Issues with Wife in bedroom?

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MB, are you saying that you think that Drifter's friend's husband is happier with her cheating on him than he would be if they were openly polyamorous? A sort of unspoken but understood, "I just don't want to know, just let me pretend it's not happening" sort of situation?

Actually, my FB's wife does seem to think exactly that way. They apparently have an open relationship, but she doesn't want to know ANYTHING about what he does outside of their marriage. It really does seem to be a 'just let me pretend it's not happening' situation.
 

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Actually, my FB's wife does seem to think exactly that way. They apparently have an open relationship, but she doesn't want to know ANYTHING about what he does outside of their marriage. It really does seem to be a 'just let me pretend it's not happening' situation.

If they have an open relationship then he is being honest with her. She knows that he's sleeping with other women. He's not deceiving her or cheating on her. The conditions are that she doesn't want to know the details. That's quite a bit different than most men whose partners don't know anything at all.
 

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If they have an open relationship then he is being honest with her. She knows that he's sleeping with other women. He's not deceiving her or cheating on her. The conditions are that she doesn't want to know the details. That's quite a bit different than most men whose partners don't know anything at all.

She doesn't want to know ANYTHING! He has to conduct himself as though he is cheating. However, you're right - there is honesty at the heart of it.

Personally, I would rather people be honest. At least then you can make an informed decision - whether to stay, work on the relationship, or leave.
 

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She doesn't want to know ANYTHING! He has to conduct himself as though he is cheating. However, you're right - there is honesty at the heart of it.

Personally, I would rather people be honest. At least then you can make an informed decision - whether to stay, work on the relationship, or leave.

The fact that she knows makes a big difference, even if she has such strict conditions.

I know that not everyone is like me, but I would really prefer honesty, too. Luckily for us, our sexual appetites and tastes are well matched, but if something were to happen, such as if my hormones were to change due to my age (I am older than him) and I became no longer interested in sex or I was unable to satisfy him sexually due to some other reason, I would prefer it if we had an open relationship than for him to deceive me. Our relationship consists of a lot more than just sex, although sex is a large part of it, and I wouldn't want it to end because of any sexual incompatibilities, but I would want complete honesty about it.

We aren't so conventional that we've never discussed an open relationship before now, either. I don't have the courage for it! I know how much he loves me, but I'm not so confident of my beauty and charm that I don't suspect that he would easily find a 21 year old woman with a perfect ass who loves anal sex and who is brilliant and charming, too. He is gorgeous and gets hit on by beautiful young women all the time and I'm older than him and insecure about that and probably on the verge of getting stretch marks! It would end up making me neurotic and paranoid and very unhappy, at least right now.

But things would be a lot different if I weren't able to satisfy him the bedroom. I think the likelihood that I would lose him would be greater if he wasn't sexually satisfied and I'd be much more open to the idea of including other partners if the meant that he would be happier with his marriage to me, as long as it was done honestly and under certain conditions, of course! I wouldn't want to include just anyone in our life, especially when we have a child.
 
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The fact that she knows makes a big difference, even if she has such strict conditions.

I know that not everyone is like me, but I would really prefer honesty, too. Luckily for us, our sexual appetites and tastes are well matched, but if something were to happen, such as if my hormones were to change due to my age (I am older than him) and I became no longer interested in sex or I was unable to satisfy him sexually due to some other reason, I would prefer it if we had an open relationship than for him to deceive me. Our relationship consists of a lot more than just sex, although sex is a large part of it, and I wouldn't want it to end because of any sexual incompatibilities, but I would want complete honesty about it.

We aren't so conventional that we've never discussed an open relationship before now, either. I don't have the courage for it! I know how much he loves me, but I'm not so confident of my beauty and charm that I don't suspect that he would easily find a 21 year old woman with a perfect ass who loves anal sex and who is brilliant and charming, too. He is gorgeous and gets hit on by beautiful young women all the time and I'm older than him and insecure about that and probably on the verge of getting stretch marks! It would end up making me neurotic and paranoid and very unhappy, at least right now.

But things would be a lot different if I weren't able to satisfy him the bedroom. I think the likelihood that I would lose him would be greater if he wasn't sexually satisfied and I'd be much more open to the idea of including other partners if the meant that he would be happier with his marriage to me, as long as it was done honestly and under certain conditions, of course! I wouldn't want to include just anyone in our life, especially when we have a child.


