It's time to ban seancody.com

Discussion in 'Gay Adult Websites' started by ThaiDude, Jan 1, 2012.

?

Look at the question in my text ...

Poll closed Jan 15, 2012.
  1. YES

    26 vote(s)
    17.8%
  2. NO

    120 vote(s)
    82.2%
  1. ThaiDude

    ThaiDude New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    GeRmAnY
    Hi guys .... happy new year!

    I had a corbinfisher membership .... but I cancelled after they started publishing bareback movies .... one, two, three ... and then i realized that this is their new content.

    I am shocked that my all-time-favourite seancody is doing the same.
    They published their first bareback movie in december ... today they published the next ... and i am pretty sure that they will continue producing like this.

    Please have a look at the poll and give a vote!

    ---- edit .... question is too long for the poll title ...
    IMAGINE YOU WOULD HAVE A PAYSITE MEMBERSHIP FOR MANY MONTHS. YOU REALLY LOVE THE CONTENT. SUDDENLY THEY START PRODUCING BAREBACK .... ONE VIDEO, TWO, THREE ... WOULD YOU LOSE INTEREST IN THAT SITE?

    Please note: we are not talking about a bareback site.
    We are talking about a website that produced "safe" content for many years. And suddenly they start producing bareback ...
     
    #1 ThaiDude, Jan 1, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2012
  2. myass111aa

    myass111aa Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2010
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    I don't see why this matters?
     
  3. kmere44549

    kmere44549 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2011
    Messages:
    393
    Albums:
    3
    Likes Received:
    3
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    usa-nc
    me either just cancel ur membership why ban it that stupid in 2 me
     
  4. aninnymouse

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    3,063
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    In My Own World
    It's a bit strange to me, 'cause I always thought that Sean Cody was extremely adamant about NOT doing bareback stuff. What changed? I'd heard he sold the company, or made a deal where he's not as involved in the making of the videos anymore, but I still can't see why he'd do the sudden 180.
     
  5. novice_btm

    Staff Member Moderator Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2006
    Messages:
    18,199
    Albums:
    4
    Likes Received:
    861
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Los Angeles (CA, US)
    I'm with Thai. When you go to a particular place, for a particular thing, and they change it up, it matters.

    If you've always gone to your favourite steakhouse for years, they still call it a steakhouse, the owners haven't changed, they gradually add a couple veggie items, but now the menu is suddenly vegan...
     
  6. ThaiDude

    ThaiDude New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    GeRmAnY
    probably all those guys who voted NO are those who practice or love (or both) bareback sex. they just see the movie itself ... they just see a dick in an ass and that's it. and as they don't care whether there's a condom on the dick or not, they don't understand what I am talking about.
    If somebody loves bareback, he cannot what I am talking about here. Because for him the website would even become more interesting than before ....

    novice ... you gave a great example! thanks.
    that means all the NO-voters would still go to their favourite thai restaurant. even when they suddenly stop cooking thai food and start selling sushi ... because they still have the same name. and they still serve food.

    --- btw ... when I am talking about "ban" i mean banning from the personal favourites! not from the internet.
     
    #6 ThaiDude, Jan 1, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2012
  7. rbkwp

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2007
    Messages:
    29,347
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    1,955
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Auckland (AUK, NZ)
    Connisseur of Porn, when i wanna be, and with the often limited time i am on the internet,
    That being said, i have noticed that MANY sites are now taking liberties
    ie
    doing exactly as you have mentioned, throwing in the occasional / often now, bareback vids, knowing there is a large paying populace out there who prefer such.
    They obviously feel the Hiv/Aids crisis is over .. fools them
    Dont get my Patronage in the slightest...

    Whats Bel Ami up to these days??? only thing i liked re them was the clarity of vids
    Always preferred W Higgins over them.

    as for the banning, yr not lpsg and it wont ever happen, so nice thought but suggest you forget it.
     
  8. ThaiDude

    ThaiDude New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    GeRmAnY
    once again: when I am talking about "ban" i mean banning from the personal favourites! not from the internet.
     
  9. rbkwp

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2007
    Messages:
    29,347
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    1,955
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Auckland (AUK, NZ)
    Yeah sorry man, i had that link sitting for a while & posted it AFTER you had posted yr last, so never saw what you had to say.
    No Problems,

    YES' defintly agree..
    --- btw ... when I am talking about "ban" i mean banning from the personal favourites! not from the internet.
     
  10. Deno

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2006
    Messages:
    4,771
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    27
    I'm torn here. I think safe sex is needed but love classic and vintage porn. I sometimes feel that gays are expected to use condoms more then it's expected in straight porn. And since you can be exposed to hiv during oral sex why is it ok to do that unprotected. I just don't see myself getting worked up about it. We would hope there is some kind of thought put into this practice.
     
  11. myass111aa

    myass111aa Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2010
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    It's so close to impossible to get HIV from oral sex that most clinics won't give you prophylactic (preventative) treatment for HIV.

