Isnt all a crock of sh*t really?

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  1. Rugbypup

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    OK guys, please wil someone give me an honest (God-strike-you-down-should-you-lie) answer about so called penis enlargment.

    Dose it really work?

    You read so much shit about penis enlargment that im afraid im inclinded to take the skeptical point of view, that anyone saying its possible, has something to sell.

    Can it really be done? Or is it all a route to penis pills, read my website, follow this link type shit, hanging a weight on your cock or pulling, stretching and tugging til you rip a blood vessel.

    If it can be achieved? If so why do all the top medical professionals disagree?

    If it can be achieved, whats the simplest most effective and practical method? Im a modest smaller guy at just 5", every man dreams of a few extra inches but no one can be arsed with a 4 hour daily routine lasting 10 years for .5 of an inch.

    Is it all cock abuse til its swollen bigger and claims of enlargement?

    I throw myself to the wisedom and mercy of the LPSG, please, guys, the truth.

    Yours, pup, x
     
  2. B_Monster

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    Wouldnt everyone be doing it if it did work? Its kind of like snake oil for bald men.
     
  3. Rugbypup

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    ...and if only that worked, it'd have been a $100 dollars well spent and i'd have hair again, lol
     
  4. D_Geffarde Phartsmeller

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    Odds are, it has worked for 1 and only 1 person but that's enough to keep every other guy trying. The one true method to enlarge your penis that absolutely works is through surgery. The "scientific" evidence surrounding stretchers and pills and creams is very shady. I would nevvvvvvvvver spend money on any of that crap if I wanted to enlarge my dick. It's just a waste! I don't see any harm (monetarily speaking) in jelqing cuz all that requires is your hands but that's it. Everything else is just a sham.
     
  5. im7.5

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    it does work but its not going to work over night. it takes months and months (yrs for some) of dedication to see gains. hanging and stretching are the most effective for length gains. go to thundersplace.org and do some searching
     
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    If it did the inventor would hve gotten that prize they're always giving out in Sweden, um what's it called?:wink:
     
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    Do you mean the "Noble Piece Prize"?
     
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    Nobel Prize

    While I like Monster, he loves farting in this forum.

    Yes jelqing does work, yes there is a medical study that shows jelqing does work. ONE study. There is only one study because only one study has ever been done.

    Do it right and it will likely work. Results depend on physiology.

    The only other method of PE which has a study to back it is chemical PE. This is a program of MD-administered injections to create controlled priapisms. The pressure from the trapped blood, as with jelqing and pumping, causes the tissues of the penis to enlarge. Right now only a clinic in Toronto does it and they are seeking a patent for their process so they can franchise it.

    Now, unless someone has some proof that it doesn't work, like a peer-reviewed medical study, please refrain from thread farting.
     
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    The typo was intentional...it was an attempt at a word play.
     
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    Sometimes the line between wit and stupidity is difficult to detect at LPSG. My apologies.

     
  11. newjaytdot

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    Clever word play Aliveboi - I got it.

    I also second the statement given by Jason. It always seems like the ones who perpetuate the claim that PE is hogwash are those that have big penises so they a) have never tried PE, or b) have not tried PE consistently over a long time-period.

    Jason is right about the world of penis enlargement techniques being under-studied. There is only one study done on pumping, and it was done with a small sample for a short period of time. I have not seen any on jelqing, but if there is one I am sure it would not conclusively support a claim on either side of the debate.

    It is sad that we put so much faith in modern medicine, but we still don't even have unequivocal knowledge about what is the leading cause of weight gain. Some claim excessive calories, some claim excessive fats, some claim excessive carbs. There are reasonable individuals with academic and intellectual parity who disagree on medical, scientific, and physiological claims.

    Unfortunately for all of us, but especially those of us who would like to add some volume to our penises, there is inadequate research on the effects of PE. All we have right now is anecdotal evidence. I'm still not convinced that it works; at the same time I'm certainly not convinced that it does not or that it CANNOT.
     
  12. Primal_Savage

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    I’m going to try and cut thru all the BS that’s out there and give you an honest testimonial. First off, pumping isn’t going to work for everyone nor are the results going to be permanent. Ask yourself what type of goal are you trying to achieve. If you’re only 4 or 5 inches in length, forget the idea that you’re going to end up like Jeff Stryker or Michael Brandon. :lol: I’m also believe that age factors into the equation. I was 23 years old when a good bud turned me on to pumping; that was 15 years ago. I’ve also never kept records, except that I was approximately 7.6 in length by about 5.6 in girth. The last time I measured after a week off of pumping my cock was 8.3 by 6.5.

