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will somebody help me out here...?

so the latest in the crossfire of #Metoo news is Jeffrey Epstein who was rubbing shoulders with liberal elites like the Clintons as well as Hollywood elite. There are pictures of this guy with Clinton AND Trump. His top female employee who apparently set up these liaisons with young girls can be seen in pictures front row at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

Now women are coming out saying they were sex slaves and sexually assaulted. my question is, how can you be paid, but also be a slave and assaulted? these women were CERTAINLY getting paid by this billionaire for their time and attention. So were they victims if they're getting paid to do this? when they come out to the media as being victimized, are they also sharing how much money they were paid to attend this guy's private resort? Is the media also interviewing these girls' parents who let them go off for a week at some billionaire's exotic island with Bill Clinton and other elites?

Further, there are MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY women whose sole existence and goal is to become trophy wives, gold diggers, landing and becoming sugar babies to millionaires, high paid pro athletes, (powerful) men with deep pockets so they can live a life of luxury. Is the media covering that story? Are these women victims or entrepreneurs?

So is CNN going to treat Epstein with equal scorn and scrutiny to the Clinton's affiliation as they are with Trump? Is Rachel Maddow going to break down in tears on air covering the Clinton's involvement with this guy? Is Don Lemon going to even mention this guy had ties to Clinton? Or are they going to use this as another political missle to take down Trump?

I do hope this gives the media a complete existential breakdown as they are forced to examine themselves with the same equal scrutiny that they cast on republican sides -- although i doubt they will.

All i'm saying is. There is a creepy billionaire who paid young girls to have sex apparently. He had both ties to Democrats and Republicans. Add to that, #metoo, where some women prior would have LOVED to spend a weekend on an island with Billionaires and the world's most powerful men, however.... now it's fashionable to be a victim. All i'm asking for is equal coverage of the truth and the reality for what it is.

you know? or am i misreading all of this?
 

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will somebody help me out here...?

so the latest in the crossfire of #Metoo news is Jeffrey Epstein who was rubbing shoulders with liberal elites like the Clintons as well as Hollywood elite. There are pictures of this guy with Clinton AND Trump. His top female employee who apparently set up these liaisons with young girls can be seen in pictures front row at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

Now women are coming out saying they were sex slaves and sexually assaulted. my question is, how can you be paid, but also be a slave and assaulted? these women were CERTAINLY getting paid by this billionaire for their time and attention. So were they victims if they're getting paid to do this? when they come out to the media as being victimized, are they also sharing how much money they were paid to attend this guy's private resort? Is the media also interviewing these girls' parents who let them go off for a week at some billionaire's exotic island with Bill Clinton and other elites?

Further, there are MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY women whose sole existence and goal is to become trophy wives, gold diggers, landing and becoming sugar babies to millionaires, high paid pro athletes, (powerful) men with deep pockets so they can live a life of luxury. Is the media covering that story? Are these women victims or entrepreneurs?

So is CNN going to treat Epstein with equal scorn and scrutiny to the Clinton's affiliation as they are with Trump? Is Rachel Maddow going to break down in tears on air covering the Clinton's involvement with this guy? Is Don Lemon going to even mention this guy had ties to Clinton? Or are they going to use this as another political missle to take down Trump?

I do hope this gives the media a complete existential breakdown as they are forced to examine themselves with the same equal scrutiny that they cast on republican sides -- although i doubt they will.

All i'm saying is. There is a creepy billionaire who paid young girls to have sex apparently. He had both ties to Democrats and Republicans. Add to that, #metoo, where some women prior would have LOVED to spend a weekend on an island with Billionaires and the world's most powerful men, however.... now it's fashionable to be a victim. All i'm asking for is equal coverage of the truth and the reality for what it is.

you know? or am i misreading all of this?
"now it's fashionable to be a victim"
They were CHILDREN.
 

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will somebody help me out here...?

so the latest in the crossfire of #Metoo news is Jeffrey Epstein who was rubbing shoulders with liberal elites like the Clintons as well as Hollywood elite. There are pictures of this guy with Clinton AND Trump. His top female employee who apparently set up these liaisons with young girls can be seen in pictures front row at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

Now women are coming out saying they were sex slaves and sexually assaulted. my question is, how can you be paid, but also be a slave and assaulted? these women were CERTAINLY getting paid by this billionaire for their time and attention. So were they victims if they're getting paid to do this? when they come out to the media as being victimized, are they also sharing how much money they were paid to attend this guy's private resort? Is the media also interviewing these girls' parents who let them go off for a week at some billionaire's exotic island with Bill Clinton and other elites?