    I'm impartial to condom vs. bareback. They're required to spend money on the more expensive STD testing for their actors as per regulation. So technically, it IS safe sex. If you don't like that there's no condom, then don't watch it. Cancel your membership. But don't ruin the fun for the rest of us. Let supply/demand economics run the website.
     
  12. NoH8

    NoH8 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    604
    Albums:
    2
    Likes Received:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Adelaide (SA, AU)
    I would have thought that Sean Cody's niche was young, inexperienced, gay/bi/curious college boys who aren't professional porn actors. I feel most uncomfortable about enabling them to be paid to have unsafe sex. I know they would claim to be tested. I also feel Sean Cody's mass audience should have the safer sex message reinforced, not weakened.

    I never joined the site but have seen a lot of their previews. Only a few of the "military" type models appeal to me. I would probably cancel my membership had I been keen enough to join. If you feel this way, it is important that you WRITE the webmaster and tell them the REASON for your cancellation. The customer is always right.

    I make a distinction, personally, between a site like Sean Cody or Belle Ami and a hardcore fetish site like Treasure Island Media where the older, experienced porn stars are either all HIV+ or have made their own decisions about testing and use of condoms, breeding and seeding etc. Their audience obviously has also done the same thing. I can see the erotic appeal of bareback but it still makes me uncomfortable to watch a guy like "Christian" at TIM get loaded up with 10 or 20 loads of cum in a session. If he weren't already HIV+, just mathematically it would only take a weekend of sessions like this to change his test status. I'm hoping that all concerned in these productions share the same HIV status - but somehow I don't think it's possible to be sure.

    Sorry to get off topic, my vote is don't ban it, quit & write to the webmaster.
     
  13. travis1985

    Verified Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2011
    Messages:
    868
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    32
    Gender:
    Male
    Verified:
    Photo
    If you don't like it, don't buy it?
     
  14. ThaiDude

    ThaiDude New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    GeRmAnY
    in their latest update they show a model which appeared in many other movies. all other movies were safe. and suddenly this guys appears in a movie where he gets double-penetrated .... it's a threesome where all guys fuck each other ... they put their dick in one ass, then in the other ass ... and as i said, also double penetrate ... that means 100 % real bareback.

    you know, i am a members for many many months. i loved seancody. in many of my postings i wrote that seancody is my all time favourite.

    and suddenly they start producing bareback. i simply don't understand it.
    it's a different way of .... hmmm ... how to say ... i guess bareback is no fetish. it's a different way of sex ... that's why i am sure they will lose many customers. although the votes here say that 80 % wouldn't cancel their membership.

    as somebody mentioned here already, people usually buy a membership because they love the content because dudes are young, black ... because content shows bareback sex, group sex, whatever .... btw, i also cannot remember that seancody ever published double-penetration in the past ... it must be a new owner or stuff like that. that's the only reason why content can change that drastically.


    ---- and travis .... your way of argumentation sounds like you're 14 years old!
     
  15. D_Harry_Crax

    D_Harry_Crax Account Disabled

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    Messages:
    4,642
    Likes Received:
    34
    How about dropping one's subscription to SeanCody because the performers are 99% white???
     
  16. ArkNebradia

    Verified Gold Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Messages:
    127
    Albums:
    5
    Likes Received:
    123
    Gender:
    Male
    Verified:
    Photo
    On the topic of safe sex... You realize many sites have been doing fairly regular testing of their models lately, to make sure theyre all HIV negative, etc. If both participants are HIV negative, then no one will get HIV. I really don't understand what the problem is.
     
  17. ThaiDude

    ThaiDude New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    GeRmAnY
    ark, do you really think i care about the health of any porn actor?
    they can fuck around, they can get HIV, whatever .... i don't care.

    you don't understand what I am talking about .... although I explained many times.
    but i guess you are not the only one.
     
  18. Rikter8

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2005
    Messages:
    4,488
    Albums:
    3
    Likes Received:
    51
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    MI
    Thai, not to bust your chops, but the poll wasn't clear from the beginning. I voted no because that was the first thing I read, like others.
    We don't understand what your talking about because you left out important bits of information.
    Lesson for next time, give more details.

    It's billed on a monthly basis, correct? So cancel your membership. You don't have to pay for something you don't enjoy.

    I enjoy bareback videos only because I know I cannot do them in real life, and it's hot to fantasize about it.
    Most good porn studios will pay the money to have their members tested, so more reason to buy the good stuff.
    There's generally a disclaimer at the beginning of every retail video that you buy which either has the performers explaining about safe sex or a screen with it printed clearly for viewers to read.

    Pirated videos that you find online skip this because everybody wants to get off quick.

    Straight sex and porn are probably the WORST for bareback yet no one complains about them, so why here?
     
    #18 Rikter8, Jan 2, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2012
  19. lvsxy808

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    2,549
    Albums:
    2
    Likes Received:
    326
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Surbiton (GB)
    I just this minute sent the following email to Sean Cody:

    ===

    To the producers/owners of Sean Cody

    I’m writing to say that I’m enormously disappointed in you for your recent decision to start filming unsafe sex scenes.

