Jacko's at it Again!

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gigantikok: Well folks, MJ's done it again. Apparently, police are posied and ready to arrest Michael Jackson on child-molestation charges, with a bail set at $3 Mil (chump change for Michael).

You can check out the article here:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/995113.asp

It seems like this man sets himself up to get bad press! Just when one negative story about him is blowing over, another one springs up right in its place! It makes me sad, especially since I am such a huge fan of his work.

 

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Tender: well you didnt think he would stop did you?
he STILL isnt done with his nose either, id guess...

no i dont know if anything will happen, he will swindle his way out of it. but i want to know what parent in their right mind would give him any opportunity? maybe they needed some money :-/
Tender

 

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HUMONGOUS: michael jackson is pathetic. i do not beleive he ever stopped having sex with minors. he was bold enough to admit to sleeping with them. i am surprised child welfare has not taken his children away. that is usually what happens to pedophiles. i guess money talks.

 

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tracksuitboy: Depends what you call 'sex' H.  I think that over the years, what has become apparant is that Jacko is not "normal".  If you mean sex in the form of sucking or fucking with these boys then, frankly, I very much doubt it.  What came over in the Bashir documentary is that Jacko is a 12 year old, emotionally.  What I think is a possibility is that he - like other 12 year olds - like "sleep overs" (and one 14 year old admitted sleeping in the same bed as Jacko) and that may or may not involve "innocent" pre-adolescent sex-play.

However, whether I am right or wrong is immaterial as he is a 45 year old man and the idea of him just sleeping in the same bed is totally wrong.  Just sleeping in the same room could easily be misconstrued.

Wacko just lays himself open to potential "sticky situations", innuendo and outright blackmail.  Somehow I was never quite convinced by the accusations 10 years ago and I suspected the kid's family of making a fast-buck; and Tender could be right here when she says maybe they needed the money (presumably in reference to the family behind the new accusations).

And H you are right, I too am amazed that social services have not taken his kids away. I couldn't believe the pictures we saw when Wacko took his children to the zoo in Berlin (in the Bashir documentary).  If he really wanted his kids to visit the zoo peacefully he could have sent them with their nanny but because he went with them it became a circus and at several points during "the scrum",  I feared for the kids' safety.  And keeping his kids' faces covered all the time?  Boy, those kids are going to be screwed-up (hey, we're just like Dad!).

 

 

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gigantikok: Well, in all fairness I would take anything in the Bashir documentary with a grain of salt. The purpose of the documentary was to paint a bad picture of MJ for a quick buck and high ratings, and it obviously worked.

 

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tracksuitboy: I agree with you to some degree Gigz; Bashir does not rate among my favourite reporters and I do think there was an element of tabloidism in his documentary. However, the pictures at Berlin Zoo were clear and the 14 year old did say he'd slept in MJ's bed. Overall I think MJ came out of the documentary faily well (mind you MJ's taste is rather suspect judging by the expensive objet d'art he was buying in Vegas!).

As for the overall opinion of MJ, it is not based solely on Bashir; as with you and everyone else, it is based on everything we see and hear about the man (or should that be boy?).

 

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The guy's got no credibility anymore, you know. Shit, fellas, has anyone forgotten about him and the baby thing? And as for the kid, well, who's surprised anymore at that? The man is plain fucked up in the head.
He may write a good song every now and and then, but that's about the extent of it, you know? ??? :

 

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HUMONGOUS: is anyone in the Jackson clan "normal"?????

 

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I agree with you Tracksuit: Michael is a 12yo. Having said that, it is still inappropriate for ANY adult to have even platonic relations with a child. Sleepovers and stuff like that is a form of molestation. Even if that means your crawling in bed with a child fully clothed in pajamas it is still molestation.

It's time for Jacko to do some time and maybe get the psychiatric help he so obviously needs.

 

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hughd: Why would any FOOL sent there child over to spend the night at his house?

 

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gigantikok: [quote author=JohnTheHorse link=board=99;num=1069289136;start=0#8 date=11/20/03 at 09:06:02]I agree with you Tracksuit: Michael is a 12yo. Having said that, it is still inappropriate for ANY adult to have even platonic relations with a child. Sleepovers and stuff like that is a form of molestation. Even if that means your crawling in bed with a child fully clothed in pajamas it is still molestation.[/quote]
That is up to personal opinion. I think a non-sexual, platonic relationship between an adult and child is fine, especially with the parent's consent. Sleeping with the kids in the bed is going a bit far, but you have look at this from different perspectives. Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion doesn't mean they are fucked up in the head. MJ is fucked up in the head for other reasons. Anyway, I've found myself having meaningful relationships with children and hardly think I am "fucked up" or in need of "pyschiatric help". Jackson just, unfortunatley, takes it too far, but in his world he sees nothing wrong with it.

