Israel/Palestine: What's your view?

[chrisrobin]

Yawn

Actually that's the way I feel about your rantings - but to polite to say you are merely an idle bystander without knowledge or facts as to the history and truths but just believe you are among gods chosen few

 

[Andyb2]

Actually that's the way I feel about your rantings - but to polite to say you are merely an idle bystander without knowledge or facts as to the history and truths but just believe you are among gods chosen few

So what are you ChrisRobin? A mover and shaker in Middle East politics? Lol.

Ive got plenty of knowledge and facts about the actual history, the good and the bad! I was hoping to learn more here, as I am open to learning, but there’s very little actual material you or anyone else has put forward, more manufactured outrage than anything much else.

The ‘chosen few’ are there to relay His message, but you seem to think other things.
God chose the world (Jews and ALL the others) but He needs you to choose Him too for it work properly.

 

[Industrialsize]

So what are you ChrisRobin? A mover and shaker in Middle East politics? Lol.

Ive got plenty of knowledge and facts about the actual history, the good and the bad! I was hoping to learn more here, as I am open to learning, but there’s very little actual material you or anyone else has put forward, more manufactured outrage than anything much else.

The ‘chosen few’ are there to relay His message, but you seem to think other things.
God chose the world (Jews and ALL the others) but He needs you to choose Him too for it work properly.

There is no god........

 

[Andyb2]

There is no god........

said no one ever in a fox hole getting shot at.

Regardless, I was responding to an aspect of Chrisrobins post. Thanks for your 2c worth

 

[Industrialsize]

said no one ever in a fox hole getting shot at.

Regardless, I was responding to an aspect of Chrisrobins post. Thanks for your 2c worth

Blah blah blah.......

 

[Andyb2]

Blah blah blah.......

You always have such valuable contributions
Shalom

 

[jumbo747jet]

Perhaps you should get your facts straight before judging. This is why I said you were a hypocrite. All the rest of your comments about me are null and void with that glaring error now sorted.

I am curious to know what of what I wrote you think is factually incorrect. Are you denying that Israel are occupying Gaza and The West Bank ? Or, do you believe the support for groups like Hamas among the general Palestinian population would remain the same if occupation ended ?

 

[Andyb2]

You: “Why do I get the feeling you don't want there to be peace between Israel and their neighbours ?”

Klingon: “I don't think anyone has accused you of not wanting peace; “

I was replying more to Klingor’s response but your above comment was made up and false also.

I am curious to know what of what I wrote you think is factually incorrect. Are you denying that Israel are occupying Gaza and The West Bank ? Or, do you believe the support for groups like Hamas among the general Palestinian population would remain the same if occupation ended ?

 

[Klingsor]

You: “Why do I get the feeling you don't want there to be peace between Israel and their neighbours ?”

Klingon: “I don't think anyone has accused you of not wanting peace; “

I was replying more to Klingor’s response but your above comment was made up and false also.

Klingon? If only I were that badass!

 

[Andyb2]

Klingon? If only I were that badass!

If only we all were. Auto spell error, or maybe it knows something we don’t?!

 

[Klingsor]

If only we all were. Auto spell error, or maybe it knows something we don’t?!

Heghlu'meHQaQjajvam.

 

[Andyb2]

Heghlu'meHQaQjajvam.

nanu nanu ?

 

[aymenalexbob]

We'll, my wife she's Arab Muslim and she had sex with both of them, she prefer the Israelis than the Arab at bed

 

[Klingsor]

We'll, my wife she's Arab Muslim and she had sex with both of them, she prefer the Israelis than the Arab at bed

Well, that settles it then.

 

[zinderel]

Yawn

Andyb2: "If we can’t even discuss that reasonably here how do we expect the Middle East leaders to work out a reasonable solution."

 

[zinderel]

So what are you ChrisRobin? A mover and shaker in Middle East politics? Lol.

Ive got plenty of knowledge and facts about the actual history, the good and the bad! I was hoping to learn more here, as I am open to learning, but there’s very little actual material you or anyone else has put forward, more manufactured outrage than anything much else.

