Is this discrimination considered illegal?

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You are so right. There should be a law, making it illegal to sell food to fat people. You could make them stand on a scale before they reach the checkout line.

Maybe it should also be illegal to provide oxygen to stupid people.


DC u r the truth! People say they are anti-discrmination, but watch how easily they exculde people in their day to interactions with the overweight, homeless....
 

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You are so right. There should be a law, making it illegal to sell food to fat people. You could make them stand on a scale before they reach the checkout line.

Maybe it should also be illegal to provide oxygen to stupid people.


DC u r the truth! People say they are anti-discrmination, but watch how easily they exculde people in their day to day interactions with the overweight, homeless....

People are so afraid to say they are against, something when their personal actions express all so clearly...

BTW-I DON'T ALWAYS RECYCLE!
 

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Okay, alcohol and illegal drugs, sure, but name me one person who can get by without eating food. :mad:

Patsy on Absolutely Fabulous. She claims to not have eaten anything since 1974. Oh, wait. . . that's a TV program. :biggrin1:

And yes, it is discrimination.
 

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Pretty bad situation and quite difficult to do anything about unless you are prepared to put your own position in jeopardy.

I was once in an assistant Manager postion where my Manager was a complete and utter snob. We were hiring staff for various call centre positions. She went through the applications and short listed them for the next stage. She passd them all to me for my input. I asked what criteria she had used as I was bewildered by some of her choices. It turns out she had rejected a lot based on the area they lived. Her reasoning was they they would probably have undesirable accents.:rolleyes:

I was livid and told her so in no uncertain terms. I was aware of her own background of having been brought up in a really bad area. I told her that I knew about that and found her hypocrisy almost as bad as her discriminatory attitude. I also told her that if my own career appeared in any way to suffer because of this conversation I'd make sure she'd regret it. I ended up completing all of the recruitment on my terms and hired some great staff.

I got a few promotions over the years and about 5 years after the event was promoted into a position where I'd be her boss. She immediately took early retirement.

Don't buckle down to these people whatever the consequences or things will never change. Situations have a funny way of turning around sometimes and bullies rarely like being stood up to.:wink:
 

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While I'm in the court officer academy, I'm working as a manager in a place called Red Mango. If any of you are familiar with Pinkberry, Red Mango was the original company founded in South Korea that Pinkberry copied the idea from. Regardless, I'm supposed to hire a new person that we need, and I had a number of people come in today. The chairman and I were sitting in the back of the store and an applicant came to talk to us, he was a bit heavyset. The chairman called him fat, not to him of course, but to me afterward. I would say he just looked big, not muscular, but not jiggy fat...if you put him in a suit he'd look like a bouncer.


So anyway, he seemed very qualified, had a resume, was just trying to make a little extra cash. I had to get approval from the chairman, who is in our store quite often since he lives 10 minutes walking distance. After he left the chairman said, don't hire him. So I asked if he thought he wasn't good, and he replied that he was too fat...and since our product is extremely healthy, he wants people that portray that to customers. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, I just thought it was messed up at the time. I had dinner with the chairman and President of the Red Mango franchises in New York and just during a casual conversation I was asked if I have a girlfriend. I said yes, even though I have a boyfriend, because these are older Korean guys who probably don't tolerate homosexuality. I know being fired over that is illegal, but I could probably rule out any raises if I told them I was bisexual. I still have to hire someone...anyone in NYC want a job? hahaha, come work for the intolerant Koreans!

suppose they ask to meet her ? it's not far fetched...
 

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This is discrimination. But a lot of types of discrimination are perfectly legal in the US. That doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make it illegal.

Overweight people are NOT protected under the federal anti-discrimination law. Neither are homosexuals for that matter. So on the federal level there is nothing illegal about not hiring someone because they're fat. Or because you think they're gay. The only illegal forms of discrimination are against gender, race, national origin, religion, disability, pregnancy, military status and age (if the person is over 40).

However, many city and state governments have wider definitions of anti-discrimination laws and include sexual orientation, marital status, political affiliation, and genetic disorders (which can cover the obese, but not necessarily the overweight).

