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The Professor 2 said:
And amazing students they are...they will change the world, not just BITCH about it

....... well you'd certainly know bitching since you're so proficient at it yourself:rolleyes:.

I'm doubting your 40% there mon ami... unless of course you suffer from Log Cabinism.

And of course you know my sexuality for if, in fact, you possessed your purported "40%" of gayness you'd never have made such a telling comment now would you?

You're not even subtle when you show your homophobia.

** why do we get a token one of these roughly once a month??:33::rolleyes:
 

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The Professor 2 said:
Say something - anything - good about the US or keep your painted lips shut unless and until you can put yourself in someone else's position who is NOT fortunate enough to be an American...Madame?...give me a break!

Oh, Betty, please.

Thankfully for us, Zora's less likely to stop speaking her mind than you are to stop chasing teenaged boys.

Always makes me chuckle when those who would talk about Good Old American Free Speech with moistening eyes try to silence their "Fellow Americans."
 

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LPSG - well I guess I have met the largest PRICK here! I don't care for labels stud...if you need to wear one on your sleeve then go ahead. Don't worry...it shows - enjoy!
 

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"It's a challenge to the plain language of the Constitution...There is a sense that the president has taken signing statements far beyond the customary purview."

This is the understatement of the week. This isn't new. He's been raping our rights for 1 1/2 terms and most people haven't lifted a finger to stop it, nor do they realise what's happening in our government. There have been slow, subtle changes allowing someone as fatuous as Dubya to freely violate our own Constitution.

Press Secretary Tony Snow said, "There's this notion that the president is committing acts of civil disobedience, and he's not. It's important for the president at least to express reservations about the constitutionality of certain provisions."

They use this one on car lots and it's called the bait and switch. Have we become so apathetic that the White House can issue this rubbish and it mostly goes unchallenged. Why did it take the Senate this long to catch on?

The bill-signing statements say Bush reserves a right to revise, interpret or disregard measures on national security and constitutional grounds. Some 110 statements have challenged about 750 statutes passed by Congress, according to numbers combined from White House and the Senate committee. They include documents revising or disregarding parts of legislation to ban torture of detainees and to renew the Patriot Act.

Most people, including myself are too young to remember exactly what happened to allow a man named Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz to overtake Fulgencio Batista in 1959. He also calls himself President.

Defending Bush, a Justice Department lawyer said the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks had made it prudent for the president to protect his powers with signing statements more than did his predecessors.

Dictators said the same thing...they knew what was best for the country. I'm sick of 9/11 being used as a license to make our decisions for us.

The exchange came during a midterm election year in which Specter, some fellow Republicans and many Democrats are highlighting concerns about the administration's use of executive power. Specter's personal list includes Bush's warrantless domestic wiretapping program, the administration's checking of phone records and the sending of officials to hearings but saying they cannot answer lawmakers' questions on national security grounds.

It's a start but what the hell took them so long? 9/11 was nearly 5 years ago!!

The president is entitled to express his opinion...

This is true. Opinion doesn't mean putting his scrawl everything he pleases, circumventing our rights in the process.

"I don't know why the issue of presidents issuing signing statements is controversial at all."

The King said the world is flat, it must be flat. This statement is asinine. Dubya said it, I believe it, that settles it.

Other presidents have used signing statements for administrative reasons, such as instructing an agency how to put a certain law into effect. They usually are inserted quietly into the federal record.

The word quietly is disturbing. Our legs are being chewed off, oh so quietly and oh so gently.
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@ The Professor- I've lived outside this country and that's precisely the reason I'm so alarmed. The fabric of our country is unraveling at an alarming rate. I love my country and hate what's happening to it. If you lived in a beautiful mansion and a gang of thugs broke in and started smashing things and fucking your daugher, would you yell at her saying "it's a beautiful house, shut your fucking mouth"?

You obviously know a lot less than you think you do. Shove your head back up your ass where it's been.
 

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The Professor 2 said:
LPSG - well I guess I have met the largest PRICK here! I don't care for labels stud...if you need to wear one on your sleeve then go ahead. Don't worry...it shows - enjoy!

From the bottom of my heart:

Thank you.

Signed, 'stud'
 

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11incher said:
This presidential power has been around for over 50 years and used by every president.

It's the manner in which it is used that's in question here. No president until now has used the power to exclude himself from the provisions of the law. Until now, it's been used to clarify law, not modify it.
 

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The Professor 2 said:
And amazing students they are...they will change the world, not just BITCH about it

Perhaps you should look to the top of this page you're reading and check those words that follow lpsg.org. They say "discussion forums".

Therefore what you have been reading, these discussions, are in fact the very purpose of this forum.

Furthermore, this ability to EVEN HAVE this kind of discourse, debate, and even disagreement with issues that affect all of us as a people is, and ALWAYS was, the very nature, the essence of this "Democracy" that you pretend to defend in your rants.

That you are (presumably) an educator and don't seem know this concerns me. I feel sorry for your students.
 

