Ok. So how many people here have said to a friend of the opposite sex that 'by the time we are 40 if we aren't married or have kids, we will do that with each other."? I have made several such joking deals with women, but either she or I were involved and so nothing came to pass. However, I was on the phone tonight with a friend i went to high school with and we have known each other since we were 15 and we have both been around the block so many times we are dizzy. I was telling her how i was seriously checking into egg and surrogate donors and also would consider adoption because the desire to be a father is so strong. She was telling me that she was also looking to have a child and be willing to do it on her own. So we agreed to talk at length in a few days about the prospect of having a child together since its what we both want and we have similar expectations of how we would want a child to be reared and educated, etc. I am kind of hoping this works out. We don't want to be in a relationship with the other one. But we both want a child of a specific genetic make up and want the child to be raised in the manner we both were, but better. Has anyone ever actually been in this position? has anyone done this? I am ready to be a dad and she is ready to be a mom and we have been close friends, our families have been friends for almost 25 years. We see no reason that we should undertake the same task on our own when we might be able to work it out together. What say you?