So whether or not it's illegal depends upon New York law in this case.
 

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You are so right. There should be a law, making it illegal to sell food to fat people. You could make them stand on a scale before they reach the checkout line.

Maybe it should also be illegal to provide oxygen to stupid people.

Proposed legislation in Missisippi is actually proposed that for resturants, the right to not serve overweight customers.

And to the OP: Discrimination, but can you blame him? I wouldn't take advice of my fitness instructor he was overweight so he doesn't represent his services correctly just like the fat man.
 

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Screw you girlie, and the horse that you rode...

Aren't you all high and mighty assuming that all large people have food addictions? Haven't you ever heard of genetics, glandular issues, and being healthy and large or are you too busy burning your scalp and brain cells dying your hair, trying to stay blonde?

Get a clue. If you had a food addiction and found OA or AA to be helpful, then that's great for YOU. If you think everyone who is large needs OA then I have another program for you, it's called CoDA (Co-Dependents Anonymous).

If you learned anything in your 12-Step groups you should have learned that no one else can call anyone else an addict. Addicts self-identify always. You have no right to judge others. That's certainly NOT in line with the 12 Principals. Call your sponsor and find a few CoDA meetings and some compassion or I predict you'll be slipping and sliding your way back to relapse.

And stuff a sock in it until you've had over a decade in a 12-Step program. It sounds like you are very new "sobriety."

How's that for tough love, girlie?!
Actually I am professionally trained I have worked with these programs and also I have been to thousands of meetings with my foster family as well as friends.
Yes, I CAN call some one an addict. I can call them out of control, unhealthy and insane.
I have had many referrals from doctors and I put on many workshops to help people with eating disorders.
I actually have experience thyroid issues myself and have helped lots of people overcome endocrine related problems.
Stop making excuses and getting defensive-typical addict behavior!
I have helped hundreds of people overcome body issues.
I'm in the field so I know what I'm talking about.
 

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Actually I am professionally trained I have worked with these programs and also I have been to thousands of meetings with my foster family as well as friends.
Yes, I CAN call some one an addict. I can call them out of control, unhealthy and insane.
I have had many referrals from doctors and I put on many workshops to help people with eating disorders.
I actually have experience thyroid issues myself and have helped lots of people overcome endocrine related problems.
Stop making excuses and getting defensive-typical addict behavior!
I have helped hundreds of people overcome body issues.
I'm in the field so I know what I'm talking about.

Well, I feel sorry for your patients, Girlie.

You are perhaps the most unempathic counselor I've ever met. It's amazing your patients don't commit suicide. Or perhaps you call that "success" in your treatment program.

I am in the field, and I can tell you with absolute certainty, Girlie, you have no business treating anyone because you have no clue what you are talking about. I doubt you have any professional degree or professional certification. If you do then the licensing board who governs your "practice" should be advised of your malpractice.

Why don't you report who you are and the State where you allegedly practice so I can lodge a professional complaint to your State Board? If you don't do it, you are a fake and a liar. Or, you aren't trained, schooled, and licensed like I thought.

In any case Girlie, you should shut your trap unless you know what you are talking about in cases of addiction. If you really attended thousands of meetings you learned absolutely nothing. One of the main principals that are taught in 12-Step Groups is that no one has any business calling anyone else an addict. If you go to meetings, you go for yourself, not other people.

So, get off the high horse, Girlie, because your cover has been blown. We'll all pray for your alleged "patients."

And refrain from bleaching your hair for a few months. Possibly you might rescue a few of your brain cells that are struggling to live.
 

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nope its not discrimination. and even if it is. if youre a small buisness owner you should be able to hire who ever the fuck you want for whatever reasons you want. if i dont want to hire someone because they are annoying i should have that right, or if i dont like their personality, if i dont aprove of their apperance. this is AMERICA ..!
 