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The Professor 2 said:
Get a life...who are you to call me "dumb fuck"? Your ignorance is evident about democracy. So if you don't like your government, change it. Spare me the drama you queen :rolleyes:


With all do (due) respect of course :biggrin1:

Thanks professor, I won't be taking grammar lessons from you any more than political ones.

Defending our country from corruption from within IS patriotism. I love my country enough to defend it, sorry you're too fucking dense to understand that, but it's hardly my problem.

bush is a symptom of a disease, not the disease itself. He was NOT elected, and the MAJORITY of voters did NOT cast their ballots for him. If you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, you will never garner respect, at least not around here. Please keep talking though, it gives the rest of us someone to take shots at and reconfirm for ourselves why open discourse is so vital.
 

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The Professor 2 said:
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Say something - anything - good about the US or keep your painted lips shut...
Zora, I didn't know you paint your lips (upper or lower...)

What do you use, a good Krylon Spray Paint for good coverage and durability, or do you go with a bucket of Laura Ashley Designer Latex Wall Color, for the richness of color and the prestige of a designer label? Or if you color-coordinate the mouth lips with the cunt lips, do you have to buy a double-batch-for-the-snatch-to-match?
 

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DC_DEEP said:
Zora, I didn't know you paint your lips (upper or lower...)

What do you use, a good Krylon Spray Paint for good coverage and durability, or do you go with a bucket of Laura Ashley Designer Latex Wall Color, for the richness of color and the prestige of a designer label? Or if you color-coordinate the mouth lips with the cunt lips, do you have to buy a double-batch-for-the-snatch-to-match?


Oh thanks, that was a good one!

Generally I apply my make-up with a pallette knife ala RuPaul- well I used to. These days I wear much less and it generally comes from the dollar tree. I'm no Van Gogh, but I do know how to stay within the lines. Come to think of it, dark red DOES match-the-snatch.
 

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I can't really take credit for that one, luv, but I heard it so long ago (about a girl whose hair was the freakiest shade of bottle-blonde) I can't remember who said it.
 

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ETA123 said:
It's the manner in which it is used that's in question here. No president until now has used the power to exclude himself from the provisions of the law. Until now, it's been used to clarify law, not modify it.


Clarify or modify is all in the way you want to read it.
 

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ETA123 said:
It's the manner in which it is used that's in question here. No president until now has used the power to exclude himself from the provisions of the law. Until now, it's been used to clarify law, not modify it.
Reagan/Bush/Ollie North violated Federal Law written specifically to prevent them from doing what they did. They just 'didn't recall' anything about what they did of the law or whatever. Hardly new news.:mad:
 

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Reportedly, he has an IQ of 91. Hardly of Mensa caliber, if true.

Reported by whom? You doubtless recall Sailor's analysis of test scores and military aptitude scores of Bush vs. Kerry during the last election.

This notion is most unfortunate, and perhaps one reason why Bush manages to outmaneuver his opponents every fucking time while they do nothing more productive than pat themselves on the back about how much smarter they are than dumb ol' George. This is part of his strength - he doesn't care if anyone thinks he's smart or not, just so long as they just stand around and grouse while he ties them up in knots. Doesn't sound all that dumb to me.

This has happened maybe three times before in American history - a President who consistently outmaneuvers everybody. (Any of you Mensa types able to name those three?) We can thank our lucky stars that he isn't smarter than he is, because there's nobody in Washington (or on this board, for that matter) who's sharp enough to even slow him down.
 

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This notion is most unfortunate, and perhaps one reason why Bush manages to outmaneuver his opponents every fucking time while they do nothing more productive than pat themselves on the back about how much smarter they are than dumb ol' George. This is part of his strength - he doesn't care if anyone thinks he's smart or not, just so long as they just stand around and grouse while he ties them up in knots. Doesn't sound all that dumb to me.

You're confusing intelligence with smartness. Some of the 'dumbest' people I've known (IQ wise) were seriously smart where it really matters; real life.
 

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dong20 said:
You're confusing intelligence with smartness. Some of the 'dumbest' people I've known (IQ wise) were seriously smart where it really matters; real life.

Superb.

Without naming names I will, ere long, marry one of those to whom you refer (coz we can here in Massachusetts:tongue:). I've long-maintained that true intelligence has nothing at all to do with one's IQ much as it's fun to be clever and all that.

"Seat-of-the-pants" smarts ... oh yeah. I could use one great big fat heaping helping.:redface:

big dirigible said:
This has happened maybe three times before in American history - a President who consistently outmaneuvers everybody. (Any of you Mensa types able to name those three?) We can thank our lucky stars that he isn't smarter than he is, because there's nobody in Washington (or on this board, for that matter) who's sharp enough to even slow him down.

'Mensa types'?:33:

With Cheney and Wolfowitz (et al) pulling his marionette strings he doesn't need to be 'sharp'. In this alone the moron's bright. Nothing else.