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You can sit here and debate this until the end of time but it isn't going to change. The neighboring nations deny the right of the nation of Israel to exist. Religiously, they hate the jews and consider them infidels. At one point in time, Israel offered the PLO over 90% of what it requested, and the PLO would not accept the agreement. I seriously doubt there will ever be a man brokered peace in the region. These people have been bitter enemies for thousands of years. Not to mention the fact that a mosque was intentionally built on the foundation of the temple. The people are cousins. The children of the child born from the illegitimate are at war with the children from the child recognized as the heir. There always seems to be hell in these situations.
Notice how the US is on the side of Israel, and Europe sympathizes with Hamas. It's no wonder we might terror by ourselves... everyone else is nothing but terror-loving bitches.
You're funny.
Of course, Europe hasn't had centuries of experience in dealing with foreign and domestic terrorism and the US has. No, wait ...
Notice how the US is on the side of Israel, and Europe sympathizes with Hamas. It's no wonder we might terror by ourselves... everyone else is nothing but terror-loving bitches.
No, no. That wasn't what I was saying. Europe seems to always side with the Palestinians. That was my point. The US has had relatively ZERO domestic terrorism by comparison to Europe. 9/11 simply introduced us to what Europe has been dealing with since the beginning of time.
Notice how the US is on the side of Israel, and Europe sympathizes with Hamas. It's no wonder we fight terror by ourselves... everyone else is nothing but terror-loving bitches.
What you said was below, and I have bolded the elements that were key to my response. The implication was quite plain; Europeans side with terrorists.
Jason somewhat expanded my point which was, primarily; that your view was, and I will put this charitably - simplistic.
Yeah, Europe has been sooooo helpful in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, India...
it would appear Bush's neocon cronies, with the fingers deeply entrenched in the CIA, have been busy of late.
financial ruination wasn't enough, they're going to leave WWIII on the front steps of the White House for President Obama to deal with.
Yeah, Europe has been sooooo helpful in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, India... I don't need your charity, by the way. The European record speaks for itself.
Crazy talkshow host brought up a good point... when this happened (and I saw it firsthand in the news) all you saw was slain Palestinians and Palestinian havoc, and reporting. On the rocket attacks that preceeded weeks earlier... you had to dig VERY deep to find anything remotely similar.
The issue remains that Israel has used and is still using disproportionate force in retaliation for the Hamas rocket campaign, which itself is a response to the UN condemned Israeli blockade which is in retaliation to etc etc etc etc.
Israel knows exactly what it is doing. Day one was some shock and awe, the following days have been the systematic destruction of the Hamas infrastructure. Mr. Ban Ki-Moon has said that he has been deeply distressed by Israel's excessive use of force which has killed so many civilians in breach of International Humanitarian and Human Rights Law. I guess then that he is also a terrorist-loving bitch.
Did Israel ever try to accomodate the democratic will of the Gazans in electing Hamas? That is an honest question. I am not sure what they could have done given the Hamas stance on Israel, but did Israel and America decide from day one that they were going to overthrow Hamas?
Did Israel ever try to accommodate the democratic will of the Gazans in electing Hamas? That is an honest question. I am not sure what they could have done given the Hamas stance on Israel, but did Israel and America decide from day one that they were going to overthrow Hamas?
Yeah, don't ya just hate it when we give 'em all that democracy and they go and vote for the wrong guy...................
What is disingenuous, is to take someone's home, stick them to rot is a shithole and then say "oh my, the nasty terrorists are throwing stones at us when all we want is peace".
Let's not forget that the other country that operated apartheid considered Mandela a terrorist.
Would you mind expanding on what you mean by this? It doesn't at all reflect my experience in the region. Plenty of Jews, regardless of ancestry, hate life in Israel and thus emigrate. I don't think many people living in Dubai think they are missing out on life in Israel. Perhaps I missed your meaning.Let's not forget that the Arabs who lead the best, most easeful lives, live in Israel.