I don't think I would be able to handle an open relationship personally, although maybe I would feel differently if the time ever came. But I would still prefer to know what was going on. Then we could at least try to work on whatever it was that was less than good in our relationship.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if this is why guys go to other guys (not that I am recommending that) but I have had sex with alot of straight married men. They all said the samething about their marriage. I didn't consider any of them gay, just in need of a release with someone who really desires them to be naughty and sexual. It's hard I guess when you have so much responsibility at home to get in the mood (I'm assuming). I dated one guy for a whole year while he was married, he said I made is marriage alot better, she didn't suck cock, therefore never swallowed. And she would never allow him to fuck her in the ass, and that's where I fill the void. Everyone one is happy and everone is pleased. She was a flight attendant and so she would be gone for a week or so, I'm sure she was gettin her issue on the side or maybe not. All I know is that we had an understanding and he was happily married. Just be safe and honest to the other person if you choose to have an affair.
 

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If her jaw hurts then she should alternate between sucking you and just licking the head while she strokes you, then back to a few thrusts in the mouth, then stroking again. Key is a lot of lubrication. It may take longer to get you off, but blowing a huge cock can be hard on the jaws. You can let her know that you love when she gives you head, but you don't want her to be in pain so just having her mouth on you, her tongue licking you while she strokes your cock is pleasurable too.

As to the more recent comments on here... I have mixed feelings. I don't advocate cheating but damn if I don't understand women who don't WANT to be turned on. I cringe whenever I hear a girlfriend talk about withholding sex because she was mad over a fight they had due to his not doing the dishes which he stopped doing because she always complained about how he did them. I see too many women who create drama, who won't fuck their husbands, who practically push men into affairs and then berate them for cheating. And it pisses me off whenever anyone lives down to a stereotype.

Then again, there are a lot of asshole men out there who treat their wives like crap or who screw around even though they have a fine sex life with a loving wife at home. So I guess I can't just call it an absolute wrong every time any person strays outside their marriage.

I don't understand it either when I wanna make the best out of intimacy and exploring her body. I am a giver in bed, but it comes to a point were I would also like some affection given back.

This is funny, but she has a young 24-25 yr old hot 5'8" brunette that she works with. She just got married and her hubby won't fuck her. She is hot as hell and he is not something you would think she would marry. He's a bit on the fat side and ugly. Anyways, he's gone a lot for work and she's horny as hell. Even when he gets home he won't fuck her. The other day we got a post card in the mail from Adam - n - Eve. On the back it had a deal for 5 dildos for free if you order X.xx amount of products. My wife told me to order something and get the free dildos. I immediately said "WHOA BABY". Then she goes yeah, so I can give them all to the poor gal at work! :frown1: My wife is always yackin about this gal and how she thinks I'd really like her sex drive and rather have her! LOL. Then lays the guilt trip on me that "is our sex life really that bad" since I give it to you 2-3 times a week deal. :mad: It's not the quanity women, it's the quality and how you make the man feel. I'm sure my wife wouldn't like it if I slapped lube on my dick and slammed her till she came and washed off.
 
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I have several questions for the women here and guys too if they have any input in this issue.

We will be married for 9 yrs soon. We have 3 children together.


What does your wife do for fun/in her down time and does she have any down time?

I can tell you from experience that I went through a period where I wasn't at all interested in sex because it became another chore in my life. When you have no free time and you feel like everything in your life is an obligation to another person, sex just gets added to that list of obligations.

I also presume that you have young kids. I know that for me, the constant knowledge that someone was going to barge into the room or come crying/knocking at the door meant that I wanted to get sex over with before someone came in to ask fro a drink of water/a bandaid/ another kiss goodnight. It adds up to an absolute inability to ever relax, which also means that stepping outside of the sexual routine may not be appealing.

Do you have better sex when you're on vacation? I knew that I was okay -- and that my marriage was okay -- when we fucked like bunnies twice a day on the verandah/couch/bed of our cruise suite while the kids were in the kids' club. Knowing that my Blackberry wouldn't buzz, the kids wouldn't interrupt, and that I didn't have to clean the sheets did wonders for my sex drive.
 

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I immediately said "WHOA BABY".

I don't get it. Why did you say "Whoa"? You should have encouraged her to buy herself a dildo!

Women's sexuality doesn't work like a man's does. It not like if she uses a dildo then she won't want to have sex with you any more. It's usually the opposite. I know that the more often I masturbate, the more often I want to have sex with TheBoyfriend, and if I'm not masturbating, then the frequency that we have sex goes down. The more aroused I remain in general, the more he benefits. Women have a huge capacity for sex and we can have an almost unlimited number of orgasms.