About the baby incident, he was merely holding the child up to show the crowd. The media took that story RIDICULOUSLY too far. Another case of the media blowing something way out of proportion for their own benefits. I think it was dangerous for him to hang his baby over the ledge, but I can understand why he did and not label him as a wacko for it.

In my opinion, I still don't think he's molested anyone. I think these are families that are trying to take advantage of his billions. I form this opinion because I don't even think Michael Jackson has the emotional maturity to molest children, let alone have sex with them. And frankly, he seems to have a good heart. Jackson has always come off to me as one of the world's only asexual beings. I wouldn't be surprised if he splits into two one day!

 

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Andrea: I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with sleeping in the same room as a child, but it depends largely on circumstances.
Since Michael Jackson has the facilities to sleep separately from the children then he should, but only because he is not their real or adoptive father. There is certainly nothing wrong with sleeping in the same room or bed as as one's own child.
Due to his fame and the scrutiny poured upon him he should be extra careful and vigilant. Unfortunately he does seem to be naive in this regard.
Would I let my child sleep over with a friend? Yes - of course.
Would I let my child sleep over in Neverland? No - why?

Because I don't trust him.

Andrea xxxx

 

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Tender: oh no thats all we need is two!
if he is asexual, then how does he have kids of his own? or did i miss something there?

no i dont see anything wrong with sleeping with a child while clothed.
i even did it a few times myself.
when the 7 yr old says i want my mommy... i cant sleep, blah blah blah,,,
mommy was long gone, so i layed down with the kid.
It did sort of buged me because he had been molested before, (part of the reason he was staying with me...) and his mind ran about as fast as he talked if you know what i mean.

as far as if he is guilty, i would think he may very well be innocent. obviously smart parents know better than to let their kids stay with him just because of the idea thats there. makes me wonder why the parents arent in troube for letting their kid stay with him? wouldnt family services frown on that? But the fact that he is rich, makes you wonder. Surely he isnt that stupid to actually do it ??? but who knows. i would like to see the whole thing go to trial, and have some proof. not pay off the kid to keep quiet.... i dont think that is right...

 

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gigantikok: [quote author=Tender link=board=99;num=1069289136;start=0#12 date=11/20/03 at 17:22:48]oh no thats all we need is two!
if he is asexual,    then how does he have kids of his own? or did i miss something there?
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Probably artificial insemination (sp?)...

 

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hawl: I thought this was a funny and sad editorial about the media's coverage of this and so many other "major stories" ( O.J., Kobe Bryant, etc. )-www.truthout.org/docs_03/112103A.shtml. While we're speaking of "emotional maturity", does anyone think the mass media currently have enough to cover this story ??? ? People often get so caught up in discussing whether the media are biased to the left, or to the right, that they forget to consider the decisions about which stories to emphasize or even cover at all. The next time people ask why 9-11 was such a surprise to so many, why Osama and his agenda was so unknown and/or ignored, shouldn't they remember how much detailed deep background they received day after day on O.J., "the world of Paula Barbieri", and so much other forgettable stuff? As with Kobe Bryant, this ongoing Jacko stuff should be sanely covered with the attitude that it is a news story, it is tragic for the people involved, but in a civilized society it is NOT A MAJOR STORY! Thank you for your time, I must now humorlessly check for breaking updates on new porn releases : 8) !

 

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tracksuitboy: You're absolutely right rrrrrr. It's easier to write about OJ, Jacko or some twat in a "reality" TV show than it is to investigate and report on serious subjects, so they don't bother. The problem is that we read all this junk. If we didn't read it, they wouldn't print it.

 

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Thumper_10x7_CA: Why do you think Jerry Springer and those stupid shows have been on for eternity? We, as a society, enjoy watching other humans at their lowest point. That way we don't feel so bad about ourselves.
(my opinion)

 

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str8_nnj: ...Jacko thought "Boyz2Men" was a delivery service.
OK....all's quite innocent, most people have a secret room with no windows off their bedroom for "sleep overs". (Wondering if Liz Taylor ever slept there... or any of his brothers for that matter. Do you think anyone else ever did?

 

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tracksuitboy: [quote author=hughd link=board=99;num=1069289136;start=0#9 date=11/20/03 at 15:17:32]Why would any FOOL sent there child over to spend the night at his house? [/quote]
So they can make an accusation against him and extort $10 million.

 

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HUMONGOUS: does anyone suspect that Michael Jackson may have a large penis? and perhaps should be a members of this board. with all the advice that is offered on here : how could he possibly go wrong ever again?