I've got to doubt that man ever landed on the Moon...

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  1. D_Crystallized Ginger

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    I wouldn't be too surprised if this thread was unpleasant to somebody,especially usa citizens, but I really want to put it off my chest...
    Some years ago I was staring at the Moon in a wonderful night and I thought that is very strange the Man don't go to it anymore... If Moon trips aren't possible today, how the hell did the Nasa manage to make the Man land on it more than 40 years ago??? Also although it was filmed and forecasted in every Country, Italy included, nothing assure us it all wasn't a big special effect... just my thought and I don't mind to offend anyone, I like USA culture and people and I m not saying the USA government was a lier but boys let's think a bit about what I said before... 40 years after the first man landed on the Moon the trips to the Moon aren't a reality...
     
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    i don't think you will offend anybody. we went to the moon for that good old american reason, to prove we could! and it was competition with the soviets and we love competition. tons of scientific and medical advances came out of it(like tang).

    like a lot of the conspiracy theories out there, do you really think our government is that well organized that we could keep it a secret that long??? really???

    besides, once we confirmed it was not made of cheese we decided it was not worth our effort any longer.
     
  3. Mr. Snakey

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    Many people think this. I think we did. However my question is why we never went back? I think we were told hey get the fuck off my lawn. Many of the astronauts saw things so shocking they are now basket cases.
     
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    Can you elaborate on that a little, Mr. Snakey?
     
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    Oh, dear.

    When you come to the States, we'll have a Tea Party for you.
     
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    Personally I'd like to know how the astronauts survived the radiation, I would guess that they would have been cooked like hotdogs in a microwave with the long exposure they would have gotten with a moon landing.
    Even in a video about Van Allen Radiation Belts they still don't dicuss how the feat was accomplished only that it was.
    And that anyone who explores past 350 miles is subject to a lethal dose of radiation.
    Just saying, I'm not a scientist but I would like to know how the astronauts cheated death.


    YouTube - ‪Van Allen Radiation Belt‬‏



    edited: There was a typo in my original posting, I cannot confirm that the video is from NASA, only that the video clearly outlines the dangers of space travel.
     
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    Just one of the many issues that we'll never get a straight answer about. I too have questioned whether we've actually been there or not. To many things just don't add up.
     
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    like what?? a pristine bullet?? oh wait, wrong conspiracy...
     
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    personally, i can go with the kennedy conspiracy far easier than our not doing this. guess i lived in houston too long and knew too many people directly involved in it all.
     
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    Yes, the Van Allen Belts pose a hazard to both men and machine in space. However, it isn't a uniform thing. There are areas of high radiation and areas of lower radiation. From what I can recall, the Apollo missions used a specific trajectory to avoid the densest parts of the belt. I remember their total radiation exposure was something like 15 REM.

    Designing things for heavy radiation exposure isn't too hard. Think of the space probes we send to Jupiter which has a massively powerful radiation belt that operate for years and years. Even back in the 60's, the could come up with materials to mitigate the dangers of flying through the Van Allen Belts.

    BTW, for those who don't believe we went:

    1) Where did the moon rocks we have to study come from?
    2) How did the man made objects (landers, rovers, laser reflectors) get to the moon?
     
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    You can collect moon rocks in the arctic circle or with a metal detector in the arizona desert, we're not talking about satelites or rockets, which can place a roving robot on any planet, we're talking about human beings.

    Check this video out, it blows what your saying apart, there's no way to escape the radiation.


    YouTube - ‪Lunarcy: NASA's Radiation Problem‬‏
     
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    Since you asked;

    1. Why did NASA recently announce that it would take scientists 15 years to design and build a craft to go back to the moon? Why should it take longer now with more technology? We did it in less than 10 years back in the '60's or did we?

    2. How could they have powered air conditioning in 200+ degrees for three days with only batteries?

    3. The space shuttle has killed approximately 14 people just orbiting about 250 miles above the earth how is it a half century ago we have gone six times to another planet and back with no lives lost?

    4. Why does the flag that was placed on the moon billow in the wind when there is no atmosphere or wind?

    5. Why did NASA in 2002 admit that they could not adequately protect the astronauts working in the International Space Station from radiation yet we did it back in '69?

    Shall I continue?
     
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    I've an intuition you've heard answers to all these questions and found those answers unsatisfactory
     
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    I know the OP of this thread must be on the moon in one fashion or the other.....
     
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    Wasn't there something about shadows being cast in different directions in the moon landing footage/photos too? :confused:
     
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    There is a lot of inaccurate and badly reasoned stuff out there. Here is a reply by astronomer Phil Plait (source) to that particular item, as it was presented in a television program broadcast by Fox :)rolleyes:) in 2001 called "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?":

    And here is Plait's reply to the business about the flag supposedly waving in the breeze on the moon:
    But trying to argue people out of the belief that the moon landing was a hoax is as futile as trying to argue people out of the belief that President Obama was born in Kenya, that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job, and other such conspiracy theories. The only real cure is a bit of sanity.
     
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    Okay, but it's not as good as the Itchy and Scratchy cartoon in which Itchy uses a rocket to tie Scratchy's tongue around the moon; then Scratchy's tongue reels in the moon until it crushes him.
     
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