Don't discourage her from exploring her sexuality on her own. It may be what she needs.

Unless I totally misunderstood that and that wasn't a "Whoa" meaning "Stop" but a "Whoa" meaning "Wow"?

I don't mean to repeat myself, but have you seen a sex therapist or a marriage counselor together? These are issues that probably won't be solved by posting on LPSG.
 
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I'll tell you man. This is a rough road. I have been married awhile and have a lot of married friends. And I think this is one of the differences. My wife was sooooooo sexual when we were dating. I thought I couldn't keep up! But over time all sorts of shit gets in the way -- the jobs, the kids, the house, everything. And we've had sex for years now. But after the kids came, our sex life went downhill and has never quite recovered. Oh occasionally we will have the midafternoon quickie. If we plan for it, we might even have the all night gourmet love making session. But we both work a lot, a whole lot, because of our jobs (which we both love) and even times when we could have sex, we are often exhausted.
I read this book a long time ago called "His Needs, Her Needs" written by a guy who was basically trying to recover marriages in ruin. Basically, what the guy says is that women and men place a different priority on different things in a relationship. Women, above all else, value affection. They desperately want to feel loved. This might be different for every woman (should you buy her a card, rub her shoulders or just simply say "I love you"). My wife likes to be touched. A lot. NON-sexually. In fact, if I touch her sexually initially, she almost instantly shuts down. She wants to be loved, first and foremost.
Men, we want sex. Period. We want sex and sex and sex. Look at the way gay men talk to each other on this website. Is it a lot of "you are so special", "I want to hold you," "I cherish you." NO it is "god that is a big, sexy cock!"
Many women don't appreciate or often are horribly condescending when it comes to how much we need sex. We need it. Now there are some men out there who seem not to need it. But I think they are in the minority for sure. When I got married, I assumed that the sex would continue the way it was before we were married. I knew it wouldn't be as hot as the beginning of our relationship. But I didn't think it would fade out the way it has to become some distant player in my relationship. My wife used to tell me to "go fuck" other women because I was so horny all of the time. She didn't have the energy. And I have done all of the housework, got up with the kids at night to feed them and change the diapers, did the laundry, cooked AND worked.
We are just wired to have different priorities. To my wife, the children are always the number one priority. Always. And any time she is not doing something with or for them, she seems to be stricken with guilt. I would love to take her on dates every week. But half of the time she bails so that she can spend time with the kids.
This is a hard issue, man, and again, I feel for you. Honestly. Anyone who sits back on this thread and takes pot shots at you is being a dick, period. You are talking about stuff that is very real to a lot of us and putting it out there. I wish you good luck man.
I know I'm not getting divorced. But I am not going to let my sexuality go either. I'd go to the strip club every day if I had to to feel young and vital. But that's just me. But I would love to have beautiful, satisfying and amazing sex with my wife every day (or even every other day) too. I've just learned to settle with what I do have. Although, I agree, it is definitely not ideal.
 

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I don't get it. Why did you say "Whoa"? You should have encouraged her to buy herself a dildo!

Women's sexuality doesn't work like a man's does. It not like if she uses a dildo then she won't want to have sex with you any more. It's usually the opposite. I know that the more often I masturbate, the more often I want to have sex with TheBoyfriend, and if I'm not masturbating, then the frequency that we have sex goes down. The more aroused I remain in general, the more he benefits. Women have a huge capacity for sex and we can have an almost unlimited number of orgasms.

Don't discourage her from exploring her sexuality on her own. It may be what she needs.

Unless I totally misunderstood that and that wasn't a "Whoa" meaning "Stop" but a "Whoa" meaning "Wow"?

I don't mean to repeat myself, but have you seen a sex therapist or a marriage counselor together? These are issues that probably won't be solved by posting on LPSG.

The Whoa I said to her was like "WOW". I thought she actually wanted them for herself. Then when she said they'd be for her gf at work then I was like "oh" ok. I have bought her a few toys. She has a rabbit dildo, smaller vibrating dildo, and a glass g-spot dildo. Has she ever used these by herself or with me? I highly doubt it. I know she hasn't with me. But she is getting more open about pleasuring herself! We hav a small vibrator from a cock ring and she has used it during foreplay and sex recently. I do encourage her to explore herself. I don't think she's ever had her fingers inside herself before to pleasure her. She thinks that's gross for some reason!
 

