Jamie Bell & Ian Thorpe

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  1. Christiaan

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    Now that Jamie Bell is of legal age in the UK, is there anyone who has seen his package or possibly a sighting to know if he's a proper UK lad with a foreskin?

    ...and Ian Thorpe, my Gaydar goes bonkers when I see him. His whole laid back manor seems to indicate that, what ever his sexuality, he is absolutely comfortable in his skin. He did some under wear promotion in OZ, briefs and boxer briefs and I've just turned the room upside down but I can't find the jpg's anywhere. He seemed to have a reasonable package. Certainly, some one has seen him in the changing room where he trains or his mates from school. What do you think, is he cut or uncut.

    Inquiring minds want to know! :smile:
     
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    I guess a couple of my UK friends are going to have to give up their citizenship now since they obviously don't qualify for it under the "Christiaan Rule of Citizenship".

    Seems a mite bit more shallow than most.


     
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    HUH? I thought my English was fair for a Dutchman, but I don't understand the meaning of what you said beyond your obvious (even to me) desire to be rude and sarcastic. How unfortunate. :confused:


     
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    Your English (as is the case with most kind folks from the Netherlands) is superb. Would it be that one tenth of this American population could speak a second language at all.

    Please forgive any American 'rudeness' or sarcasm on the part of unthinking Americans. It's not all of us who'd not acknowledge your fine ability at speaking our native tongue.

    One of the many things I love about the Dutch is that invariably their English is superb.
     
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    Interesting concept. I always thought that it was OUR native tongue! :wink: There is a good reason why Microsoft offer an English(United States) and an English(British) option. :biggrin1:

    Very true, they normally speak much better English than, for example, their French counterparts. In fact they frequently speak better English than many British people! :mad:
     
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    He was alluding to your indelicate turn-of-phrase "a proper UK lad with a foreskin", which seems to imply that those in the UK who are circumcised are somehow "not proper UK lads".
     
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    Tell that to the folks in Topeka.

    It's my native tongue as well. I'm an Englishman by ancestry and by my given language.

    You mistake me for "other Americans". And with the current usage by some Brits of their own mother tongue I'd say some of us here on this side of that infamous pond have a better handle on it than those who hail from English soil.:rolleyes:

    So do some Americans.
     
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    I wouldn't dispute that at all (and my apologies for any perceived assumption)! Of course we should perhaps consider that there may now be three variants: British English, US English and US Presidential English. :wink:

    I have some friends whose hackles rise and routinely bite when they hear a word or phrase that is perceived to be US English. Unfortunately, one of the most common ones that they criticise is use of the word 'gotten'. I usually take great delight :biggrin1: in pointing out to them that, in this instance, US English is (technically) more correct than British English, since 'gotten' is Olde English, which has prevailed in the US, as opposed to in the UK where it has evolved into 'got'. :smile:
     
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    Yes Alex, this is exactly the point that I was raising.
     
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    Ugh! 'Presidential English'?? Saints preserve us. :rolleyes:

    No offense taken. However I do bristle when I think that the rest of the world thinks we all sound like Dubya.



    I have some friends whose hackles rise and routinely bite when they hear a word or phrase that is perceived to be US English. Unfortunately, one of the most common ones that they criticise is use of the word 'gotten'. I usually take great delight :biggrin1: in pointing out to them that, in this instance, US English is (technically) more correct than British English, since 'gotten' is Olde English, which has prevailed in the US, as opposed to in the UK where it has evolved into 'got'. :smile: [/quote]

    Glad you made the point about "gotten". We use it always here in N.E.

    It's a holdover the 17th century colonists.

    Also in several places in coastal Massachusetts we say "if you're looking for that house you'll find it in India Street". I believe the rest of the country says "on" in this case.

    The BBC did a wonderful series some years ago where the accent of coastal (Plymouth County, Massachusetts) was compared to East Anglia. Many of the phrases and inflections to the accent here in New England were indistinguishable from their English counterparts.
     
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    Flattery will get you everywhere, but I'm easy.:wink: Seriously, I think you are too generous. I guess the US is such a large country that except meeting Spanish speaking from the south of you or Quebecois French speaking on the north, you have no need. For us, it is required to study English in school because we largely realize that it is an English speaking world, replacing French from years past.
     
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    Ohhhh, now I understand. Thank you. That wasn't the meaning I wished to convey. By "proper" I was referring to the fact that babies in the UK are never routinely circumcised, the only exception being Jewish babies when they're 8 days old and Muslim boys a bit later in age on so that it will be an unforgettable experience. Both of these groups, if they're like their counterparts in the Netherlands, whilst being part of society, hold themselves apart from general society, never fully integrating.