    I have been for 10 years a professional porn reviewer, writing as a paid critic since the days of VHS. It is only in the past couple of years that I have decided I simply can’t do it anymore – mostly because of the increasing popularity of bareback porn in the marketplace. I find the complete irresponsibility of it depressing to the point where I cannot bear to be a part of the industry any longer.

    I have also followed your site since its launch. You were one of the first studios to launch the straight-to-web format, along with Corbin Fisher, Randy Blue and Chaos Men. I went off CM almost immediately over their decision to promote unsafe sex. CF followed eventually over their likewise decision. That left you and RB as the only ones I was still prepared to give my own money to, even after I no longer received free memberships and screening copies as a critic. I stuck with you through the accusations of homophobia, of favouring your straight models over your gay ones, and through your rather childish and bitchy response of revealing the real name of the model in question. I stuck with you because you had not succumbed to the money-over-morals bareback trend.

    But now you have. And why? Do you think you have to, to remain relevant? Consider this – your selling point could have been that you are the studio that cares more about its models AND its viewers than that. “We are the ones who will not give in to the almighty dollar, the ones for whom setting a good example for our fans is more important.” That could have been your niche. Now what are you? One of the whole crowd of studios who don’t care. Wallowing in the mud with the rest. In an attempt to keep up with the times, you’ve given up what made you special and respectable.

    Yes, you’ve got a lot of blog chatter out of it. And all press is good press, right? You may get a few more memberships out of this too, but really, they’ll be from people whose money I wouldn’t want to have, and it will come at the expense of your high ground.

    And that’s not even considering the fact that you have now given up the chance you had to educate your audience. You may think it’s not your responsibility to educate, only to entertain. That porn is only a fantasy, not anything that people might try to emulate in real life. I think that’s a fantastically naïve perspective. Of course entertainment educates at the same time. “People see murders all the time on TV – it doesn’t mean they’ll go out and murder people,” you’ll say. Well, they have the whole of society telling them not to murder anyone. No-one is telling young gay men how to have sex. The educational system doesn’t even like to admit gay people exist, so they’re certainly not teaching them what they need to know about safe sex. In that absence, porn producers take on an educational responsibility by default. Up to now, you were doing it well. Now you have apparently decided it’s not necessary.

    Even if you think it’s NOT your responsibility, that you don’t HAVE to do this, don’t you at least feel that you OUGHT to do this? Why not take the chance you have to teach your viewers good habits, ensure they keep themselves safe to enjoy more sex in the future? Do you not think that’s a good thing to be doing, something you should want to do?

    Yes, you placed the “disclaimer” at the front of the clips, written by a highly paid lawyer to make sure you’re legally covered I’m sure. Three points on that. 1 – you wouldn’t have to do that if you just kept using condoms. 2 – if you really think anyone is going to stop to read a safe sex disclaimer and consider what it says before going on to the sex, then I can only assume you’ve never been a teenage boy with a hardon. 3 – the disclaimer itself is hypocritical in the extreme. You claim that you do not support or recommend unprotected sex, yet that’s exactly what you’re doing by producing this scene in the first place, upon which the disclaimer is placed. You even say “it was the hottest thing we’d ever seen,” glorifying it above all your other productions right there while having the gall to say you don’t “support” it.

    And you claim you do not recommend unsafe sex “even within a relationship,” and yet in the two scenes in question (so far), you also then go on to clearly say that the models have only just met each other. Within a relationship is bad, but complete strangers is good? Yes yes, they all had tests. So you say. What proof do I have of that? Your word? Do you not realize how many HIV infections in the world came as a result of people trusting another person’s word? I can’t see those tests or those negative results. You know what I can see? A condom.

    Test all you want, it’s great that you do. But why not use condoms as well? It is really so difficult or unpleasant or troublesome? Is it really better for you to spend all the money of tests and lawyers and arguments on the internet than it is for you to just slap a condom on your models and provide a good example for your audience as well? I disagree in the strongest possible terms. Because the fact is, you had the opportunity to be part of the solution to the continuing rise of HIV infections. Instead you’ve chosen of your own free will to become party of the problem. When the next innocent gay boy tests positive, you could have rested safe in the knowledge you did nothing to contribute to it. You can’t do that anymore. I can't prove that watching a bareback porn clip will force him to go out and have unsafe sex, but you can’t prove that it won’t. Why not err on the side of caution?

    I hope you can see that this email, assuming you have read it through, is attempting to provide rational arguments to persuade you that you have made the wrong decision. I am not some crazed internet ranter just spouting off without having thought about it. I feel very strongly about this, and I hope I’ve given you some food for thought.

    Regards

    Ed Woody
     
  20. ThaiDude

    ThaiDude New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    GeRmAnY
    lvsxy808 ... good job! i did the same. and i am sure we're not the only ones.
    may i ask you to tell us what they replied? just curious about it ...
     
Draft saved Draft deleted