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I'll tell you man. This is a rough road. I have been married awhile and have a lot of married friends. And I think this is one of the differences. My wife was sooooooo sexual when we were dating. I thought I couldn't keep up! But over time all sorts of shit gets in the way -- the jobs, the kids, the house, everything. And we've had sex for years now. But after the kids came, our sex life went downhill and has never quite recovered. Oh occasionally we will have the midafternoon quickie. If we plan for it, we might even have the all night gourmet love making session. But we both work a lot, a whole lot, because of our jobs (which we both love) and even times when we could have sex, we are often exhausted.
I read this book a long time ago called "His Needs, Her Needs" written by a guy who was basically trying to recover marriages in ruin. Basically, what the guy says is that women and men place a different priority on different things in a relationship. Women, above all else, value affection. They desperately want to feel loved. This might be different for every woman (should you buy her a card, rub her shoulders or just simply say "I love you"). My wife likes to be touched. A lot. NON-sexually. In fact, if I touch her sexually initially, she almost instantly shuts down. She wants to be loved, first and foremost.
Men, we want sex. Period. We want sex and sex and sex. Look at the way gay men talk to each other on this website. Is it a lot of "you are so special", "I want to hold you," "I cherish you." NO it is "god that is a big, sexy cock!"
Many women don't appreciate or often are horribly condescending when it comes to how much we need sex. We need it. Now there are some men out there who seem not to need it. But I think they are in the minority for sure. When I got married, I assumed that the sex would continue the way it was before we were married. I knew it wouldn't be as hot as the beginning of our relationship. But I didn't think it would fade out the way it has to become some distant player in my relationship. My wife used to tell me to "go fuck" other women because I was so horny all of the time. She didn't have the energy. And I have done all of the housework, got up with the kids at night to feed them and change the diapers, did the laundry, cooked AND worked.
We are just wired to have different priorities. To my wife, the children are always the number one priority. Always. And any time she is not doing something with or for them, she seems to be stricken with guilt. I would love to take her on dates every week. But half of the time she bails so that she can spend time with the kids.
This is a hard issue, man, and again, I feel for you. Honestly. Anyone who sits back on this thread and takes pot shots at you is being a dick, period. You are talking about stuff that is very real to a lot of us and putting it out there. I wish you good luck man.
I know I'm not getting divorced. But I am not going to let my sexuality go either. I'd go to the strip club every day if I had to to feel young and vital. But that's just me. But I would love to have beautiful, satisfying and amazing sex with my wife every day (or even every other day) too. I've just learned to settle with what I do have. Although, I agree, it is definitely not ideal.
I'm in the same boat as you. I just figure I will keep trying with her and hopefully someday she will finally figure out that "wow" I have a hubby that really wants to please me. Maybe I should think about sex more often, instead of the kids, house, work, etc. She's contstantly thinking about the kids. But even if we would go out on a weekend and stay at a motel, it wouldn't be good sex. She would be worrying about if someone could see us, or hear us. Talk about ADD!!!
 

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Dear K_H, Ihope you constantly think about your children too! It's a tremendous privilege and responsibility to be chosen by a child to be its parent. It is one of the most important things you will ever do in your entire life, raise those young beings into good humans. That is one thing the fathers of my children agree with me about totally-- nothing, especially our own pleasure, comes before what our children need.

No we are not married any more, but this has never been in doubt. As long as you and your wife keep this value in common, there is hope for your children. It sounds like you are both employed so time with the kids has to be scheduled in as well as your sexy times. I am sure you can arrange something that works.
 

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There are women out there that would kill to have not only my wives looks but her body to go with it. 5-7 155 lbs blonde hair Brown eyes 36ddd 25 38 but yet she has no clue what to do with it. Same thing everytime after 20 years it gets old. It's good but I would love some spice. I gave her permission to go fuck whoever she wanted asked her to do threesome told her I want to watch while someone (well endowed) Fu ked her silly and she tells me I need mental help!!! I give up!!!!!
 

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Counseling for couples is what I would do before giving up, Rondul. If she says you need mental help, so does she. Tell her you won't do it unless she comes along. When it comes to the sex in a partnership, nothing is just one person's problem. That part of your 'anatomy' is shared.
 

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I have to say that my wife has been doing a bit better in the bedroom. She is "wanting" my cock way more and coming on to me much easier. We've even been messing around on the couch with the little one running around. She's been Sooooo wet that her juices have been running down my balls and on the bed etc. She's been way more open to taking her top off also and putting her nice little tits in my face. I love it!