Israel Preparing Assault on Iran's Nuclear Sites

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I think the US should do it. All Super powers deserve to go out with a bang and now it's game over for the US they need a big finale.

The story is about Israel striking Iran not the US. The US is no more finished than any other major superpower, in fact probably less so if anything.

Stupid comments like yours are best left unsaid. It should be easily understood by anyone who has any brains that if there is ever a major war that nukes will probably be used which will not leave anyone in good shape.
 

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In a story, from the same source linked from the above:

Shimon Peres Dismisses Talk of Israel Attacking Iran

Talk about misleading signals. :cool:


The article you linked to is a subset of an article written elsewhere (the London Times). For a little perspective, one should really compare the titles :
Notice the [not so] subtle change in emphasis ... I imagine based on an assumption that many of Fox's target demographic wouldn't follow up and read the source article, one which presents a rather less ... 'alarmist' commentary. Regardless of Israel's intentions; the superficial appearance is usually exactly that.

Fox News; fair and balanced? Not so much.
 
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Hmmm - hope they don't.

If they can manage to take out Iran's nuclear programme without any other side effects, then fine - but it's likely to cause a whole heap of new problems.

Wonder if there is actually a decent answer to this? Attack Iran's nuclear sites and risk a dramatic escalation of the probs in the Middle East - or sit on it until Iran's in a position to attack them, and suffer the consequences? :s
 

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Notice the [not so] subtle change in emphasis ... I imagine based on an assumption that many of Fox's target demographic wouldn't follow up and read the source article, one which presents a rather less ... 'alarmist' commentary. Regardless of Israel's intentions; the superficial appearance is usually exactly that.

Fox News; fair and balanced? Not so much.

Why must you be so goddamned sensible all the time, huh? Always have to be thinking for yourself, bringing in logic and reason and shit. Unpatriotic killjoy.
 

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I have to relay this story::biggrin1: I have a hot fuckbuddy and her and I play with other couples and groups. Wednesday we hooked up with this couple incredibly hot couple and the guy was Iranian. His wife was a 9.5, former model.

We end up fucking each other's girl and during the breaks talking about what would happen if Israel bombs Tehran. I am pounding his wife, he is plowing my GF and we are discussing Israel/Iran. Surreal.

He made a goog point: If Israel bombs Iran, that will simply solidify Islam and they will rally around Ahdiemijad (sp). Large segments of Iran want closer ties to the West but an Israeli attack would make that impossible. Talk about a rock and hard place for the US.
 
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Talk about a rock and hard place for the US.

I agree. If at all possible I think Israel and the US should avoid going it alone on this one - because if the slightest thing goes wrong the international community (with maybe the exception of Britain) will immediately delight in condemning you.

I'd hold off until it becomes obvious what the only reasonable course of action should be - and the UN is forced to ask for assistance at some point.
 

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If Iran wants nuclear energy, then why not give them the same offer we gave North Korea and actually do what we say this time? We offered to build North Korea light water reactors from which fissile material cannot be harvested. If Iran doesn't trust us to build it then get the Russians or French to build them. Doing this would call Iran's bluff on their entire nuclear processing program and portray the US (and other western nations that might help broker the deal) as willing to assist Iran with its problems. If Iran balks, then the world would plainly see that nuclear weapons really are Iran's goal and nobody wants an Iran with nuclear weapons.
 

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If Iran wants nuclear energy, then why not give them the same offer we gave North Korea and actually do what we say this time? We offered to build North Korea light water reactors from which fissile material cannot be harvested. If Iran doesn't trust us to build it then get the Russians or French to build them. Doing this would call Iran's bluff on their entire nuclear processing program and portray the US (and other western nations that might help broker the deal) as willing to assist Iran with its problems. If Iran balks, then the world would plainly see that nuclear weapons really are Iran's goal and nobody wants an Iran with nuclear weapons.

As a theoretical scernario that works fine, but when or if Tehran's bluff is called - and let's be under no illusions about the fair certainty that it already has been - (behind closed doors) then it would put even more, perhaps irresistable pressure on the West (and/or Russia and China) to act (militarily) as a result. I doubt anybody wants that either, and I include the Israel in that.

Until then, the US (et al) can berate Tehran, Israel can posture. But in the absence of proof, none would have carte blanche to take any actual action because it would be based on a public perception that Iran's persuit of weapons is merely an allegation (does that sound familiar?). I doubt that's a desirable outcome either.

But talk, and sanctions while ineffective at least provide the masses with the illustion of doing ... something while actually doing nothing, playing the waiting game in the hope that things may change. It may be a vain hope but it's cheap and 'comparatively' risk free.

In that sense, Iran has 'us' right where it wants 'us'.
 
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