Further, there are MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY women whose sole existence and goal is to become trophy wives, gold diggers, landing and becoming sugar babies to millionaires, high paid pro athletes, (powerful) men with deep pockets so they can live a life of luxury. Is the media covering that story? Are these women victims or entrepreneurs?

So is CNN going to treat Epstein with equal scorn and scrutiny to the Clinton's affiliation as they are with Trump? Is Rachel Maddow going to break down in tears on air covering the Clinton's involvement with this guy? Is Don Lemon going to even mention this guy had ties to Clinton? Or are they going to use this as another political missle to take down Trump?

I do hope this gives the media a complete existential breakdown as they are forced to examine themselves with the same equal scrutiny that they cast on republican sides -- although i doubt they will.

All i'm saying is. There is a creepy billionaire who paid young girls to have sex apparently. He had both ties to Democrats and Republicans. Add to that, #metoo, where some women prior would have LOVED to spend a weekend on an island with Billionaires and the world's most powerful men, however.... now it's fashionable to be a victim. All i'm asking for is equal coverage of the truth and the reality for what it is.

you know? or am i misreading all of this?
CHILDREN
 

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ok. so from your one word answer to my long intricate question.... your point is Clinton, Trump and these guys were with children. Do they go to jail? is the Press covering it?
Do you not have access to the internet????????????????????( I ignored the rest of your post as I couldn't get past the misogyny.)
 
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ok. so from your one word answer to my long intricate question.... your point is Clinton, Trump and these guys were with children. Do they go to jail? is the Press covering it?
It appears Epstein was, maybe we should investigate the others. Trump gets a pass no matter who he sleeps with apparently so there is little point sadly.
 

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but in today's society enabling is pretty much the same as committing the act. why would clinton and trump associate party with a known pedophile and what are the repercussions now?

It appears Epstein was, maybe we should investigate the others. Trump gets a pass no matter who he sleeps with apparently so there is little point sadly.
 

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but in today's society enabling is pretty much the same as committing the act. why would clinton and trump associate party with a known pedophile and what are the repercussions now?

You'll have to ask them. More important question is will Jeffrey Epstein pay the price that he should for sex trafficking of minors.
 

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interesting how Epstein is nowhere covered on CNN.com.

I just stated facts. You are projecting your political stigmas.

Do you not have access to the internet????????????????????( I ignored the rest of your post as I couldn't get past the misogyny.)
 

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interesting how Epstein is nowhere covered on CNN.com.

I just stated facts. You are projecting your political stigmas.
He's been all over the tv reporting on CNN, MSNBC and the major network news outlets. Even my local news has opened with it.

I suspect FOX is brushing over it choosing to show propaganda.
 

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A good article on Mr Epstein from today's NYT:
Jeffrey Epstein Was a Sex Offender. The Powerful Welcomed Him Anyway.

A strange thing happened when Jeffrey Epstein came back to New York City after being branded a sex offender: His reputation appeared to rise.

In 2010, the year after he got out of a Florida prison, Katie Couric and George Stephanopoulos dined at his Manhattan mansion with a British royal. The next year, Mr. Epstein was photographed at a “billionaire’s dinner” attended by tech titans like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. A page popped up on Harvard University’s website lauding his accomplishments, and superlative-filled news releases described his lofty ambitions as he dedicated $10 million to charitable causes.

Powerful female friends served as social guarantors: Peggy Siegal, a gatekeeper for A-list events, included him in movie screenings, and Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin, a champion of women’s health, maintained a friendship that some felt gave him credibility. Mr. Epstein put up a website showing Stephen Hawking and other luminaries at a science gathering he had organized.....
Jeffrey Epstein Was a Sex Offender. The Powerful Welcomed Him Anyway.
 

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interesting. i haven't seen that. i see a lot of border and ICE coverage. No epstein and clinton links.

He's been all over the tv reporting on CNN, MSNBC and the major network news outlets. Even my local news has opened with it.