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While I'm in the court officer academy, I'm working as a manager in a place called Red Mango. If any of you are familiar with Pinkberry, Red Mango was the original company founded in South Korea that Pinkberry copied the idea from. Regardless, I'm supposed to hire a new person that we need, and I had a number of people come in today. The chairman and I were sitting in the back of the store and an applicant came to talk to us, he was a bit heavyset. The chairman called him fat, not to him of course, but to me afterward. I would say he just looked big, not muscular, but not jiggy fat...if you put him in a suit he'd look like a bouncer.


So anyway, he seemed very qualified, had a resume, was just trying to make a little extra cash. I had to get approval from the chairman, who is in our store quite often since he lives 10 minutes walking distance. After he left the chairman said, don't hire him. So I asked if he thought he wasn't good, and he replied that he was too fat...and since our product is extremely healthy, he wants people that portray that to customers. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, I just thought it was messed up at the time. I had dinner with the chairman and President of the Red Mango franchises in New York and just during a casual conversation I was asked if I have a girlfriend. I said yes, even though I have a boyfriend, because these are older Korean guys who probably don't tolerate homosexuality. I know being fired over that is illegal, but I could probably rule out any raises if I told them I was bisexual. I still have to hire someone...anyone in NYC want a job? hahaha, come work for the intolerant Koreans!

ummmm did the topic of LPSG surface around dessert time..are they current or past members?
 

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It isn't right to hate addicts but it is right to judge their actions.
Ever heard of drug testing?
Ever heard of getting caught for using drugs?
Those people are getting kicked out of the welfare system. Everything I have said is a fact.
I do believe that help should be available to people with eating disorders just like rehab .
I don't think they should be hated or called names but if the take up two seats on a plane they should pay for two seats.
I don't feel that the obese are entitled to have motor carts to haul them around and over sized anything unless at their own expense.


Here is the first excersize I recommend to anyone with body issues.
Get some lotion and rub it over your entire body.
Make sure that you do not express any negative thought or call yourself hurtful names or put down any body parts. Do not criticize your body or any areas of need. Give complete love and acceptance to all of your physical self.
Repeat allowed. I am lovely and beautiful.
Any ares of need ( improving areas) rub with the lotion and say my tummy is beautiful. My thighs are beautiful. My bottom is shapely and perfect. I love my body.

Your body will respond and if you can learn to stop loathing your body or improving areas then you can start to create what you want for your body.

It is sort of like The Secret. You can watch it and apply it to this excersize.
Learn to stop all insults to yourself.
Some examples are anything that would be cruel or rude if someone else said it. It is the same to your body when you do it .
These internal voices have to learn to be loving and accepting .
Your body hears what you say to it and responds accordingly.

I haven't been doing body image counseling very much in a while and sell body care products and my aroma therapy products. I teach doctors about herbs.
I know I repeat when I write and need to learn editing but I am trying.

The workshops that I created are taught in the US.
Here is a link for more info on learning to love yourself and making peace with your body.

Body image, emotional eating, eating disorders: Body Beloved
 

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nope its not discrimination. and even if it is. if youre a small buisness owner you should be able to hire who ever the fuck you want for whatever reasons you want. if i dont want to hire someone because they are annoying i should have that right, or if i dont like their personality, if i dont aprove of their apperance. this is AMERICA ..!
TRUE!
 

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thats descrimination, but its not illegal. its like hooters turning down a guy that wants to be a waiter there. the company has the right to hire employess based on the image they want their business to portray. i just leanred this last week in my business law class, so dont argue anyone, cause i am looking at the book right now
 

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I haven't been doing body image counseling very much in a while and sell body care products and my aroma therapy products.

Oh, so you have a racket going, eh? I see how it works.

Basically, you are like Amway, Mary Kay, or Avon.

And you have not done body image counseling very much in a while, hmm? Perhaps it's because the licensing board of your State has finally caught up with you, or a formal complaint has been lodged against you by one of your alleged "patients?"

And you still haven't provided any information about your credentials, so I'm going to continue to assume that you don't have any. And just as a warning, States where counseling is licensed prosecute people who don't have a license, education, or proper training who pretend to be "counselors."

I think it would be amusing for you to be a butch's sex slave in the slammer, but perhaps you might want to avoid it. You look rather delicate and one of your mammary glands might pop.