    Here, circumcision is looked on as just a quaint religious habit of the Jews and Muslims, certainly nothing a Dutch boy would have done unless he had some horendous medical problem that required the op. Otherwise, it is more or less confined to the gay community in NL. I guess they think it is chic because they see it in American porn. But stop the random boy in NL or the UK and have him drop his kit and there's a 95% or better chance you'll see a foreskin on his penis.

    Sorry to offend those Brits who are cut, heck, your pensioner prince is one of them. :smile:
     
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    Yes, a longstanding European-nationalism-immigration problem. It doesn't have to be that way. In Canada, all peoples are part of Canadian society, regardless of colour, origin (or circumcision status). In my gym class showers and sports teams, we mixed all types together.

    That was my point. In Canada it is about 50/50 cut/uncut so you can never assume it about anyone - it seems almost as random as dicksize itself.

    Oh yeah... one more thing, Jamie Bell is cute!
     
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    There is no such thing as an english person speaking bad english, a bold statement i know, but hear me out..
    English is a language that is constantly evolving, the language was built out of many existing european toungues Latin Frankish, Germananic, Norse tongues and native celtic, depending on where you lived on the isles your english evolved differently, the evolution of English spoken by those in the north and east was more afected by Vikings and nothern celtic tribes than that of wales (where two languages now exist, one native and one welsh english). The english of the south coast greatly effected by Normon french ultimatley became the "official" english language due to the location of the capital at London. the country sat like this, with pockets of people speaking 'different' languages untill the start of the industrial revolution when mass population movment from rural locations to towns and cites threw these people together and forced english to evolve into what is now the common language. But localisms are never die, today the UK has the most varied use of the one language in europe, for such a small country there are so many different accents and such a varied use of local termanologys that (and i know this sounds silly) if a person from the midlands asked a baker in surrey for "6 white crusty cobs" he wouldn't know what he meant as the number of words for bread rolls alone is beyond comprehension! the Oxford dictionary adds new words i its pages every year that go from being local to national, Pukka and Chav to name but a few.
    So, you may be asking yourself "why the hell is this guy lecturing me about english", my point is this as english is a constnly evolving language NO ONE speaks it incoreclty whether British or American so you keep your 'gotten' and you shout it loud and proud! and if anyone gives you anymore grief you tell them to talk to me. (even if the don't listen, i'll probly waste a short part of there lives with this post) lol.

    (by the way, i have acknowledged the fact that this post contains many ironic uses of 'bad english' rubbish punctuation, grammar and spelling... but i don't care)
     
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    Absolutely true. Unfortunately, in the different continents, not always in the same direction. :rolleyes: If someone from the 16th century came back today then nobody would have a CLUE what they were talking about.

    Which is the problem. People who couldn't care less. Consequently everything descends to the lowest common denominator. We have now even got/gotten well-educated cretins saying "would of", "could of" and "should of" everywhere. Anyone that stupid deserves to be smacked in the face. :biggrin1: Language is great and should be respected, revered and celebrated in just the same way as a physical treasure.

    Communication skills are vitally important. In many areas of industry you are a danger if you cannot communicate clearly, accurately and effectively. The written and verbal communication skills of many kids coming out of university today is so poor that I have frequently just torn up their CVs and binned them, even though they may have all of the technical skills to do the job.
     
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    That would be the attempt to self impose the earthy Texas dialect/accent over the born New England Elite dialect/accent, trying to repeat the words of a long time expatriated Wyomingite.
     
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    When i said "i don't care" i was making a joke in refereance to the post on a whole, i thought it may be obvious that i have a deep passion for the preservation of the my native tongue (hence the lecture). It is a passion however not just to preserve the ever evolving 'standard oxford english', which i agree with you is degrading amongst new generations of students, but also to preserve the traditional quirky ways and words of the multitude of local english varients all over the world! this it what anoys me, as an English Teacher and indeed an Englishman i understand and agree that standard English be taught and used in correspondence, it is an essential skill. the original post however was not a critique of standard english it was a critique of all of those iggnorant people out there who think that the way they speak is the ONLY correct way. It is my opinion, and i'm sure you will agree, that if every english speaker on the planet spoke in standard english with nice posh olde english accents (pip pip and spiffy) than the world would be a very boring place. I apologise for the confusion, in future i will end my jokes with lol.
     
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