Is this the first step for an excuse to attack Iran

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  1. houtx48

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    I really hope not.

    I enjoy being American very much, and don't take it for granted one bit (all the opportunities that I have that are not afforded to citizens of other countries), but I don't think I can live the rest of my life in a country where the only constant is war.

    I distinctly remember just before 9/11 thinking how nice it was to be able to live my life without worrying about war. This was at a time when my school had a lot of refugee students from various parts of Eastern Europe and Africa who were displaced by conflict. My parents came of age during the Korean War, Cuban Missile Crisis/Cold War, Vietnam War and Gulf Wars, etc. I naively thought that somehow my life would be largely war-free...like my generation would somehow escape that kind of stuff (my parents always told me that's how it would be, I guess to shelter me from reality, or maybe they really were hopeful, not sure).

    10 years later and it's almost like the U.S. being at war is just the way it is. I almost take for granted the fact that Americans (including my brother) are engaged in so many armed conflicts overseas. I know it's a bit naive to think that conflicts will never happen, but I just don't know how much longer I can take it (this coming from someone in the comfort of his own home, thousands of miles away from the actual front line. I can't even imagine what our brave soldiers must go through).

    Not to sound all hippy-ish but I want children one day and I don't want to bring them up in a place where conflict/war is such a way of life as it seems to have become.

    Threatening to move to Canada is so cliche, though. Haha.
     
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    No. This was neither an attack on the US nor on an American citizen; it was an attempted assassination of a foreign national on American soil and as such nowhere near a threshold that might incite war. Moreover, neither the American government nor the American people have any stomach for another war unless and until provoked beyond all reasonable measure.
     
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    I doubt the US is on the brink of war with Iran. First of all, our economic and military resources are already stretched perilously thin. Second, Obama wouldn't want it. He drew down in Iraq, very reluctantly decided to stay Bush's course in Afghanistan, and intervened in Libya only to avert a humanitarian catastrophe. Short of a similar crisis boiling over in Iran, I don't see us stepping in.

    Of course, all bets are off if he doesn't win a second term.
     
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    No I don't think it is a precursor to war, but the USA has threatened Iran with consequencies, and I'm not sure what they could be. It is unsettling.
     
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    LookingCurious, I (and hopefully everyone on this site) thank your brother for his service.
     
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    Remember Obama has not got to have an invasion of his very own yet.
     
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    I'm still going by the portrait in Bob Woodward's book. Obama never wanted to be a war president in the first place. Yes, he felt trapped in the conflicts he inherited, and obliged to intervene in Libya. But he won't start a war in Iran just to teach them a lesson.
     
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    If not it's a good ploy to force China to choose between Iran and Saudi Arabia for oil. Could be used to severely isolate Iran...

    Klingsor, you're too soft on Obama. It doesn't matter how he "felt", the man went to war without congressional approval (we're still fighting it half a year later...it's a war). It's not the US alone that would start the war with Iran...that's more a NATO kind of thing these days...
     
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    I admit that I don't have a crystal ball. I still don't see us going to war with Iran, but you're free to call it wishful thinking.

    And actually, you'd be right.
     
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    Yes, but when it happens it will be George Bush's fault.
     
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    Finally something we can all agree on!
     
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    Going to war in Iran would be an economical nightmare.
     
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    No. Obama doesn't have a darth for a vice-president who lead the entire campaign.
     
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    That's true. He has a bumbling idiot in Biden.
     
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    Haven't we been trying to conjure up an excuse since the Shah was deposed?
    One of the most important lessons warmongers learned from the Bush/Cheney Regime is that Americans will support war(s) if terrorists attack Americans on our own soil.
    We will even support invading a country and killing people who had nothing to do with that attack!
     
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    WORD
     
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    War time economies tend to boom.............but you're going to have to do it right.
     
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