ivan_cold0, scammed me

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I hesitate to over-generalize about a situation that's perhaps only a little bit out of the ordinary for these parts. After years of only lurking, I recently found myself wanting to interact with webcam models, so I have requested a few DMs which has led to some out-of-band payments. In one instance, I found myself exchanging phone numbers with this model, Ivan. I think he's pretty sexy, and he was very accommodating to me. Colombians are pretty well trained in cordiality, and he laid it on strong.
At first I paid him for a video, and it was pretty short, which disappointed me, but he did give me exactly what I asked for. He noted it was short though, and offered to make me another video.

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But things already started to get a bit strange. While he offered to make me a second video because the first was short, he already asked me for more money as a favor. To me our relationship is transactional, I sent him money in exchange for a video, and he changed the terms to increase my satisfaction, but then attempted to renegotiate because he wanted more money. I told him pretty clearly that we could only discuss money after he already sent me what he promised me. Of course then he tells me that anything after that would require payment. Of course! I wasn't asking for anything for free.

When he hits me up the next day trying to get more money, I ask him if he's straight or what, and he tells me he's bi. I ask if he'd do a video with another guy, and if he knows anyone. Of course for a second person he wanted more money, and that's fine, but I was pretty clear with what I wanted. I wanted his friend to suck him off, while they're both naked. And I wanted to see him ejaculate over his friend. He made this all seem like no big deal, and given the ease of the first videos I took him at his word. The day after they were supposed to film, I have to ask him about it (I already paid) and he said that his friend had to cancel. He should have told me the day before, since I had already paid him, but I'm a patient fellow. The next day he asks me for more money, this time he says it's to pay for a university exam. I tell him that if he's willing to fuck his friend on camera I'll cover the test, and he agrees. He says he will film at the weekend, and it's Monday at this point. So when he asks me for more money the next day, though I'm suspicious, his timing is perfect, and he agrees to do a live video call with me, and record a video later for me, for this payment. I ask that in this video he lets the cum sit there for a little bit after he comes, but again it's a very short video. It start to wonder why, and suspect that he's going on cam to get tokens, before making the video for me. That's fine, I didn't request a long video.


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After that though I'm not particularly interested in sending him any more money because I really want to see if he'll make me this fuck video. The next week he tells me that he filmed the video, but he's having some problem converting the file to a video format he can send me. (How convenient!) He tells me that he wants to offer me something for free to make up for it while he tries to figure out the problem. He said he would either do a live call with me, or make a video. I prefer a live call, it turns me on more, but the timing didn't work out so he send me this video instead.


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I asked that he show me his ass in the video. I throw in these little requests, but it's hard to know if he actually made the video for me or if he's just got an archive of jerk off videos and finds one that has what I want. He thinks he placated me with the free video, and later in the week tells me it's his mom's birthday and he wants to get her something, would I send him $25? I tell him to record a video of his computer screen, showing me the fuck video, so I know that it's real. If he does that I'll consider it, so he sends me the following two videos.

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In the video you can hear him say how hot it is to see himself fuck. However, I immediately notice a few things. This is a vertical video, despite all his previous videos being horizontal. It's not the same body, there's more of a belly, and there are no hand tattoos. Also, that isn't the guy he's supposed to be fucking. Disappointing to say the least. I had never done this before, and if he treated me right he could have gotten a lot of money out of me over time, but instead he chose to lie to me for money.

I didn't say anything about the lies, I just told him that I understood he was having trouble converting the video and that if he would just make me a 10 minute jerk off video, showing his ass, and putting a finger in his ass, I wouldn't ask for the fuck video any more.
When he sent the video I noticed he was on chaturbate just an hour before, again, leading me to believe that he's milking tokens and then making my video, which I don't care about. That's fine. But after this, he's not getting any more money from me because I don't trust him.


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He is trying to reconcile the situation with me. I told him that as far as I'm concerned we're even now, but I would not want to purchase any more videos. If he puts in the effort to make the video that I asked for, I will reconsider things, but I will probably want him to send me the video before I pay in full. I think he's hot, so if he's willing to make me happy then I am willing to help subsidize his studies ^_^
 
I think the issue is you don't have to believe in a stranger's word, regardless of how hot he is. Actually, most people selling their body for money, all they want is actually the money per se. They'd do anything to trap you in, they'd lie on things you'd never even think of, like his "mom's bday", the video format... Just anything literally.
To them, you're just their bank.
Careful.
 
not all but it is a trend among them yes
I think the issue is you don't have to believe in a stranger's word, regardless of how hot he is. Actually, most people selling their body for money, all they want is actually the money per se. They'd do anything to trap you in, they'd lie on things you'd never even think of, like his "mom's bday", the video format... Just anything literally.
To them, you're just their bank.
Careful.
 
