad things mentioned here.
I have heard this so many times. They say: "get over it", "snap out of it",
or whatever. It really is condescending. I feel like clobbering somebody every time I hear it...

I hear ya. They all need less shoes so they are forced to run around in other peoples'.... :wink:
 

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Unfortunately, it's not just frizzle. It's most people who haven't been through being depressed, or any of the other bad things mentioned here.
I have heard this so many times. They say: "get over it", "snap out of it", or whatever. It really is condescending. I feel like clobbering somebody every time I hear it...[/quote] Or my all time favorites, "just pray on it." "Your faith should be stronger, you have moved too far away from God." WTF!?!? :confused::eek::mad: If I thought God was responsible for my depression and anxiety I'd never pray again cause I'd be too pissed off.

He may be young, but that is no excuse for being naive to things such as mental illness.
Thank You! I quite agree!


Look at how many people in their 40s aren't doing near as well or as much as you to get it together.[/quote]
Hey Osiris, I'm in the room could you please not talk about me. :mad: Sheesh!:rolleyes: :biggrin1:
 

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I think mistake empathy with naivety. This isn't a problem aged based, I don't see how you can make a judgement based on that. I'm not going to list out my problems, but I've been through alot, probably not as bad as rape victims and the worst situations of the bunch, but certainly worse then your average person.

Like I said before, therapy may be useful to some of the more extreme cases, but if people can go through shit, and come outside smelling of roses, then therapy is over used.
 

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I wasn't born in Victorian times tinky :) the pressures on people are different now. When I was a kid I was in a fairly fortunate position for those times, we never went hungry, we always had decent clothes but it wasn't unusual to be in a family where the kids had holes in their shoes, where they never had a decent meal from one week to the next, where being beaten with a belt was a daily occurrence - I'm sure any of those kids would have swapped the pressures of almost starving for the pressures of being presented with a media representation of female perfection.
 

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Unfortunately, it's not just frizzle. It's most people who haven't been through being depressed, or any of the other bad things mentioned here.
I have heard this so many times. They say: "get over it", "snap out of it", or whatever. It really is condescending. I feel like clobbering somebody every time I hear it...[/quote] Or my all time favorites, "just pray on it." "Your faith should be stronger, you have moved too far away from God." WTF!?!? :confused::eek::mad: If I thought God was responsible for my depression and anxiety I'd never pray again cause I'd be too pissed off.

Thank You! I quite agree!

Look at how many people in their 40s aren't doing near as well or as much as you to get it together.[/quote]
Hey Osiris, I'm in the room could you please not talk about me. :mad: Sheesh!:rolleyes: :biggrin1:

Oh, I've heard that one about "just pray on it" a lot! Yikes! Part of my problem was CAUSED by religion! (now, I'm not saying that all religion is that way, but I grew up around a lot of fundamentalists...)

Yeah, let's not talk about ME, either! :biggrin1:
 

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Unfortunately, it's not just frizzle. It's most people who haven't been through being depressed, or any of the other bad things mentioned here.
I have heard this so many times. They say: "get over it", "snap out of it", or whatever. It really is condescending. I feel like clobbering somebody every time I hear it...[/quote] Or my all time favorites, "just pray on it." "Your faith should be stronger, you have moved too far away from God." WTF!?!? :confused::eek::mad: If I thought God was responsible for my depression and anxiety I'd never pray again cause I'd be too pissed off.

Thank You! I quite agree!



Oh, I've heard that one about "just pray on it" a lot! Yikes! Part of my problem was CAUSED by religion! (now, I'm not saying that all religion is that way, but I grew up around a lot of fundamentalists...)

Yeah, let's not talk about ME, either! :biggrin1:


I also grew up in Fundamentalist environment. I think it really varies in the reactions. I too have heard "You dont need a therapist or medication just pray" My response has been, "Did your diabetes, heart disease, etc. go away by just praying?" I think God made human beings to have common sense and the ability to seek out help when it is needed. I wonder where those kids at V Tech would have been today if perhaps the shooter's parents had gotten him the help he so desperately needed. We have to come out of the dark ages, people. So many mood disorders are our body's way of telling us something is out of kilter. To blame and shame the sufferer is to add insult to injury. NO one I know wants to be depressed or have any other mood disorder. It isnt a game.
 

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Oh the dark hole of Depression i know all too well. It would come out of nowhere like a cold heavy hand on my head. My eyes would burn and i couldnt think. The Brain fog was unreal. It would stay for several days till it would break. I could work and function but the feeling of doom was the worst. I used the word Doom because i cant find the right word to use. The worst feeling is not knowing you are and seeing a stranger in the mirror. I tried Zolof,Paxil etc.they only made it worse. The doctor then had me on Xanax witch helped so much. My years in A.A. taught me we dont take things like this. So one day when i woke up and said this is garbage and i wont take it anymore. He had me on 3mg a day. Do try going cold turkey of this or any medication. This is me. i had worse monkey's on my back . Now some years later im at ease with myself if i have to take one once a week. Things have gotten much better for me. If the depression comes its brief. With Therapy and Meds praying will help. Use every option you have. To the heartless bastards who make light of someone elses pain. This bad Karma that you now sow will come back at you when you are older and cripple your rotting soul
 

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Reading this and other fora I see lots of references to Therapy. Without detracting from anyone's issues I wonder if people become too reliant. There's no doubt that some people need the help of a therapist at times. It seems to me though that some people run to a therapist for help in dealing with the normal trials and tribulations that life throws at most people. Once there do they get into the trap of needing the therapist every time they hit a problem?

