Its not gay if the other dude doesn’t look gay

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In other words: It’s not gay if the guy you’re having sex with doesn’t seem gay at all. traditionally masculine — they have wives and families, they embrace various masculine norms, and so on. Have you ever desired this kind of relationship? Have you ever gone this far with another guy friend who isn’t gay?
 

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Sound like many closeted Gay men.... but everyone is allowed the option to view their own perception on sex. If you think sucking or fucking between two men is not GAY...so be it....:)
 

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In other words it's just having man sex? Humm. Two consenting men getting off with each other...

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Let's play Jeopardy:

I'll take "In other words" for $2000. Oh, it the Daily Double. Let's make it a true Daily Double Alex. I'll risk it all...

The answer is "In other words, it's just having man sex".

"What is gay?"

or

Let's play Password:

Alan Ludden. "The password is "Gay".
 

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Cue game song music.

Let's play Jeopardy:

I'll take "In other words" for $2000. Oh, it the Daily Double. Let's make it a true Daily Double Alex. I'll risk it all...

The answer is "In other words, it's just having man sex".

"What is gay?"

or

Let's play Password:

Alan Ludden. "The password is "Gay".
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Gay is a Label! Get over the labels and live your life!
 
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Question to those of you that don't like labels. How do you go about finding guys or even dating someone without them knowing your into the same sex? I mean for example. Let's say you see or meet a guy. Do you just hit on them without any advance notice that your attracted to them, or that you wish to get to know them better. How do you approach them? Sounds like this could be result in a negative way.
 
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I don't lambast anyone who describes me as gay, I just chose not to use the term in relation to myself.

Homosexuality is the act.
Gay is the identity.
Homosexual is the universal truth
Gay is the cultural manifestation of that truth.
 

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As I get older and understand my sexuality and identity more, I have made a distinction between "gay" and "homosexual".

For me, the latter is a universal truth, meaning people who have sex with members of their own sex. This practice occurs all over the world and even in non human species.

Gay is, and is increasingly so, a matter of identity. How you fit into your culture. With the "gay" label comes a whole host of cultural associations and expectations, both from within the gay "community" and from those outside the group. More than simply camp stereotypes; there's an expectation on ones political outlook, humour, friendship circle, likes/dislikes, etc.

What we understand as gay or LGBT is culturally specific to the developed western world. Yet homosexuality has been and is still practiced in many ways globally where LGBT culture is not a part of the wider culture.

I've never felt any want to belong to a community simply based on my attracted to the same sex.

(Incidentally, I resist all culturally belonging because of an unstable and international childhood with numerous, diverse, mixed cultural influences).

My impossible dream is to have a partner who also doesn't recognise himself as "gay", rather a man who enjoys the company of, and physical intimacy of men.

People who don't understand this may lazily call me an internalized homophobe, or a closet case, but that could not be further from the truth. I came out at 15 and have been in a same sex relationship for 14yrs.

When I fantasize about men, I always fantasize about men who enjoy men, not gays.
Bravo! Well said!
 
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