The ‘chosen few’ are there to relay His message, but you seem to think other things.
God chose the world (Jews and ALL the others) but He needs you to choose Him too for it work properly.

Andyb2: "If we can’t even discuss that reasonably here how do we expect the Middle East leaders to work out a reasonable solution."

 

[zinderel]

said no one ever in a fox hole getting shot at.

Regardless, I was responding to an aspect of Chrisrobins post. Thanks for your 2c worth

Andyb2: "If we can’t even discuss that reasonably here how do we expect the Middle East leaders to work out a reasonable solution."

 

[Andyb2]

@zinderel your attitude towards me seems to be the same as towards the Israelis - not allowed to defend themselves.

Tell me, have you viewed what the senior Hamas leaders son had to say about Hamas? Why don’t you at least try to educate yourself? Perhaps we could have some fruitful discussion about whether you agree with him or not and why.

I’m accused of being an idle bystander yet there’s a view from someone intimately involved, heavily involved more than anyone on here, and NOONE has had the balls to view and comment - is it because you know you don’t have an answer to his criticisms?? His comments show you up for being flakes.

Until you have the balls to view and respond thoughtfully - stop wasting my time.

 

[phonehome]

@zinderel your attitude towards me seems to be the same as towards the Israelis - not allowed to defend themselves.

Tell me, have you viewed what the senior Hamas leaders son had to say about Hamas? Why don’t you at least try to educate yourself? Perhaps we could have some fruitful discussion about whether you agree with him or not and why.

I’m accused of being an idle bystander yet there’s a view from someone intimately involved, heavily involved more than anyone on here, and NOONE has had the balls to view and comment - is it because you know you don’t have an answer to his criticisms?? His comments show you up for being flakes.

Until you have the balls to view and respond thoughtfully - stop wasting my time.

Why is it SO HARD for you understand or even seriously consider the idea that IF Israel quit fucking with the Palestinian's every time they turn around, something they have been doing for FIFTY YEARS, WAY before anyone EVER heard of Hamas who you always keep trotting out as your favorite villain that not only is it possible but probable that the Palestinian's would have NOTHING to "react to" and with no "reaction" and that is how I and many view it then Israel would NOT NEED or more to the point "have an excuse" to "defend itself"

Which is why I keep asking the question which you studiously avoid answering

WHAT IF IT WAS YOU !!

You would just keep bending over and taking it ?

You would NEVER say "Fuck this, I have had ENOUGH of this shit" ?

Why do you think they turned to Hamas in the first place??

 

[zinderel]

@zinderel your attitude towards me seems to be the same as towards the Israelis - not allowed to defend themselves.

Tell me, have you viewed what the senior Hamas leaders son had to say about Hamas? Why don’t you at least try to educate yourself? Perhaps we could have some fruitful discussion about whether you agree with him or not and why.

I’m accused of being an idle bystander yet there’s a view from someone intimately involved, heavily involved more than anyone on here, and NOONE has had the balls to view and comment - is it because you know you don’t have an answer to his criticisms?? His comments show you up for being flakes.

Until you have the balls to view and respond thoughtfully - stop wasting my time.

Not at all. Defend yourself as needed. But don’t be an asshole about it. Take in facts that contradict your narrative, instead of calling everyone who challenges you an anti-Semite, or pro-Hamas, or a secret Palestinian and ignoring what they have to say in order to keep blowing them up.

When someone disagrees with you and presents facts you can’t refute, you can try to wrap your head around facts that conflict with the narrative you’ve sold yourself…or you can just follow Israel’s example and overwhelmingly and indiscriminately blow up anyone who disagrees with or challenges you.

Enemy, ally, or civilian.

And, just like when Israel uses their doctrine of overwhelming retaliation whenever Hamas sends a whole lot of bottle rockets into Israel in protest of yet another neighborhood bulldozing and then whines that people are calling them oppressors and lashes out with accusations of anti-Semitism for any criticism of human rights violations, you WILL be called out for your hypocrisy.

So, again: defend yourself all you like, but when you contribute to the coarsening of dialogue after whining that dialogue is so coarse? Expect to have that hypocrisy pointed out.

Every.

Time.