As I said before I have no doubt that therapists play a necessary role in some people's lives and in no way am I criticising people for using their services.

I've seen people get addicted to therapy. I've also seen people mistake me for their therapist. "I'm sorry, you seem to have mistaken me for someone who wants to help you sort your shit out." I've even had people mistake me for someone who would listen to them when their therapist told them to stop whining. God, i got tired of that shit.
 

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one more thing: I've seen a lot of people who were helped by therapy. Didn't mean to suggest it wasn't a good thing when applied appropriately. I also think it's better than meds, which definitely have their place but which may keep people from dealing with their shit, which will only come back later.
 

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therapy is overrated and extremely expensive. i don't think a person should seek help unless there was a traumatic event in their life. for instance, soldiers who have been to the middle east. but nowadays everyone thinks their lives are so dramatic, so they have to see a therapist to figure out what's wrong when they can really do it themselves. maybe i should get into the pyschology field and make a butt load of money off other peoples' misery.
 

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i think therapy is needed in the sense that some people simply lack the patience, coping skills, and maturity necessary to handle struggles. some people i think genuinely benefit from hearing a professional opinion, others are just spoiled babies who get upset when they realize the world doesn't turn only when they tell it to and overexaggerate the pain they feel when something doesn't go their way.

i agree with other sentiments though that psych meds are worse than therapists, and are far worse when overused (sometimes when used period).

some people just need a good slap in the face that they never get, so therapy is the only venue for them to hear "the world sucks, deal with it".
 

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Therapy is a scam preying upon folks by making them even more dependent upon therapy.

The most telling evidence concerning therapy is that it has the exact same rate of "cure" as doing nothing at all.

Many members of my family have had LOTS of mental health issues over the decades... I have seen every therapy they have... from electroconvulsive to meds, to group, to recovered memory and its ALL completely ineffective.


Unfortunately most therapies are based upon belief systems about how the mind works that border on religious delusion.
They have little or no evidence...
For example... multiple personality disorder? No such thing...
Subconscious mind? also No such thing...

All behavoir attributed to these imaginary constructs is far better and more credibly explained by one simple assumption...
....Patients LIE to evade responsibility.


When REAL double blind science is done... their 'theories" of mental illness evaporate.... Anti-depressants? they simply do not work for the vast majority of patients... depressed patients given NO drugs and NO therapy recover in the SAME period of time as those getting the drugs and or therapy.

We are only JUST NOW developing the technology to actually observe the functioning of the brain.

Everything Freud and Jung had to say was on a par with scientology. They didn't know anything... and they conducted NO experiments to test their notions...

Maybe in 20 or 30 years we will start to understand how to successfully monkey with the human mind...

But not now.


The best advice for any human being's mental health is this... the less you think about you... the happier you will be.

Whatever it takes to get your mind off of yourself.... do it.

If its hard... if you have worn a real deep groove in your brain with compulsive thinking and self absorption...
then take some classes in meditation.... its good practice on how to quiet the mind... and prepare yourself... if you are dedicated and disciplined in trying to change your habits of thought... it will take as many years of thinking differently to wear a NEW groove as you spent carving the one you are stuck in now.


But therapists are selling snake oil and false friendship.
 

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First let me say of course i know there re legit cases BUT it seems bi-polar is the new adhd. as long as there is neurotics looking for an excuse there will be therapists



Disclaimer: Again, I dont refer to all cases, just the neurotic hypochondriac
ones
 

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Your parents are so involved with your siblings life that they pretty much don't exist.
You have pushed every person you ever considered a friend in your life away from you for some unknown reason.
I want you to be tired, moody, and surrounded by happy people.

Think_Kink, this describes my boyfriend in a lot of ways. Honestly, some of the responses on here regarding 'therapy' are depressing me just to read them! I think the big issue is that some people can afford to see a therapist about minor issues, but those who truly need it don't get the support they need. There are many methods for getting help with mental health issues, and what worked for him was using different sources of help: he's taking prozac, he's seen a counsellor, he's sort help from friends, family and his employer. I don't think he would have got over his latest bout of depression without using all of these things put together.
Therapy/counselling does work, but I totally agree it's open to abuse, but to highlight that problem so much isn't helpful - all professions have those who are unethical. My boyfriend was fortunate enough to a counsellor through the NHS, it was free but he was on a 3 month waiting list. (please don't turn this thread into a debate on the pros and cons of the NHS please!)
Yes, people who get depressed often do get depressed about issues that may seem small and petty to others, but that's often combined with bigger issues. Quite often it's the 'straw that broke the camel's back' that can kick start a bout of depression. My boyfriend has had to be stoical and strong all of his life, constantly putting others before him, but I guess one day he just ran out of steam. I thank God for the counselling, I was very sceptical, but it really worked, he only had 7 sessions. I'm not saying it will work for everybody. I normally just like talking about cock, lol, but some of posts in this thread really made want to wade in.