I suspect FOX is brushing over it choosing to show propaganda.
 
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interesting how Epstein is nowhere covered on CNN.com.

I just stated facts. You are projecting your political stigmas.

You brought up political stigma in the original post. You assumed that all fingers are pointed at Trump and no on cares about what connection there may be with Bill Clinton. You are wrong, there is plenty of information coming out about both. However, it is important that the focus be on the person who is currently president rather than a former president who is essentially powerless at this point. Why would you ever treat and old wound before stopping the bleeding of a new one?

Your original post is extremely sexist and completely ignores the fact that the "women" who were getting paid were actually children. By your logic its okay to lure a child into a windowless van with the promise of candy and puppies as long as they get the candy and puppies.



you rush past the point i'm making. it's not on the front of CNN. nowhere to be found. You can google cnn martians and find links too if you like. but you're still missing my point.

Lots of things happen in the world on a daily basis and CNN attempts to report on it as much as possible. Not everything has to be on the front page, and I'm sure CNN understands that most people don't get their news by looking at the front page of their or any other news website. If there is a particular story you are interested in, you can easily find it and IndustrialSize just showed that.

You may be shocked to hear this, but Fox News doesn't have anything about Epstein on the front page either. They do have articles about Ed Sheeran, Prime day, a guy with the flesh eating virus, and a story about how CNN has bad ratings...
 

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i haven't read news where they say they were "children". i have read news that says "women" are coming forward. you're assuming that i'm assuming.

I'm going off what i've read.

it's just interesting to me that i see it on every other aggregate besides CNN. that's all.


You brought up political stigma in the original post. You assumed that all fingers are pointed at Trump and no on cares about what connection there may be with Bill Clinton. You are wrong, there is plenty of information coming out about both. However, it is important that the focus be on the person who is currently president rather than a former president who is essentially powerless at this point. Why would you ever treat and old wound before stopping the bleeding of a new one?

Your original post is extremely sexist and completely ignores the fact that the "women" who were getting paid were actually children. By your logic its okay to lure a child into a windowless van with the promise of candy and puppies as long as they get the candy and puppies.





Lots of things happen in the world on a daily basis and CNN attempts to report on it as much as possible. Not everything has to be on the front page, and I'm sure CNN understands that most people don't get their news by looking at the front page of their or any other news website. If there is a particular story you are interested in, you can easily find it and IndustrialSize just showed that.

You may be shocked to hear this, but Fox News doesn't have anything about Epstein on the front page either. They do have articles about Ed Sheeran, Prime day, a guy with the flesh eating virus, and a story about how CNN has bad ratings...
 

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i haven't read news where they say they were "children". i have read news that says "women" are coming forward. you're assuming that i'm assuming.

I'm going off what i've read.

Then you need to read a bit more before you start posting on this topic. The "women" were 15-16, possibly younger in some cases. They are women now, but at the time of the events they were children in the eyes of the law. Check out MSNBC, they have an article on the front page about Epstein. Or use the search function on any of the other web sites.
 
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interesting. i haven't seen that. i see a lot of border and ICE coverage. No epstein and clinton links.
Clintons the tip of the iceberg dude,this is going to get messy.Chelsea Handler figurehead of the #resistance is very friendly with Mr Epstein.The list is extensive and he is apparently singing in hope of a deal.
 
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right. that's why i'm flagging this now. i hope he does make a deal so he can then expose the hypocrisy of the establishment. all these people who were so outspoken about metoo were probably at his parties, taking donations from him, hanging out with him, etc...

just trying to expose the hypocrisy of it all. If he does make a deal, we will see names exposed who are high ranking politicians and media execs.

even after he was a known level 3 sex offender, he was still going to elite parties and rubbing elbows with the 1%.

ps. Chelsea Handler got her TV show deal because she was sleeping with /dating a head of the network. ha!

Clintons the tip of the iceberg dude,this is going to get messy.Chelsea Handler figurehead of the #resistance is very friendly with Mr Epstein.The list is extensive and he is apparently singing in hope of a deal.
 
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Have you ever been at a party with someone who later was found to have broken the law? Did it automatically mean that you were complicit, an accomplice, or benefiting from that persons actions?

Only one person is accused of anything at the moment, Epstein. Again, you should read about this topic before you starting talking about it.