    If you look at one of my pics, I have two cylinders. Most of the time I use the 10 x 2.5 cylinder and do a total of 3 pump sets. Each set is usually 20 to 25 minutes max with 10 minute rest periods. Generally don't use the 10 X 2.75 unless I've already done 3 twenty-minute pumps in the 2.5. Yeah, I love the feel of my girth after pumping, it almost like an out of body experience. Have 4 buddies that I pump with and we're all animals. As two of them are married and need excuses to get out we don't always (all 4) get together. There are other times when I pump alone. Only thing my buds and I haven't sprung for yet is one or two of what’s called a double pump. If you've ever seen the Al Parker vid, those look hot as hell and I can tell you that they really are. I’ve used a double pump a couple of times at white parties and

    The one thing that I really hate about pumping is that the end (or the head) of my cock hangs really weird. Those pics, I won’t show anyone. My buds don’t really care, but I’ve had a lot of girls/women remark that they think it’s absolutely disgusting and that I can fuck em, but that's there no way they'll give me head, lick it or even fondle it.

    My advice is don’t rush into it. And definitely don’t buy any of those cheap toys that you see in adult bookstores. Go with a reputable cylinder maker such as Vacu-Tech (am sure they’re still around). There are others that can be found on the internet. Get good cylinder(s) and go to an autoparts store and buy a pump for draining brake fluid (the ones on the net and the cheap toys are twice as expensive and worthless). Check out sites such as the newart site (if it's still up on the net). Haven’t spoken to Ryan in about 3 years, so I don’t know if it’s a pay site or even alive today. At one time, it was about the best place for advice. Routinely, I pump 3 to 6 times a week depending on time. There are times when I’ve refrained for a week or two or pumped less (I won’t get into that). Yes, I can just about max out my 10 X 2.5 cylinder at the end of a session. Six hours later, length-wise I just about back to normal. Girth is more easily retained, especially with a cockring.

    If you’ve ever seen Max DeLong (and I have up close and personal), all I can say is to me it’s the worst example of what pumping can do. I’d much rather be just plain average in the size department than have a cock as ugly as his. Think about it guys, if you’re on the short side, your girth may end up being just about the size of it’s length. Is it right for you. Do you want to do it just for the fun. You decide!
     
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    thanks primal savage
     
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    Pumping seems a little strange, are you able to have a firm, hard erection after pumping? Am researching it now and on some videos, the guys look swollen and semi erect only?
     
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    The answer to your question is...No...there is no known proven way, outside of surgery, to permanently and healthily enlarge your cock, and surgery is debatable. Think about it...Men until now, for better or worse, have made up the majority of the medical profession and the political arena. That's why women are responsible for birth control with a myriad of options, the right of a woman to choose is even a debate and Viagra exists. I'm sure that the topic of Penis enlargement has been and continues to be researched by the male majority (and probably a few of the females:smile:) in the medical profession. It only leads to the conclusion that if there was a way to do it, some pharmaceutical company would be making a fortune off it by now. You're better off loving yourself for who you are and what you've got
     
  16. Primal_Savage

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    A few other important points, that I failed to mention.

    Why do I pump? Mainly for the fun (especially if I'm with fuckbuddies) or hell of it. Watching late night TV or a porn DVD...self-gratification and really come close to getting off on just the girth. Do my best not to cum till I'm under the sheets, if I'm alone.

    Do I do it to increase size? Hell no, I could care less about being any larger. Performance trumphs size any day. :lol: I can say that having worked tables and private rooms in half the gay bars in the SE. Don't see much point in being the largest of the large unless you're someone like JF (do I need to spell it out?)...real asshole!

    Do I jelq? Nearly as long as I've been pumping. Thus it's hard to ascribe the increase I've seen to either pumping or jelqing alone.

    Also have to agree with Stretch....if you want it hard and firm, then lay off the pump for a few days.
     
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    Beleive what you want but this is the truth. I don't know if it will work for you but it has for me. At age 60, I started PE with a measurement of 7.0" BPEL X 5.5" girth.. At age 61 after jelqing and stretching, I measured 8.75" x 6.25". At age 68 and after refraining from my PE activities for a while I still measure 8.5" x 6.125". I don't think I could claim maturing growth at age 60. As I have posted and illustrated before, I grew from 5.5" at age 16 to 7.0" at age 60 without any regamented PE activities. I'm sure that was from the pulling and strecthing and wishing over the years.

    As someone memtioned early, Thunders is a great source of information and assistance. What every you try(pills are a nono and pumping is mostly temparary gains), Good Luck.
     
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    Pumping and stretching worked for me.

    Surgery is NOT guaranteed. Generally they just transfer Fat from other parts of your body, then you end up with a lumpy cock from whatever the body didn't absorb or burn off.
    Cutting the suspentianatory ligament is another popular one, which leads some men to be limp-erect, meaning they can't stand to attention.

    I went from 4" to 6", thank you very much on PE.

    Opinions are like assholes - everybody has one.

    Until you have TRIED the methods of PE, dont Knock it!
     
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    Just like diet and exercise. Wouldn't everyone be doing it if it did work?

    You can have a firm, hard erection after pumping if you don't overdo it. Pumping is part of what I do for PE, and my erections are better today than when I started. PE has worked for me.
     
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    Unfortunately, not enough people (am including women) even give D & E a chance. As a PT, this is a real sore point with me....namely obsesity in America!
     
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