I think the issue is you don't have to believe in a stranger's word, regardless of how hot he is. Actually, most people selling their body for money, all they want is actually the money per se. They'd do anything to trap you in, they'd lie on things you'd never even think of, like his "mom's bday", the video format... Just anything literally.
To them, you're just their bank.
Careful.
The lies don't really worry me, I have been on the internet a long time. What concerned me is only his inability to fulfill his side of the bargain. He sent me a message last night showing of a sex toy he bought. He certainly won't get a penny out of me unless he makes the video I actually asked for. I don't think he will, since he can't even keep track of his own lies. How can he buy a sex toy when he's begging for money to buy his mom a gift? Easily, because he's greedy. Well I am too :)
 
not all but it is a trend among them yes
I had a much cleaner interaction with another model recently, he didn't promise me anything, simply told me what was already available. I was mentally trapped by that point so I purchased a couple of expensive videos. I got exactly what I expected, even if I wouldn't do it again. I gained valuable experience. Pornography is such a mental trap. I've got terabytes of it and still want more.
 
The lies don't really worry me, I have been on the internet a long time. What concerned me is only his inability to fulfill his side of the bargain. He sent me a message last night showing of a sex toy he bought. He certainly won't get a penny out of me unless he makes the video I actually asked for. I don't think he will, since he can't even keep track of his own lies. How can he buy a sex toy when he's begging for money to buy his mom a gift? Easily, because he's greedy. Well I am too :)
Good to hear, I hope you can get the video you paid for some day :)
 
I confronted him a few times about him lying about being bisexual. He said that he actually liked men more than women. I didn't believe it then and I believe it less now that I've seen the following. He finally blocked me on whatsapp. I remain confused and saddened by the extent of his lying to me. I suspect he might have some kind of drug problem. That's the kind of behavior I expect from addicts.

Anyway, if you can forget all the negativity, and if you happen to find him attractive, here's a video of him fucking a girl. I could have sworn I saw another one somewhere but I can't find it anymore

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I have dealt with him as well. He generally did what I asked but never was 100% what I wanted. Only took me the 3rd time of not doing it correctly that I started to ignore him. But the same thing he kept asking for little amounts of money every little bit (I never gave when he asked) until finally it was multiple times a day and I had to block him.
 
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I’ve noticed this trend on a lot of similar threads of people getting scammed by cam model, but people really need to stop forming these parasocial relationships with these cam models.(I don’t think you’re one of those people judging from your post.) Just because you tip them a lot or get their number does not mean that you are special to them (except for your wallet) it’s literally why they’re cam models, they’re in it for the money!!

Now don’t get me wrong not all cam models are like this and actually good people, care about their followers, wanna make friends or looking for a relationship but that’s like literally finding a needle in a haystack.

I’ve noticed a lot of the scamming seems to come from the cam models that are from Colombia. I’m not saying all of them are like this, but it makes sense why some would with the economic state of Colombia right now.

There’s been times where I’ve tipped a model a lot for for great show & then they’ll just start spamming my dms daily asking to do shows with them everyday and being upset when I tell them I can’t. There’s also been times where I’m just only having a conversation with them & they ask for my number to chat again and I give it to them just because the conversation was great, but then as soon as we start texting they’re immediately asking me to send them money through their paypal & it’s usually always for “their birthday, a family members birthday, university stuff, rent, medical bills, food or offering to do custom vids for some crazy price. I had to ghost so many of them because they would not stop asking for money or get mad/sad at me because I said I’ll pay through a show on the cam site only (I’ve never sent money outside to a model because I don’t wanna risk the chance of being scammed)

At the end of the day it’s your money to spend it how you want & I just hope people think with their heads not their dicks or hearts to realize the risk of being scammed by sending money outside to cam models because 99 percent of the time these cam models only care about your wallets & will say anything you like to achieve that.
 
I have dealt with him as well. He generally did what I asked but never was 100% what I wanted. Only took me the 3rd time of not doing it correctly that I started to ignore him. But the same thing he kept asking for little amounts of money every little bit (I never gave when he asked) until finally it was multiple times a day and I had to block him.
It's unfortunate that we can't have more honest interactions with these people, but webcam models are like anyone else, and the potential to scam someone is so attractive. I seem to be dealing with this again with another model. I haven't learned my lesson yet!
 
I’ve noticed this trend... 99 percent of the time these cam models only care about your wallets & will say anything you like to achieve that.

Thanks for your input. I think this is important context for people. I am willing to take the risk of the scam because my interest in a custom video in the first place usually comes from my having already enjoyed them for free. What disappoints me is that if they weren't such dishonest ass holes they could actually establish a stable income!
I noticed that once I send the money the model will stop camming for a few days as they spend it, and then they will get on cam again, but after a day of not making what I sent him for one short video, he will finally get back to me with the video because he wants MORE money for another unfulfilled video.

It's happening to me right now with James_qss8 right now. He owes me a ten minute workout and jerk off video. Barely cammed all week but he's on today...lol, the cycle renews
 
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