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I hesitate to over-generalize about a situation that's perhaps only a little bit out of the ordinary for these parts. After years of only lurking, I recently found myself wanting to interact with webcam models, so I have requested a few DMs which has led to some out-of-band payments. In one instance, I found myself exchanging phone numbers with this model, Ivan. I think he's pretty sexy, and he was very accommodating to me. Colombians are pretty well trained in cordiality, and he laid it on strong.
At first I paid him for a video, and it was pretty short, which disappointed me, but he did give me exactly what I asked for. He noted it was short though, and offered to make me another video.
![VID-20250602-WA0004.mp4]( "VID-20250602-WA0004.mp4")
![VID-20250604-WA0000.mp4]( "VID-20250604-WA0000.mp4")
But things already started to get a bit strange. While he offered to make me a second video because the first was short, he already asked me for more money as a favor. To me our relationship is transactional, I sent him money in exchange for a video, and he changed the terms to increase my satisfaction, but then attempted to renegotiate because he wanted more money. I told him pretty clearly that we could only discuss money after he already sent me what he promised me. Of course then he tells me that anything after that would require payment. Of course! I wasn't asking for anything for free.
When he hits me up the next day trying to get more money, I ask him if he's straight or what, and he tells me he's bi. I ask if he'd do a video with another guy, and if he knows anyone. Of course for a second person he wanted more money, and that's fine, but I was pretty clear with what I wanted. I wanted his friend to suck him off, while they're both naked. And I wanted to see him ejaculate over his friend. He made this all seem like no big deal, and given the ease of the first videos I took him at his word. The day after they were supposed to film, I have to ask him about it (I already paid) and he said that his friend had to cancel. He should have told me the day before, since I had already paid him, but I'm a patient fellow. The next day he asks me for more money, this time he says it's to pay for a university exam. I tell him that if he's willing to fuck his friend on camera I'll cover the test, and he agrees. He says he will film at the weekend, and it's Monday at this point. So when he asks me for more money the next day, though I'm suspicious, his timing is perfect, and he agrees to do a live video call with me, and record a video later for me, for this payment. I ask that in this video he lets the cum sit there for a little bit after he comes, but again it's a very short video. It start to wonder why, and suspect that he's going on cam to get tokens, before making the video for me. That's fine, I didn't request a long video.
![VID-20250615-WA0005.mp4]( "VID-20250615-WA0005.mp4")
After that though I'm not particularly interested in sending him any more money because I really want to see if he'll make me this fuck video. The next week he tells me that he filmed the video, but he's having some problem converting the file to a video format he can send me. (How convenient!) He tells me that he wants to offer me something for free to make up for it while he tries to figure out the problem. He said he would either do a live call with me, or make a video. I prefer a live call, it turns me on more, but the timing didn't work out so he send me this video instead.
![VID-20250620-WA0018.mp4]( "VID-20250620-WA0018.mp4")
I asked that he show me his ass in the video. I throw in these little requests, but it's hard to know if he actually made the video for me or if he's just got an archive of jerk off videos and finds one that has what I want. He thinks he placated me with the free video, and later in the week tells me it's his mom's birthday and he wants to get her something, would I send him $25? I tell him to record a video of his computer screen, showing me the fuck video, so I know that it's real. If he does that I'll consider it, so he sends me the following two videos.
![VID-20250622-WA0001.mp4]( "VID-20250622-WA0001.mp4")
![VID-20250622-WA0002.mp4]( "VID-20250622-WA0002.mp4")
In the video you can hear him say how hot it is to see himself fuck. However, I immediately notice a few things. This is a vertical video, despite all his previous videos being horizontal. It's not the same body, there's more of a belly, and there are no hand tattoos. Also, that isn't the guy he's supposed to be fucking. Disappointing to say the least. I had never done this before, and if he treated me right he could have gotten a lot of money out of me over time, but instead he chose to lie to me for money.
I didn't say anything about the lies, I just told him that I understood he was having trouble converting the video and that if he would just make me a 10 minute jerk off video, showing his ass, and putting a finger in his ass, I wouldn't ask for the fuck video any more.
When he sent the video I noticed he was on chaturbate just an hour before, again, leading me to believe that he's milking tokens and then making my video, which I don't care about. That's fine. But after this, he's not getting any more money from me because I don't trust him.
![VID-20250622-WA0006.mp4]( "VID-20250622-WA0006.mp4")
At first I paid him for a video, and it was pretty short, which disappointed me, but he did give me exactly what I asked for. He noted it was short though, and offered to make me another video.
But things already started to get a bit strange. While he offered to make me a second video because the first was short, he already asked me for more money as a favor. To me our relationship is transactional, I sent him money in exchange for a video, and he changed the terms to increase my satisfaction, but then attempted to renegotiate because he wanted more money. I told him pretty clearly that we could only discuss money after he already sent me what he promised me. Of course then he tells me that anything after that would require payment. Of course! I wasn't asking for anything for free.
When he hits me up the next day trying to get more money, I ask him if he's straight or what, and he tells me he's bi. I ask if he'd do a video with another guy, and if he knows anyone. Of course for a second person he wanted more money, and that's fine, but I was pretty clear with what I wanted. I wanted his friend to suck him off, while they're both naked. And I wanted to see him ejaculate over his friend. He made this all seem like no big deal, and given the ease of the first videos I took him at his word. The day after they were supposed to film, I have to ask him about it (I already paid) and he said that his friend had to cancel. He should have told me the day before, since I had already paid him, but I'm a patient fellow. The next day he asks me for more money, this time he says it's to pay for a university exam. I tell him that if he's willing to fuck his friend on camera I'll cover the test, and he agrees. He says he will film at the weekend, and it's Monday at this point. So when he asks me for more money the next day, though I'm suspicious, his timing is perfect, and he agrees to do a live video call with me, and record a video later for me, for this payment. I ask that in this video he lets the cum sit there for a little bit after he comes, but again it's a very short video. It start to wonder why, and suspect that he's going on cam to get tokens, before making the video for me. That's fine, I didn't request a long video.
After that though I'm not particularly interested in sending him any more money because I really want to see if he'll make me this fuck video. The next week he tells me that he filmed the video, but he's having some problem converting the file to a video format he can send me. (How convenient!) He tells me that he wants to offer me something for free to make up for it while he tries to figure out the problem. He said he would either do a live call with me, or make a video. I prefer a live call, it turns me on more, but the timing didn't work out so he send me this video instead.
I asked that he show me his ass in the video. I throw in these little requests, but it's hard to know if he actually made the video for me or if he's just got an archive of jerk off videos and finds one that has what I want. He thinks he placated me with the free video, and later in the week tells me it's his mom's birthday and he wants to get her something, would I send him $25? I tell him to record a video of his computer screen, showing me the fuck video, so I know that it's real. If he does that I'll consider it, so he sends me the following two videos.
In the video you can hear him say how hot it is to see himself fuck. However, I immediately notice a few things. This is a vertical video, despite all his previous videos being horizontal. It's not the same body, there's more of a belly, and there are no hand tattoos. Also, that isn't the guy he's supposed to be fucking. Disappointing to say the least. I had never done this before, and if he treated me right he could have gotten a lot of money out of me over time, but instead he chose to lie to me for money.
I didn't say anything about the lies, I just told him that I understood he was having trouble converting the video and that if he would just make me a 10 minute jerk off video, showing his ass, and putting a finger in his ass, I wouldn't ask for the fuck video any more.
When he sent the video I noticed he was on chaturbate just an hour before, again, leading me to believe that he's milking tokens and then making my video, which I don't care about. That's fine. But after this, he's not getting any more money from me because I don't trust him.
